What?? :eek:
hmm, i’ve seen that sort of rig before, but it’s usually to work on a horse that can’t stand on three feet, not just for regular farrier work.
hmmm… I think I want my farrier considering how my horse stands on and weights each foot… when they’re vertical 
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Wow. I would never force my horse to do that; especially when he is able bodied to stand and have his shoes done. Nothing like having each of your limbs restrained and tied to a table.
My farrier is more concerned about QUALITY than quantity.
Not to mention, he always evaluates how the horse is standing on their own feet, as that is a very important part of evaluating when you shoe a horse. And how the shoe looks once it’s on.
They’re not cows!
I imagine it would take some practice to learn to get things balanced and nailed on straight working at a 90* angle.
I have seen a team work on diagonal feet simultaneously. But unless you’re working with really rank stock I don’t see how that rig would be a great advantage.
Well, this is how I did it with one broodmare that was too lame to stand for long, taught her to lay down for me.
She seemed to enjoy it, never put up a fuss over it:
WHY would you do this to an able bodied and trained horse?
Looking through his photos - it appears that this is how he shoes ALL horses?
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Blackfoot-Horseshoeing/185923214760988?sk=photos_stream
I agree - they aren’t cattle. I would rather train my horse to pick up its feet - rather than subject it to the stress and risk of injury (notice the scrambling before they have that horse tied down) that this short cut creates.
I also wonder how you balance a foot when working on it in that position.
A lot of pictures of horses tied on up his rig - but not much of the finished work. (here is one “finished work” - heels already beyond the branches of the shoe? 
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But he is also doing a fair bit of “unique” draft and mule shoeing.
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Well, this is how I did it with one broodmare that was too lame to stand for long, taught her to lay down for me.
She seemed to enjoy it, never put up a fuss over it:[/QUOTE]
There’s a hell of a lot of difference. I imagine your horse laid down and stayed down willingly.
Tying the horse to a table and flipping it horizontal so it’s easier and faster? That’s disrespectful to the horse.
After seeing the horse scramble and bang around and then tie his hoofs that was enough for me. To me that is kind of barbaric. How the neck would you know you got angles right and it is is balanced. :eek:
I could see this being useful for a horse with soundness issues or a horse that could not possibly ever be shoed the normal way, but I’ve taught 2 older stallions to pick up their feet easily, safely, and fairly quickly and they have not had a problem since then.
read about this 20 years ago in a Western Horseman magazine.
It’s not the way for therapeutic shoeing, but when you have a string of trail horses, etc, why not.
The advantage is that 2 guys can work on a horse at the same time and it’s easier on the farriers backs.
Sometimes it is all about quantity.
But I guess we have fullfilled the week’s quota for pearl clutching.
Unfortunately I no longer have that issue, but the story was rather interesting. As I recall it, the horses got used to it really quickly (no different than a horse being put on a operating table) and some enjoy a little nap during their pedicure.
I didn’t see anything that alarmed me in the video. The horse quickly calmed down.
The horse quickly gave in. Not how I’d want my horses shoeing.
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The horse quickly gave in. Not how I’d want my horses shoeing.[/QUOTE]
It’s not how you go about having to trim and shoe 1 or two horses…
calming down or giving in, same effect, it stopped struggling.
Would I have my horse done this way?
Not likely.
Is it anything to get upset about?
Hardly.
I assume if this was a good idea, more farriers would do it. And they don’t, so there must be a reason.
Also, why in the hell do you ever NEED two people to work on the same horse? If both people are equally able to do the work, why can’t one do one horse and one do another, each working at the same time? Does this not result in the same amount of “time saved”? I mean, I had drilled into my head from the time I was a kid that you didn’t even have two separate people wrap legs on the same horse because it is next to impossible to have someone imitate the exact same pressure, technique, etc of the other person. I have to assume this is the same for farrier work–so you have horses walking around out there that had two feet done by one person and two by another?
I don’t care if its ranch horses, trail horses, etc–they all deserve the same basic foot care, and that is not it.
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I assume if this was a good idea, more farriers would do it. And they don’t, so there must be a reason.
Also, why in the hell do you ever NEED two people to work on the same horse? If both people are equally able to do the work, why can’t one do one horse and one do another, each working at the same time? Does this not result in the same amount of “time saved”? I mean, I had drilled into my head from the time I was a kid that you didn’t even have two separate people wrap legs on the same horse because it is next to impossible to have someone imitate the exact same pressure, technique, etc of the other person. I have to assume this is the same for farrier work–so you have horses walking around out there that had two feet done by one person and two by another?
I don’t care if its ranch horses, trail horses, etc–they all deserve the same basic foot care, and that is not it.[/QUOTE]
I am going out on a limb here:
Assuming they have a large number of horses to do in a short time, doing one the usual way, you put strain on your back. I don’t think you can get through as many the traditional way as you can this way. And since you got them off their feet anyhow, why not have one do the front and one the back?! You don’t have two people work on wrapping one horse because it’s the difference between sides vs front/back…not that I would be sure to do it the same left vs right myself.
I think most of us never had to deal with more than a couple of horses, the thought of having close to 100 horses to trim and shoe is pretty alien.
I think most farriers don’t have the table (lack of demand) thus it’s not available, but for some (farms with oldsters) it could be a welcome option…
No comment!
I wonder what they charge per horse? If they do 30+ a day this way, I would hope that they only charge $25/horse. And you get what you pay for.
That belly band behind the ribs (and over the sheath?) could not have been good for the horse. Yes, I guess any horse can endure anthing for 14 minutes, but why should they have to?
If you read down in the comments, one of the guys has had some surgeries and injuries that would prevent him from shoeing horses the normal way. With the machine, he can keep working.
I wonder what this guy does to his wife or more girl friend… I would never allow, I bet that horse has to be ace the next time & now runs from farriers & even vets… Stupid & man handled…
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I wonder what this guy does to his wife or more girl friend… [/QUOTE]
Good Lord.
Really?! You’ll break your pearls!
