Thinking of Quitting Teaching Riding Lessons

I’ve been mulling this over for a while and am giving myself until the end of the year to decide. I work full time at a regular job and teach on the side.

I think I’m a bit burned-out from the drama with certain people and the lying and cheating that goes on in the professional horse world. I’ve personally been cheated out of $1K worth of training, judging and commission fees over the last year. Been blindsided a couple of times by people I thought were honest and bad-mouthed by those I’ve had to drop as students due to their disruptive behavior at the farm.

I do love to teach people who want to learn and I’ve been told by some very wonderful and knowledgeable professionals that I have a gift for it. This is a passion for me but I’m feeling like maybe I don’t have the stomach for the darker stuff that happens.

So, when do you know?

I feel you completely, Escada. I also teach (essentially full time) and train, but I have a 9-5 “day job” as well. Between the two, I’m almost never home. I have quit teaching a couple of times, for the very reasons you mention. It’s just not worth the anxiety, insult and heartbreak sometimes. But I’ll tell you something - it is a passion and I have never been able to quit for good. I even went so far as to do no teaching or training for a year and got my amateur status back. (A long time ago.) That only lasted a few years then I was back to teaching. I love it too much. Also, in times when I’ve been between jobs, it really helped to keep a roof over my head. Maybe instead of thinking of quitting, you think about taking a hiatus for an unspecified period of time. If you find you miss it, you can always go back to teaching. If you find you don’t miss it at all and you are enjoying your horses more, stay quit! :slight_smile:

What I have learned to do is to not let the drama and lying/cheating get to me. Yeah, I’ve been ripped off more than once, but I hold my head high and go on because I know that I am honest and I cannot control what anyone else thinks or says or does.

Best of luck with your decision.

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Thx so much, Mondo. :slight_smile: VERY good words!

I taught kids’ lessons for years, along with a day job and teaching therapeutic riding at a local program. When I had the chance to change jobs and go full time, I took it, and stopped teaching private lessons. I didn’t even have to think twice about the decision. I love teaching - in the moment. I was going crazy with the scheduling, communicating with parents, organizing arena time, making sure I had the right horses to challenge everyone, etc etc. I was never part of the competitive scene so the downsides you mention weren’t really part of my world; is that an option for you - step away from the competitive side of things, with the people you don’t respect, and target your lesson business to the once-a-week kids or returning adults who ride for the joy of it?

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I quit teaching all but 2 clients. I was actually just discussing it with someone today - the amount of crap you have to put up with just to help people ride their horses better is ridiculous. The amount of gossip, talking behind your back, resistance to actually paying the bill, and picking apart your riding by people who can barely ride their own horses at all three gaits …Who needs it?

I don’t need to convince the amateur hobby riding ladies who might take 1 lesson a month and will be at first level forever that my training product is good while they pick apart how I ride someone’s remedial ottb who is throwing a tanty and tell everyone who will listen their negative opinion. The people I need to (and have) convinced are judges so that my investment horses get resumes, and trainers in top programs who are telling their clients whether or not to spend significant sums on my training product.

I would much rather spend my riding minutes making up a high quality, valuable show horse for someone who I know will be decent to me than fixing people’s remedial problems while the lower level rail birds natter away.

So, I quit teaching all but 2 clients and I am turning a lovely warmblood mare into an A quality, $$$$ show horse for a client who has become one of my best friends. If It’s not going to be that level of quality on both the owner and the equine front, I’d quite honestly rather stay home and watch Netflix with the dogs.

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Yes, the backbiting gets me. My roots are in a horse circle where we helped each other and did anything we could to help our colleagues be successful.

It’s disheartening to watch other people ride pushbutton horses and get show results on horses that they’ve never - and could never - train to that level. And then they have a following since they get blue ribbons as the only rider in an 3d level class. It’s actually a little scary that these people are teaching.

Sometimes I think riding students are like crows. The shiniest thing before them gets their attention.

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You may find, if you look around, that scenario is played in most social situations.
Gossipy is the way humans, “some” humans are.
Even in forums we reflect that.
Some people are honest and straightforward.
Those would not lower themselves to negative gossip.
Some seem to have a mean streak that gets the best of them at times.
In our public life, we have to learn to handle that, as you are right now.

I think that a good way to manage those instances are to leave, as you are wondering, if the annoyance is more than the pleasure of interacting.
Or, as others have indicated, work on our end, try to ignore when possible.
Push back where you need to clear the air.
Above all, as several have advised, stay above it all.
Be the honest person you are and move on from unwarranted criticism.

If it works for you, why not try to, as several have suggested, “vet” your students and only have those that you are happy teaching?
We can’t change others, we can try to adapt on our end.

Horses depend on us teaching others how to properly converse with them.
Hope you find a way thru this so you can keep teaching.

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What you describe is, unfortunately, the most common reason for quitting teaching. It’s the non-teaching aspects that drive people out of the profession.

It’s okay to take a break and think about it. You at least have an advantage over public school teachers, you can choose who you teach. I wish I had a better answer, but I’m in the same boat. I’m already lesson planning, which I enjoy, but I don’t look forward to certain principals, parents, etc. when school starts again.

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Escada, Bluey has some good advice here.

I haven’t been a riding instructor, but I -have- been a church choir director. No connection, you say? Ah, but yes. Both are a situation in which you attempt to lead people to what one hopes is a mutually agreed destination. I took a bunch of non-singers and made them into a pretty good choir, which was essentially me giving a series of vocal lessons for free, while dealing with all of the BS of the gossip, back-biting, and everyone who thinks they have a better idea than you. That sort of thing goes with being a leader. It is part and parcel of the job.

But there’s good and bad in everything. A lot depends on what you focus on. If there’s bad in front of you, smile and nod. If it’s not in front of you try not to worry about it, although I know it can be difficult. If it has to be dealt with, deal with it. They don’t like it? Guess what? They are not the director, they are not the riding instructor. This is not to say be high-handed. Be fair, explain your decisions if asked, buut don’t forget you have a spine.

If you reach a point where you decide it’s really not worth it, then that may be the right decision and as others have said, you can always go back. As far as the choir, for other reasons entirely, I left the whole church, so haven’t directed in decades. Don’t miss the church, but like the good musical memories.

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I “vet” my students. I don’t care where they are in their riding development but they must have enthusiasm and willingness to try. If I find myself in a situation with an argumentative student, I “fire” them. I don’t mind questions. I do mind someone questioning my validity as a teacher. Either you believe what I say and are willing to try or find another teacher.

This just happened to me with a new student. Her horse was obviously ouchy and unable to give her best effort. I suggested the rider either till up her arena to soften it or put shoes on the horse. :“I don’t believe in shoes”, she tells me.

Okey-dokey then. We’re done. I advocate for the horse first and am not willing to work with someone who cannot/will not try to do the right thing for the horse.

Teaching is a passion for me but I won’t waste my time with difficult students. If those were the only students that came my way, I’d quit too!

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Thanks to everyone for their wonderful advice and words. Really good thoughts from everyone and it is much appreciated!

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The good news, OP, is that you don’t need to teach in order to put groceries in your fridge. You can afford to pick what you like and leave the rest.

I have a few things that help me teach and stay serene about it.

  1. I love seeing progress and helping to create it. Any change, improvement and understanding is good, even if no one ever goes to a horse show.

  2. I remember that there is a customer service element to this job. I charge fairly, I do what can be done with what we have-- the horse, the rider, the facility, the time and the money they want to spend.

  3. I don’t worry about what I can’t control. I’ll tell the rider what I think they’d need in order to accomplish their goal if we aren’t already doing it. But they get to choose to follow through or not. And I have even less control over what other people say about me. I try to give them nothing bad to report, but that’s all I can do.

IME, the things that help me most in this job are a) having been a consumer of horse training for a long time; and b) having had jobs where professionalism was required.

The bottom line is that this is a job: Do it for fair pay or don’t do it. Ask for what you want and get it, or don’t do it. But don’t do it and feel victimized by your students or gossips or whatever.

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Really good words. I’ve slowed down lessons because of the heat here so I’m enjoying the break. Could be I’m enjoying it a bit too much to go back to teaching a lot. :wink:

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I walked away a year ago and have never looked back. The physical and mental stress was slowly killing me. I do still teach occasionally, and we still have the farm, which hubby runs full time, but I’m happy to be out of it. The horseworld isn’t the one I grew up in, and I’m just not equipped to do what is required.

Went back to my career and am as as happy as I’ve been in a decade.

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As MVP said: you don’t HAVE to teach, so fire every one who does not make your day better!

Put out the word that you are pearing down, looking for a drama free environment.

then prune the herd.

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You guys are awesome! Lots of great ideas and advice.

So, how do you vet your students?

BTW, just pruned a “herd member”. Evidently clinic-hopping and then arguing with me because the other clinician said something different was acceptable to her. Not me. :wink:

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How to vet students-- a great question!

  1. The trick, really, is to give them the kind of lesson that you will (and stand firmly enough in what you do and how you do it) that they decide you are a good fit for them or not. No consumer likes or understands being “fired”; that seems like a huge insult and categorically wrong to them. So let them choose your services or not, like the consumer they are.

I can’t tell from your post what really went wrong and, more to the point, who done you wrong. So I’ll suggest two more points.

  1. Separate in your mind the lyin’, cheatin’, back-talkin’, whathaveyou amateurs/clients/students from the professionals who do all that to you. I’m in the same Lack of Professionalism/Consideration Sandwich as you-- I’m no more a fan of horse care pros who treat me badly than I am of students (and really, their non-horsey parents) who get it wrong. But! These are different groups and they have nothing to do with one another. So you don’t drag your resentment toward one group into your interaction with the other, On the contrary, I have found it useful to insist on being perhaps the only honest and professional horse trainer they meet. I don’t give a shit who else makes more money lying about a horse’s suitability, soundness or the rider’s ability, I won’t do it. I’ll always be nice, supportive, helpful and gentle when I have to deliver hard news to a student. But I won’t co-sign something that’s not OK for the horse or safe for the rider. Remember that these people-- unlike the pros you make you unhappy— don’t know what they don’t know. There’s a difference between intentional- and unintentional drama.

  2. Is your skin too thin? I think you have to ask yourself if you have a part in getting butt-hurt. After all, one man’s drama is another man’s A-OK; and one man’s “discussion” is another man’s “fight”; one man’s “Yes, but why do I have to learn to do X or Y?” is another man’s disrespect. See what I mean?

  3. Make sure you get paid. How TF is this not happening and people owe you money? Always have a contract. Everyone signs it, it is discussed first. I don’t know how/why pros like show managers owe you, but that’s separate from students. My lessons are payable at time of service. If they want a series, they buy that up front. If they become a regular client after a series of lessons, I might agree to bill them at the end of the month. But that credit with me is earned, not offered or taken. I always get paid, just as I do in White Collar World. Ain’t no way I’m getting ripped off in a professional situation. And I take responsibility for insuring that.

To reiterate what I said in my first post. This is a customer service job. You can suggest, say, to a rider who pays for a lesson and then spends the hour telling you why you are wrong that, really, she’s wasting her money with you and ought to spend it with the guru she’s quoting chapter and verse. But you don’t get to take that so personally that you lose your cool and get mad at her or, worse, get personal back. If you wouldn’t do that at your “real job,” you don’t get to do that in your small business where your behavior is your brand. What this really means is that you have to spend a lot of time practicing letting client behavior roll off your back. It gets easier. The more I remind myself that I can suggest and advise but that that’s where my control stops, the happier I am with whatever outcome we get. If the student takes my advise and does well, I feel appreciated and helpful and competent. If they don’t, that’s their prerogative and it’s also their outcome.

I guess I haven’t answered your question about choosing students… but the way it came out, there kind of is an answer in there.

First, any problem with students has a great deal to do with you/us as teachers. We set our standards. IME, if I keep firm and clear standards, there’s a lot of self-selection and the people who want what I have find me and stay; those who don’t gracefully come in- and out of my orbit. No one is getting hurt feelings so far as I can tell.

Second, I think I’d always give myself more than one lesson to tell what’s going on. Sometimes ascertaining fit doesn’t get done in the first lesson where you guys are each learning one another’s experience and vocabulary. But the second or third lesson, I can tell how much a student can absorb and progress within the way I teach. I’m not the teacher for everyone, but I’m great for those who mesh with my teaching style. I want my riders to think and practice on their own, so I can see more about a student by comparing them between lessons than I can just within one lesson.

Third, no matter what happens, I leave my door open and I try to make no damning criticisms of the horse or rider— even if the match is quite bad. I want that rider to feel no shame or hesitation in coming back to me for help, even if I had to deliver some bad news about something like their horse not being sound enough or trained enough to do the job. Whether or not they ever use me again, I want them to have a good feeling and a good experience to tell someone else.

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Thx, mvp :slight_smile: