The Utopia of Tack Lockers

I am going to be putting in new tack lockers for my boarders this year!

I have not had a problem with stealing in the past at my previous barn, but I don’t want to start with it at my new place, so I am going to put in full tack lockers in my boarder’s tack room.

Having said that, I have never had tack lockers before. :confused:
I have looked up some different designs, and they seem pretty limiting for space inside. So, hence the title…if I am going to put these in, I want to offer the ideal tack locker, since as a result of putting in these lockers, I will no longer allow tack trunks in the tack room (I don’t allow them in the aisle to begin with, and we won’t have room for them after this change), and no ‘common ground’ hangers or saddle stands. I will require all equipment be placed in the locker, brought back and forth by the owner if they don’t want it here, or stored in their trailer if it is one that stays on our farm…so no ‘loose’ stuff pretty much. Is that too much to ask?? I don’t think so, as long as I provide sufficient storage, right?

I have also looked at full size versus half sized, seems that everyone hates half-sized, right? I know I would.

I want to offer enough room for 1-2 saddles, a grooming tote, boots/helmet, saddle pads, bridles, misc. hanging stuff. I will have shelving for blankets to be put up, so don’t need to accommodate that in the tack lockers.

Any thoughts, “I wish my tack locker had…” ideas, or advice? Things I need to make sure I put into it? Ventilation?

I am having a cabinet maker build them for me. I will need 8.

As a boarder, would you feel comfortable with just a tack locker? Would you want more ‘open’ shelving that all (8) boarders have access to in addition to the locker? Blankets will be appropriately stored (by me) above the tack lockers, so they will be in the ‘open’, but if not used, will be cleaned and put into a blanket bag for storage on high shelving.

Thanks in advance COTH!

My favorite tack locker was a large tall one almost like a closet. It was wide enough for a saddle and hanging things next to the saddle, tall enough for two saddles, storage below the saddles, and a shelf above the saddles for more storage. There was also enough clearance to hang baskets on the inside of the door and still be able to close the door without hitting the saddles. Those were my absolute favorites. I’ve seen people build them in to the room with actual doors…I’ve also seen them built as freestanding units with just a wood panel for a door.

Ideally you could have tack lockers that are wide enough for saddles.

What I will put in mine, once we get that far, if we ever do, is leaving space to put a saddle dolly in there.
This way clients can take the dolly to groom and saddle their horse, then put it all back in the closet and have more hangers and other in there for other supplies:

https://www.google.com/search?q=rolling+saddle+cart&client=safari&rls=en&biw=1129&bih=589&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CC0QsARqFQoTCKao97vW0ccCFUkGkgodb9gMcA

Maybe on one side in the back one of those 12" x 12", of several heights, with adjustable shelves used in walking closets, some are wire, some wood.
Maybe place to put one saddle rack, the kind that you hang on fences, higher up, for the saddle that is not in use.

Awesome! Thanks guys! You mean enough room to have one of these roll into it, Bluey? http://www.sstack.com/Stable_RacksOrganizers_Saddle-Racks-Carts-Stands/Easy-Up-Show-Cart-with-Saddle-Rack/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=paid_search&utm_campaign=paid_search_google_pla&scid=scplp518419&gclid=Cj0KEQjw04qvBRC6vfKG2Pi0_8gBEiQAAJq0vYkw19AKLwsgR90svrarwsMPmqwLUKOGVJbmollMbiUaAqKn8P8HAQ

I love lockers- you’re doing a smart thing!

I have 3 x 3 x 8’ white steel lockers made by Janus International, now owned by US Door. Can’t find them online but they make them… open locker, swing door that uses a cylinder lock made by Chateau. One shelf at 6’ creates an ‘attic’ for blanket, bucket, and rarely-used stuff storage. Lockers bolt together for strength and you can fit 6 lockers perfectly in a 12 x 12’ stall with a 6’ aisle between two rows of lockers. They are a PITA to put together, but they are very, very sturdy, good looking, and help insure peace on earth. Big time. Each boarder has that much space ONLY and they all the the same space.

Only problem is you need a locker for each and every stall, and regardless of how people beg, they need to change lockers if they change barns. I have bent this rule and it is a big hassle when you let someone have an extra locker in one area because they like to tack up there, say… but when you need that locker for a new boarder, it’s like asking someone to give up their firstborn. Don’t do it.

You will need to add saddle racks and bridle racks in each locker. I put two saddle racks on the back wall and one bridle rack down each side, total of… 10 bridle hooks I think. I use these: pricey (and freight is ridiculous) but indestructible and saddle racks remove in a moment if boarder only wants one. Mount them high-ish so feed barrels can go underneath on the floor of the locker.

http://www.royalwireequine.com/main-frame-iii-with-4-saddle-racks/
buy 4-saddle racks then cut them in half horizontally to create two saddle racks per locker. Mount them into the wall through the back of the locker.

http://www.royalwireequine.com/bridle-racks/
Cut each 10 hook rack in half so 5 hooks go down each side of the locker, again rather high to create better floor space.

The last thing I do is put a Closetmaid wire basket set on each door.
http://www.amazon.com/Clorox-8002-Wire-Wall-Rack2-Tier/dp/B002P90P86

This thing beautifully holds bottles and brushes. I didn’t want to drill holes in the locker doors so I secured the basket unit by using horizontal PVC pipe that I threaded across the baskets, then the PVC slipped in the rolled steel channel that is the edge of the door. I used small sheet metal screws from the backside of the door through that rolled channel into the PVC.

Look in Pinterest for tack lockers- there are a lot of very nice units. While I think mine were expensive, you can certainly spend more even on very nice wooden lockers, or European saddle caddies, etc. I figure about $500 apiece for mine, less assembly labor. It’s a dad or ranch hand project… I even did some myself but it takes two people because the panels are big, and you might accidentally cut your head off with one until you get the first unit stood up and helping support the next unit. BTW you can get common walls but I didn’t- went for the complete box as it was stronger.

Last thing is the cylinder locks you get from Chateau. They come with three keys, so you ALWAYS keep one for the barn manager. If I had it to do again, I would charge $25 deposit on the lock, because I rarely get both keys back, so then I really need to throw that lock away. At least if you had the $25 deposit you could buy a new lock when the one you gave out becomes worthless because you don’t get both keys back. Seems silly but over time… you spend a lot on locks. Also, the locks self-destruct about 5% of the time. Save the carcasses and Chateau may give you some extras. The cylinders die and you have to drill them out… not often, but it does happen.

I just love mine because they were relatively easy to do and they work beautifully. Boarders like them too- they do amazing things inside of them to arrange all their things… but you have to have a rule just like high school of no permanent holes or damage to the locker. In fact, school locker supplies with magnets like tiny baskets, mirrors, and dry erase boards work great in these tack lockers too.

Good luck!

Since you are adding these in to an existing tack room, seems the size and shape will be partially dictated by the dimensions of the space you are putting them in. So a first step might be to look at that space and lay out some possible combos and see how those work. Like say you have a 12x12 tack room and ran 4 on each side, they could be 3’ wide (actual would be less due to walls and such but just using round numbers), and depth would kind of depend on how tight you want things to be (doors have to open and people have to pass through). Just giving that as an example – your actual room will really influence what you can do.

I’ve had tack lockers at a couple of barns where I boarded. My favorite size and shape were stand alone ones that were full height (7’?) and I’d guess maybe 3’x3’ or maybe a little smaller. Those were a good size but they weren’t built in a way to keep rodents out so that was a BIG problem – I took the time and effort to reinforce mine to keep critters out and NEVER left the door open so mine was critter free. It did have a screened vent for ventilation.

A couple of other places had the locker built into a corner of the stall, so it was triangular shaped. Full size door on front so maybe 3’ wide by 7’ tall (guessing), but since it was a triangle, that gave you half the space of a square one. Worked ok unless you had way too much stuff like me! I don’t recall vents on those, but the one place they didn’t have a top on the locker, so that provided ventilation – too much as you got all the barn dust. Dumb.

Another place I looked at did some really nice armoires in their tack room. Gal that had designed these to sell boarded there so I think they did a trade or something. I actually have one of her other armoires - they are nice. I’ll try to find a picture of that place as I really liked the size and having double doors on the front instead of a big single door works nicely to take less space in the aisle.

I don’t have one yet, but have been looking at a lot of designs. I think 24" wide x24" deep would be ok. Bigger would be better! I would need a single saddle rack, a place for 4-5 saddle pads, hooks for bridles, girth, extra halter, lead, longe line, room for grooming bag, a bucket of wash supplies, helmet, boots (horse and people) and grooming rags. A little space for tack cleaning supplies and things like fly spray concentrate, clippers, liniment and a few tools that aren’t used every day would be needed too.

Flexible storage is key. I would maybe provide a basic layout with saddle rack(s), a row of hooks, two halter/bridle racks, a shelf above the saddle, and maybe a second below and a wire basket for small items. Then you can let boarders add their own storage solutions - with approval if they require screwing/drilling.

i would try to include some ventilation if possible. A section of wire mesh or similar at the top and bottom of the doors would help a lot.

[QUOTE=mountainhorse;8295161]
Awesome! Thanks guys! You mean enough room to have one of these roll into it, Bluey? http://www.sstack.com/Stable_RacksOrganizers_Saddle-Racks-Carts-Stands/Easy-Up-Show-Cart-with-Saddle-Rack/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=paid_search&utm_campaign=paid_search_google_pla&scid=scplp518419&gclid=Cj0KEQjw04qvBRC6vfKG2Pi0_8gBEiQAAJq0vYkw19AKLwsgR90svrarwsMPmqwLUKOGVJbmollMbiUaAqKn8P8HAQ[/QUOTE]

Yes, something like that would be fine.

The way I have been measuring, you need at least 2 1/2’ wide and deep, would be better 3’ x 3’, because inside dimensions may be smaller by several inches.

For English saddles, smaller would work, but if you have some using western saddles, then you need that bit more.

I was first thinking of putting those three saddles saddle racks in there, then came up with the idea of the rolling ones.
The reason of portable stuff, not built into the cabinets is that so you can adjust to what you need, add more self standing cabinets, take some out, rolling or standing saddle racks, etc.

Now, hooks on the walls, maybe doors, that makes sense and those can be permanent, or make them where they can be moved also.

I am all for portable, because have seen our needs change so much and then it is easy to “remodel” when you only have to shuffle stuff around without needing to tear down things first.
Lockers I have seen were in the barn itself or in the tack room.

Here are also some built in tack rooms in stalls, but those should really be for bigger stalls, you don’t want to take space from the horse and make the stalls too small.
The last picture, I think that aisle is too small to get saddles and stuff out of those lockers, would be better to have more space in front of them.:

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Mine: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10205717639035222.1073741867.1082814537&type=1&l=fe46ba2484

If you end up doing smaller lockers with open shelves, put the shelves low and the lockers up. I have a small tack locker (1 saddle, grooming box, and boots is about all that fits) and it’s on the bottom. I literally have to get on my knees to get my saddle out. It’s not a big deal, but hey–if you’re gonna dream, dream big!

Personally, I like the tall ones as well. I like being able to hang my bridle and halter without them draping onto the bottom of the locker. I like being able to stack up a storage box or two at the bottom for medical stuff, grooming stuff that isn’t every day use, and would like to have room for at least two saddles. I prefer to keep my saddle pads in my own tack locker so they don’t get lost/mixed up/borrowed. But a lot of people leave their tack lockers open with their pad hanging over the door to dry. So maybe it would make sense to have a rack in the tack locker to hang used pads to dry on?

[QUOTE=mountainhorse;8295161]
Awesome! Thanks guys! You mean enough room to have one of these roll into it, Bluey? http://www.sstack.com/Stable_RacksOrganizers_Saddle-Racks-Carts-Stands/Easy-Up-Show-Cart-with-Saddle-Rack/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=paid_search&utm_campaign=paid_search_google_pla&scid=scplp518419&gclid=Cj0KEQjw04qvBRC6vfKG2Pi0_8gBEiQAAJq0vYkw19AKLwsgR90svrarwsMPmqwLUKOGVJbmollMbiUaAqKn8P8HAQ[/QUOTE]

Something to consider with the roll out saddle racks is will riders would roll the cart to their stall or tack up area for ease of saddle, grooming etc. but leave them in the aisle while they are riding. It would be easy enough to roll it into the stall but I’m guessing some would leave it in the aisle.

I use one myself in my own barn but I do leave it in the aisle while saddling the horse. They are handy but my first though was of boarders rolling their carts around the tack room, barn, stalls and tack up areas I could see it creating a bit of congestion.

Mine are 4’x8’ with a full sheet of T-111 as a door. They are probably 4-5’ deep as well. I only have 3 boarders though and built the barn with that as part of the plan. I put in 1 saddle rack and 2 bridle racks with 2 shelves above the saddle rack. There is plenty of room for a tack trunk or several covered totes. They also have room to store blankets on top of their locker as well.

My dad built me what has become my absolutely beloved tack cabinet about two years ago. Though it is ENORMOUS (think a large refrigerator+) my BO loves it since it keeps everything contained and plays well with both of our type A, organize all the things, personalities.

While I love them dearly, a word of warning for the deep doors - the cabinet can’t sit directly next to a wall and have the doors open completely. It has to sit as far away from the wall as the doors are deep to function properly. Something I didn’t take into account while building, but hasn’t hindered my use of it thus far.

The pull out bridle rack (I collect headgear…) is invaluable and has made the saddle pad racks much easier to access. We recently installed another pull out on the other side with velcro to hang sport boots and my whip holder. We moved the english saddle rack slightly to the left to accommodate the boots, but aside from that, this has been incredibly versatile and holds just about everything I can think of, and I’m a hoarder.

I have ventilation slots in the top that are just 1/2" wide and maybe 1-2’ long that are screened off with a little frame we made so I don’t get rats/large bugs. I did have issues with a previous cabinet getting moldy, so wanted several vents in this one. For good measure, I keep two small DampRids filled - one to the right of my western saddle rack on the “floor” and one in the door. Happy to measure things or take more pictures for anyone who wants dimensions.

PS: If you have curious barn cats, keep a spare set of keys to your boarders’ lockers. Ask me how I know! :eek:

Do your boarders ride english or western? The western saddles need a bit more room.