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The truth about the death of Barbaro

Racing
#41

I continue the Barbaro thread on the racing forum due to the extremely high number of requests I receive to do so. I (obviously) now only post things related to Barbaro, such as the fund for Laminitius Research and how to hep raise money for that, updates from the Jackson’s in regards to related Barbaro topics, etc.
The fact that any horse touched so many lives isn’t news.
The fact that this one did, and from his death so many others may have a chance to be saved, is.

Why show so much bitterness about something that can do so much good in our equine world? So what if posters indicate they have a void because of him? Who cares if folks want to say a prayer or light a candle for him? He has singlehandedly opened the eyes of thousands who only came to know him through his horrific journey. Thank God they did, as it’s because of those folks so many horses have been saved throught the rescues the have been developed, the money that has been raised and the education that has been shared.

I thank each and every one of those unknowns that say “Good Morning” and “Good Night” and “I Miss you Barbaro”.

They, one day, could be saving a TB I bred and I once loved.

#42

[QUOTE=Auventera Two;2458755]
And why exactly do you care that we care that they care so much? Doesn’t seem to be any of your business, now does it?[/QUOTE]

And why do you care that they care that you care that they care? :lol: Sorry, could not resist.

Anyway, I don’t care. :wink: If you want to discuss why people are still harping on Barbaro, go right ahead. I was just stating my views, like everyone else. :slight_smile:

#43

:lol: Okay, now I think we’re just wasting bandwidth. :winkgrin:

#44

A group of “Friends of Barbaro” bought two nice drafts out of a kill pen in memory of Barbaro. We are still working on getthing them used to being ridden and having their feet handled, but that is something really good that came out of caring about Barbaro.

I figure that people who have grieved so much for Barbaro may in part be grieving for other things lost in their lives. It may be doing them some good to have a way to get all of that out of their systems. So it doesn’t bother me that people are still posting their thoughts. If we can see something good come from something so tragic, it gives us all a chance to heal in spirit.

What I don’t like is for Barbaro’s tragedy to be taken up as a banner to try to end the sport of racing. Fix the problems, sure. Research the problems before writing articles about them, absolutely. Then write articles about how things can be improved, responsibly.

Ouch! I just fell off my soapbox. That’s what I get for standing on it until the boards get weak! :wink:

#45

You could take your own advice.:wink:

FWIW, I don’t care who cares about whether or not other people care. :yes:

#46

rest in peice-- poor horse cant

#47

Uhhh it’s Laminitis not Laminitius.

If you are going to support something I think it is important to spell it correctly :slight_smile:

Regards,

#48

Sheesh - whatever happened to “To each his own” or “Different Strokes for different folks?”…For me, I don’t get so much out of reading someone’s blog copied and pasted here on a twice daily basis, but who cares? I am just one out of an almost 30,000 member community. If people still enjoy reading about Barbaro, then wonderful. It isn’t very hard for me just to skip over the thread over on the racing forum. But as Matryoshka said, (good post btw, Matry) don’t go using Barbaro as your scapegoat for your “Racing Is Cruel” slogan. My horse got a compound fracture above his hock while frolicking in a pristine pasture - does that mean that letting horses out to pasture is cruel too? Now, the one thing I WILL agree with the author of the article is that it does bother me that Barbaro has received so much attention when others just as brave and courageous - LOTF, Charismatic, etc - did not. Just my thoughts…

#49

I can’t say I’ve posted here (or anywhere else) about Barbaro much, but I see nothing wrong with those of us who still think about him. It certainly isn’t hurting anyone.

I followed Barbaro’s story closely in part because during his struggle, my own Thoroughbred was fighting for his life. My horse spent time in the horspital here in Montana while Barbaro was in New Bolton. (My vet is even named Dr. Richardson!:slight_smile: ) Caring for Reuben every day, not knowing if he would get better or not, asking over and over, “Should we keep fighting, or is it time to stop?”–all of these things are lonely tasks. It helped to know that other people were feeling them, too. I had to put Reuben down on December 15, and six weeks later Barbaro, too, was euthanized.

I can’t tell you how many people have told me, “I didn’t know why you were trying so hard to save some horse, but this whole Barbaro thing has helped me understand.” No, not everyone gets it. But Barbaro gave a lot of people insight into the horse-human bond and the idea that horses have individual personalities, just as people do. It helped people understand that horses are not interchangeable like a motorcycle or a car. What’s so bad about that? :slight_smile:

#50

[QUOTE=Procella;2456875]
this is why I will never go to a horse race, or watch the Kentucky Derby or any of the big races on TV -[/QUOTE]

Which makes you especially ignorant about the whole subject.

#51

What irritates me is some folks who still weep and light candles over the loss of Barbaro are shallow and illogical. For example, here is part of a post regarding the tragic accident and death of Mending Fences. The majority expressed their horror but get a load of this one:

Not to sound unfeeling, but the important thing is that both jocks are okay AND riding again…

This same poster still cries and has nightmares over Barbaro. Not to sound unfeeling BUT his jockey was uninjured and isn’t that all that matters (according to her)?

Honestly, the whole Barbaro thing could earn someone a PhD in Sociology if he/she would take the time to write a thesis. :lol:

Equally baffling is the fact nobody on the racing forum expressed any concern or even questioned the charge that the “Barbaro Stakes” was “fixed”. The thread degenerated into a slam of the “liberal press” (the root of all evil) by focusing on MM’s rather embarrasing show of emotion after Chelokee’s “win”. Sure what the press did was sleazy but isn’t race fixing even more sleazy? But no, lets sweep that under the rug, close ranks and point the finger elsewhere. :cool:

#52

Ok ive got to say it. I dont get the freaking barbaro thread. Its not new or exclusive informatnion. Its all comming from the Tim Wolley board and his website. Why do we need EVERY freaking update from that site posted over here? Its compiled very nicely over there and all the crazy “i say goodmorning to barbaro” people are over there. Oh but of course it needs to be posted over here too…lord only knows why…

#53

I agree. It’s a waste of space. If the 3 people that read that thread want the information they can bloody well go find it for themselves. You said yourself it’s on some Tim Wolley board. Google is your friend people.

Rcloisonne… Awesome post. Well put. Nice ownage in there too. Freebird, nice… some underhanded ownage in there. Nicely done… Irish… Good good, I concurr wholeheartedly!

Matryoshka… I don’t understand why FOB brought Draft horses over At Risk Thoroughbreds… But hey… whatever works, any horse life saved is OK in my book…

p.s. I notice Cubs has up and done a runner on this thread, prefering instead to skite about why owners should be having a go at doing their own chiropractic adjustments.

#54

I do believe that VB only made a typo. She does, indeed, know how to spell laminitis.

Here’s the celebrity death that everyone is stuck on that I don’t get: Anna Nicole Smith. I mean, really? Do we need to have a movie made about her?? Seriously…who really cares??

And did anyone else notice the author of the article said people should go to the barn and take a “cantor” on their horse? Cantor? What’s that? :lol:

#55

Jiminy crickets, this is weird. I never have enough time to read everything I want to read on these forums, so I can’t for the life of me understand why a thread I wouldn’t care to read or think is wasting space would be such an irritant. It’s up to the administrator as to what wastes space. THIS thread sure wouldn’t be doing that, now, would it? Not when we all have so many opinions to express. You don’t get it about Barbaro? Move on. You don’t like racing? Move on – there are other horse sports/forums/interests to explore. Why on earth do people have to pick, pick, pick at things that they dislike or disagree with when there are so many other things to do.

Or maybe not, which is why this thread is three pages long and the instigator is now nowhere to be seen. Bet they are having fun with let’s watch these guys fight. :eek: :eek: :eek:

#56

[QUOTE=rcloisonne;2459963]

Equally baffling is the fact nobody on the racing forum expressed any concern or even questioned the charge that the “Barbaro Stakes” was “fixed”. The thread degenerated into a slam of the “liberal press” (the root of all evil) by focusing on MM’s rather embarrasing show of emotion after Chelokee’s “win”. Sure what the press did was sleazy but isn’t race fixing even more sleazy? But no, lets sweep that under the rug, close ranks and point the finger elsewhere. :cool:[/QUOTE]

BWHAHAHAHAHA!!! that’s a new one!!! Yea it was fixed! the racing officials should have put a gun to trainer’s heads to make them put their horses in it. Blasted evil Matz should have NEVER won that race with such a superior horse. BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I would LOVE to see even a shread of evidence for this conspiracy.

#57

Hmm I just read the thread about Chelokee winning the Barbaro stakes, and I am assuming thats the thread you are talking about that “bashed the liberal press”. No one said a thing about the press being liberal. I happen to agree that the press was milking Michael for more emotion and it was rather morbid of them to zoom in on his face in the hopes of seeing a tear roll down his cheek. Reminds me of when Go For Wand Broke down in the BC Distaff and the media zoomed in on her poor trainers eyeballs. Ick.

#58

[QUOTE=LyndaPellitteri31;2460566]
I would LOVE to see even a shread of evidence for this conspiracy.[/QUOTE]
Glad you find it amusing but you’ll have to ask the racing forum’s very own Glimmerglass since it was he who posted the following innuendo:

As for the Barbaro Stakes if anyone thinks that Chelokee wasn’t intentionally given a cake walk - and guaranteed win - based upon the entires they are kidding themselves. A defacto walk over staged for the media.

http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=73513&page=29

Sorta like entering Salinero and Anky in a training level dressage class. At least most dressage judges would come down hard on something like that. In racing, apparently just about everyone smiles and heaps kudos and attaboys on the practice. :rolleyes:

#59

[quote: Coup De Des] It’s a waste of space. If the 3 people that read that thread want the information they can bloody well go find it for themselves. You said yourself it’s on some Tim Wolley board. Google is your friend people. [quote]

Give me a break.

I have always acknowledged that Tim Woolley is where I get quite a bit of my information. Not all of it, but some of it. With permission, I might add. So, what’s the problem?

#60

What I really dont get is why anyone cares if some people still care about Barbaro. What does it hurt them. They dont have to read threads regarding him or anything to do with him. If some people want to carry on his memory by doing good things for other horses such as rescuing slaughter bound horses or horses in bad situations as far as I am concerned (and being involved in rescue work on a day to day basis) its all for the better. The fact that not all these people are true horse people and some may be over the top is besides the point. Taking interest or grief and turning it into something positive is something that all of us could do better at, be it horses, the homeless or cancer research. Not to mention the huge amounts of money now being put to research for laminitis and more up to date vet equipment at hospitals is something that benefits all horse owners. The nastiness of this thread really bothers me. Civil discussion benefits all. By the way, for pete’s sake do we REALLY have to jump all over people for typos. We have all made them. Finally to the OP thanks for starting a nasty trainwreck thread, something this discussion board could use alot less of.

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