THIS..... This is what will kill eventing

[albytb]

@blue_heron

The post that really gets me is the cropped photos of Boyd’s horses and this fitter who only evangelizes for Stubben saddles was supposedly “sickened.” By Boyd’s horses. Who is sponsored by Stubben

I’m surprised this lady doesn’t have her own thread yet. I appreciate her knowledge and her want to educate people but…

[Maude]

I think it is the uneducated that are the ones that are appalled by this, those of us that are true horsemen would realize that as you carried on and your horse felt wrong, you would pull up. These people are the ones that just like to go out and pet their horses and feed them cookies.

[Maude]

Agreed. TrollsThat probably can’t ride their way out of a paper bag. Calvin probably never realized exactly what happened. But when the horse got up, he assumed the horse was fine. I’m sure he would have pulled up, had the horse felt off in any way. Any good horseman would.

[Ottbaxel]

I agree, Emily trying to stay on her horse is not at all comparable to Phantom completely faceplanting. Did she yank on his mouth a bit and jostle around on his back? Maybe! But I’d be way less concerned about Barry than a horse that went all the way down to his stomach with his head hitting the ground. Not a fair comparison

[Maude]

Ding ding ding

[Maude]

They aren’t worth the clicks.

[Maude]

There is an explanation of the vet’s behavior I believe I read it on facebook.The video is a short clip, but doesn’t explain what happened.Prior to the clip.

[Ghazzu]

@Maude

There is an explanation of the vet’s behavior I believe I read it on facebook.The video is a short clip, but doesn’t explain what happened.Prior to the clip.

there’s not any excuse for what he did, but it ought not to have been a capital offense.

[kt]

@albytb

@blue_heron

The post that really gets me is the cropped photos of Boyd’s horses and this fitter who only evangelizes for Stubben saddles was supposedly “sickened.” By Boyd’s horses. Who is sponsored by Stubben

I’m surprised this lady doesn’t have her own thread yet. I appreciate her knowledge and her want to educate people but…

If the person being mentioned here has the initials AA, she has been discussed on COTH multiple times. The last time I saw her name brought up here, it was implied that essentially Stubben itself has tried to distance itself from her. If that tells you anything lol…

[MNEventer]

Omg, that’s amazing!

[Heinz_57]

@Maude

I think it is the uneducated that are the ones that are appalled by this, those of us that are true horsemen would realize that as you carried on and your horse felt wrong, you would pull up. These people are the ones that just like to go out and pet their horses and feed them cookies.

I think you are the only troll here.

[Old_Mac_Donald]

I know, right. Hence the disclaimer.

[Live_Wire]

zips up flame suit

@Texarkana

My opinion as someone who was kind of sort of on the inside all weekend is that there was so little drama at this year’s event that the arm chair quarterbacks had to create some.

Agreed.

@GraceLikeRain

I think it is unrealistic for me, who thinks 3’ is a wall to assess how I personally would have responded in this level of competition with that amount of pressure and more than a decade less of life experience.

I wish more people were humble enough to have this perspective.

@alyssaequestrian

it’s the only chance for the veterinary and official team to get a closer look at the horse.

This is wildly untrue.

@Texarkana

But where do we draw the line between maintaining optics and letting the professionals do their jobs and make the judgement?

I couldn’t have said this any better. I’ve been trying to find the right combination of words to explain how I feel about the direction eventing is going, and this is it. I really thought the course designers did a bang up job this year maintaining the integrity of the sport while keeping safety at the forefront, but there is no way to take the risk out of the sport altogether.

@MHM

I am concerned that there was no measure in place to check on that horse’s welfare before he continued

There are active measures in place everywhere in the role as event officials.

@beowulf

I didn’t get a chance to watch any XC this weekend, I got called away. But… wasn’t this one of the safest 5* weekends in a long time…?

The majority of the field finished.

I watched the video of the fall. It doesn’t meet the requirements of a MR, so I understand why he was not pulled.

Thank you for stating this! It’s a shame that such a successful weekend for eventing is being overlooked.

@coffeehag

At some point you have to trust that the rider, who is spending hours on hours with this horse, knows what they’re doing and that the vets inspecting them do, too.

YES.

I had no issue with him continuing on. I thought Phanty was one of the better conditioned horses in the field, jogged up well on Sunday, and laid down one of the best stadium rounds of the day.

A few things:

CB has been with Phanty since 2022 - someone can fact check me but I believe they have completed every event they’ve entered together - that’s an incredibly positive statistic. Phanty is bold and brave, kudos to CB for having the tact to pilot him around, I couldn’t. Phanty was fresh around the whole course. He got himself into trouble and CB listened to him when he said he wanted to keep going - made blaringly obvious in the next half of the course while CB was trying to pull his e-brake all the way around. Phanty’s ears were pricked the entire time and that is truly a horse that will jump anything you put in front of him - to a fault because that’s what happened at the Cove. It was well within CB’s right to decide his horse was okay to continue on. I’m glad they finished and I bet Phanty will be an even better cross country horse for it.

Edited for typos.

[Old_Mac_Donald]

@Incantation

IMO he should had been checked on by TPTB since his rider did not check on him.

How do you know the horse wasn’t checked by the rider’s “private treatment vet” overnight?

[blue_heron]

It’s not her. I know who you are referencing. If you can believe it there’s more than one.

[Incantation]

I would hope he was checked when got back to the barn. IMO he should have been held on course and checked over before continuing.

[Ghazzu]

@Live_Wire

I really thought the course designers did a bang up job this year maintaining the integrity of the sport while keeping safety at the forefront, but there is no way to take the risk out of the sport altogether.

Definitely.

[Maude]

I had to laugh at this. Apparently anyone that disagrees with someone on here is a troll

[Heinz_57]

Sorry, you were serious? You honestly think that only uneducated people and no “true horseman” would think that the rider didn’t handle this situation well?

Plenty of extremely educated and experienced people here (and elsewhere) do not think this was handled very well. I think that if the rider had taken the appropriate consideration to do some cursory checks of his horse before galloping off again, almost NO ONE would be even talking about this.

[enjoytheride]

Yes, I read that the horse was an unhandled wild mustang who was a danger and the vet wanted to geld it before it hurt someone. Kicking it in the head and choking it out did not need to be included. The suicide was a an awful shame.