The truth about the death of Barbaro

[glitterless]

People cried when Princess Diana died. How many of them knew her? It’s a human reaction. We get to “know” these people and animals via the media and they feel like a part of the family. Maybe some of us do need to get a life, but I can cry over a dead horse that I’ve never met in a heartbeat. That’s just me. Barbaro wasn’t the first famous animal that I’ve cried over and he probably won’t be the last. I’m not ashamed by that.

I don’t think that the author of the 2nd article has come face to face with many animals at all. Why can’t a horse be brave? Who refers to euthanasia as “killing”? This guy should get back to writing about inanimate objects like soccer balls or hockey pucks. He obviously knows nothing about the sport of horseracing.

[Coup_De_Des]

People still aren’t posting Daily Updates about Princess Diana… Nor are they still saying “good morning, good night Princess Diana”

I don’t think you can force a horse to run… my own tb has breeding up the wahzoo and incredibly talented, famous brothers but his trainer said that he had the speed but didn’t want to run and they couldn’t make him. I’m sure they had a fair go… but at the end of the day it’s a living, breathing, thinking animal and sometimes you just won’t see eye to eye.

Anyway. I think the Barbaro thing needs to be over. Done and dusted.

If you are still crying over his death you need to seek professional help.

[glitterless]

Who is posting daily updates about a dead horse? Sorry, I have no idea what you’re talking about. I thought that the journalist was referring to the number of people who seemed to be upset over Barbaro’s death – at the time of his death – and not a cult of people who still cry over him daily.

[PiedPiper]

@Coup De Des;2457738

People still aren’t posting Daily Updates about Princess Diana… Nor are they still saying “good morning, good night Princess Diana”

I don’t think you can force a horse to run… my own tb has breeding up the wahzoo and incredibly talented, famous brothers but his trainer said that he had the speed but didn’t want to run and they couldn’t make him. I’m sure they had a fair go… but at the end of the day it’s a living, breathing, thinking animal and sometimes you just won’t see eye to eye.

Anyway. I think the Barbaro thing needs to be over. Done and dusted.

If you are still crying over his death you need to seek professional help.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[JB]

@Cubs;2457483

No one is saying that horses don’t greatly contribute to the advancement of medicine. But I think it was just plain cruelty to keep Barbaro alive, rather, suffering, as long as he did–REGARDLESS OF THEIR MOTIVES. If he would have been any other horse, he would have been put down long before. It was Barbaro’s MISFORTURE that his owners were rich and was, from what I read, insured for so much.

This is just amazing. Did you actually see anything live about Barbaro when he was recovering? He was eating, bright eyed, dragging his people out for his daily grass, and so on. Hardly sounds like suffering to me. He was put down when he was clear that the latest round was likely going to do him in anyway and was clearly causing him problems. I take it that you’d rather see every horse with severe laminitis or founder put down too without trying to save them because it would be too cruel? Based on your comments, any injured or sick horse who has a chance of not making it, regardless, should just be put down right off the bat. If it’s your horse, go a head and make that decision, it’s your decision, but please don’t bash people who choose to try to save a horse if he has a chance at a decent life afterwards.

[eggbutt]

What’s amazing to me is Barbaro has been dead since JANUARY 29 and people are still digging up archived articles written the week after he died! Talk about getting a life and moving on! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: OP…take your own advice!!

[JSwan]

Amen. Reminded me of the death of Princess Diana. Sure - it’s sad. Really sad. But the maudlin hysteria cult of grief self flagellation hairshirt thing… a bit over the top.

I’m sure a sociologist has a name for that type of cultofgriefmania. I’d love to know what it is.

I was interested in his recovery - because I knew that vets were learning scads of stuff on treating ortho injuries. Not surprised he was put down, though.

Didn’t consider it an indictment of an industry, vets, the owners, or anything else. Horses live, they die. Sometimes quietly, sometimes in pain or sickness. Sometimes in front of others. Just like every living thing on the planet.

[QUOTE=Coup De Des;2457291]
I thought both those articles were hilarious.

I think the Barbaro Show needs to be well and truely over… People who still post on the internet about how teary they are whenever they read something about Barbaro…The people who continue to post about Barbaro every single day… FFS people! Light your candle for something else now. It’s OVER. Go mourn a family member or pet that you actually KNEW.[/QUOTE]

[Auventera_Two]

@glitterless;2457748

Who is posting daily updates about a dead horse? Sorry, I have no idea what you’re talking about. I thought that the journalist was referring to the number of people who seemed to be upset over Barbaro’s death – at the time of his death – and not a cult of people who still cry over him daily.

Check out the racing forum on this board. Trust me, there is still a ton of people here who cry into their cheerios every morning because of that horse.

My own horses died in a barn fire 3 1/2 years ago, and it was absolutely devestating. The most devestating, crushing pain I have ever felt. There was absolutely nothing like it that I’ve ever experienced. I felt suffocated with grief. I couldn’t eat or sleep for days.

But 1 month after the fire, I bought my Arab and I’ve never looked back since. Three months later we brought the daughter of the mare who’d died in the fire home, and I’ve not looked back since. I had to go on. I had to allow the memories of my deceased horses to exist, but not suffocate, and linger but not dictate.

I was there when our horses were babies, I helped raise them and break them and train them. I fed them and groomed them and did their groundwork. I had my mare for 10 years and showed her, did lessons, and she was a great friend of mine. I will never forget the day I saw that mare at a salebarn and my heart stopped. I knew I had to have her. We weren’t even there to buy a horse, but she HAD to come home with me. She was a horse of a lifetime. And then I was there the morning the smoke and fire was coming out the roof of the barn and we couldn’t do a damned thing to save them. I had to make the phone call to my mom and tell her that our horses were gone, in a fire, they didn’t make it, you’ve got to get here now. That’s the hardest call I ever made because I’d never in my life heard so much anguish in my mother’s voice. But we got through it and we moved on. You pull up the bootstraps and take another step toward life.

The owner of that boarding barn posts on this forum, and she’s a strong lady. She has a gorgeous mare that she rides now and she too picked up her pieces and carried on. I’m so proud of her. She’s built a lovely new barn and as far as I know, she didn’t let it destroy her. The horses she lost were ones she’d raised herself from her own mares, and her old sweet gelding who was her partner for 20 or whatever years.

So what I cannot understand is the people who never laid a finger on Barbaro, never saw him in person, and never had a single connection to him, but yet CANNOT let him go.

[the_sauce]

It kills me when people make the “racing is cruel” and “horses get abused at the track” and “I will never watch the big races (as a protest)” comments - EVERY area of the horse industry has abuse and mistreatment of horses. I’ve groomed $2500 Standardbred claimers who were treated better and were more sound than some Grand Prix jumpers my friend groomed. The racing industry has a bad rap (don’t get me wrong, after working with both SBs and TBs, LOTS of changes need to be made) but please know the same bad things happen everywhere in the equine world. Don’t be ignorant to it - it doesn’t help anyone.

[Tree]

Interesting take in that article. Unpopular yet contains some truths too. Racing is a sport. Horses are exploited. Money is made and lost. Not every horse will hold up to the demands of racing. Some people have the $$$$ to try everything Veterinary can offer. Just as can happen with even less financially supported efforts to save horses, more money spent won’t guarentee success.

Thanks for sharing the article link. It was a refreshing change from what I’ve read before.

Tree

[harvestmoon]

[QUOTE=Coup De Des;2457738]
People still aren’t posting Daily Updates about Princess Diana… Nor are they still saying “good morning, good night Princess Diana”[/QUOTE]

Perhaps they did several months after it happened. I’m sure after 10+ years, the Barbaro hubub will have died down.

Who knows.

But, frankly, if people still want to talk about Barbaro (or Princess Diana for that matter), let 'em. Whatever floats their boat.

[eggbutt]

@harvestmoon;2458417

But, frankly, if people still want to talk about Barbaro (or Princess Diana for that matter), let 'em. Whatever floats their boat.

BINGO!

Don’t visit the Racing forum and/or read the Barbaro thread if you are not interested on what is being posted. It’s called “tolerance for others who don’t need your permission or approval to have their thoughts/opinions/emotions and live their lives”.

Every couple of weeks there seems to be several posters who have the need to impose their will and thoughts on others…to them I say, Get over it and move on and leave others, who are not bothering you in the slightest, alone.

[hitchinmygetalong]

If we are not welcome to post our opinions about Barbaro and his fate on the never-ending thread on the Racing forum, perhaps you who feel compelled to tell us that might leave THIS thread to us.

Thank you.

p.s. I never, ever, for one second, thought Barbaro would survive. Every new “happy happy joy joy” headline was painful as it reminded me that the inevitable was going to be a very difficult experience for the public, and that racing would, once again, take it on the chin.

p. p. s. I never, ever, ever thought the horse was being kept alive for monetary purposes, either. I admire the Jackson’s tremendously, and I’m sure it broke their hearts to say, “Let’s do it.”

[ddashaq]

Hitchinmygetalong and Auventura Two, those were awesome posts.

AT, I am so sorry you had to go through that. I cannot even imagine.

[eggbutt]

@Auventera Two;2457936

So what I cannot understand is the people who never laid a finger on Barbaro, never saw him in person, and never had a single connection to him, but yet CANNOT let him go.

But, why do YOU have to understand it? Why do YOU care that other people have not let their experience go? Why haven’t YOU moved on from posting regular complaints chastising those who have not moved on? Why do YOU persist in even looking at any thread regarding Barbaro if not to antagonize others?

[fourhorses]

Is there some change in the astrological balance – I’ve noticed a plethora of Barbaro posts. Why? Is all I have to ask. You can do whatever you like I suppose, unless it envolves the abuse of small animals and selling illegal substances to children, but I too wonder why the hang up on Barbaro (didn’t get the hang up on Princess Di either, but maybe that’s just me).
People calling him “Barbaro the Great”, saying he was a messenger from heaven, etc. …isn’t that a bit much? Can one see why, what with that sort of thing going on, ANY thread on Barbaro brings out comments about people being crazy?
Is there some big “death” conspiracy now? Will Barbaro be the next JFK?
Sorry for being flippant – it’s just that I saw it as a sad thing that happened to a nice, not great yet mind you – he really hadn’t done that much in his career – racehorse. Well, that’s a shame, and I really wanted a TC winner and was pulling for him to beat the odds in recovery, but not candle lighting for him – certainly not now.

[eggbutt]

Fourhorses, I hear you…there’s a thread on the Racing forum that’s over a year old now. It’s still alive and well and most choose to ignore it or read it and some continue to post on it. It is obviously bothering some for some reason but it truly is alive and well and doesn’t seem to be going away any time soon. So what? Many of the latest new threads may be popping up because of the Preakness and all the coverage Barbaro received last week.

It’s threads such as this one where the OP dragged up year old articles to begin her(?) tirade that really begin to irritate me and cause me to get on a soapbox about why others care so much that others still care so much.

[Auventera_Two]

@eggbutt;2458740

It’s threads such as this one where the OP dragged up year old articles to begin her(?) tirade that really begin to irritate me and cause me to get on a soapbox about why others care so much that others still care so much.

And why exactly do you care that we care that they care so much? Doesn’t seem to be any of your business, now does it?

P.S. - Eggbutt, I still have your nasty PMs in my inbox from the Barbaro fiasco. I deleted almost everything, but for some reason 3 of yours are still there, along with some from a few other people. For someone who wants people to just leave other people alone, you sure don’t hesitate to dish out the threats and nasties on the private forum.

fourhorses - So yes, I see what you mean, this whole Barbaro thing just brought out the ugly side of some people.

[eggbutt]

Boy, that was an intelligent response. Leave it alone why can’t you?

[Auventera_Two]

When the non-Barbaro worshippers tried to post on the Barbaro thread, they got either warned by mods or got their eyes scratched out by the worshippers. So why don’t you just allow the non-worshippers to voice opinions on this thread? I think most everybody respected the worshippers enough to get the heck off your thread and let you have at it. So do the same.