thoughts on the Stubben Freeedom bridle

http://www.stuebben.com/start.php?lg=gbgb&su=products-bridles-snaffle-bridles-trensenzaum-2500-freedom&id=1995&top=2&top2=8

Besides just thinking it is plain ugly, I don’t like the buckle on the jaw, or the wide crank pad…

Is it really that anatomically correct?

I don’t care for it. I feel like they are trying to make their version of a micklem, but I’m not sure they got there, and I really don’t like the buckles on the outside (can’t remember what they are called, but the ones that slide into a lot in the leather…)

It is kind of ugly…but if horses like it, I would use it. I’d like to try it on my horse have tosee the price lol

Looks like some sort of hybrid of the Micklem and the D’yon bridles. Countrywood, be sure to report back when you try one! :wink:

just bumping this up as i have been lucky enough to have been given one to trial and will be using it tonight for the first time :slight_smile:

ok so it wasnt a game changer on the 4yo BUT he is very very good in the contact, supple, soft, easy to ride to the hand etc, he is just that way in his body and mind.

i LOVED the fit, zero pressure could run my hand easily round under the entire bridle and he went very well in it, easy to adjust to tailor the fit to each individual horse too.

i would like to try it on something a bit tricky in the contact really as could see that it may make a big difference on a tense,tight sort…my boy wasnt really the ideal candidate as so easy going about the hand!

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But it’s still basically a crank noseband with a flash, just with some cut-outs that keep less pressure off the poll?

IME, a plain snaffle bridle doesn’t put that much pressure on the poll; it’s when you add the tight noseband and/or the flash that the pressure increases.

i am looking forward to more renditions of this bridle. i like the idea and IMHO it is much better leather quality and design than the micklem or PS sweden. what i’d like to see instead is a removable/separate browband and the point of connection where the headstall meets the cheek piece (or the strap that holds the bit) more on an incline and more direct (aka maybe held together by a circular ring like you see on the newer flash nosebands so the straps have the freedom to move/be adjusted).

Stubben great on changing the field with innovative products.

I would try this bridle on my Selle, but first I would remove or swop out the crank, then I would take off the flash Anyhow I like the width and form of the crank back . Is it padded leather? It seems a forgiving, stretchy leather also.

The browband perches off the forehead like a driving bridle, when I look at the whole bridle it has many similar characteristics of a driving bridle. sans blinders lol.

It looks like a unibody style, where actually is the bridle getting its support from?
The pictures I have seen are only thumbnails so hard to see that way.

Anyone know how much it costs? Is a double in the works?
Cant wait to read more!

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i am looking forward to more renditions of this bridle. i like the idea and IMHO it is much better leather quality and design than the micklem or PS sweden. what i’d like to see instead is a removable/separate browband and the point of connection where the headstall meets the cheek piece (or the strap that holds the bit) more on an incline and more direct (aka maybe held together by a circular ring like you see on the newer flash nosebands so the straps have the freedom to move/be adjusted).[/QUOTE]

yes that is why I called this a driving bridle so to speak. But when you look at a driving bridle, the stiff browband connects back into the blinders which in turn connect to the cheek pieces with a diagonal bit of leather, very much similar to The Freedom Bridle.
I have used driving bridles many years, with/without blinders but the similarity is probably a design process to provide that weightless experience and happy experience for the horse.

Driving bridles weigh a ton and a half.

I would use a Micklem bridle over this one. I just don’t think I could put anything that ugly on my horse’s pretty head. I don’t see where this would work any better than a Micklem.

The Stubben is a lot prettier than the D’yon!
http://www.dyon.be/gb/double-bridles/124-bride-difference.html

It wouldn’t work for my Princess. Big ole crank would push her flabby cheeks into her teeth. I wish the Micklem would fit her but neither the Cob or the horse size is quite right. I am currently (finally) having success with no noseband at all.

Susan

another thread about bridles got me thinking about this quirky bridle design again… does anyone have any non-stubben pictures of this bridle? AKA images of this bridle out in the field, doing an honest man’s day of hard work?

I am more excited about the Fairfax Performance Bridle, but they are in very limited release and have not gotten my hands on one yet. Only available in the UK and hopefully going to be released in the US later this year.

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I am more excited about the Fairfax Performance Bridle, but they are in very limited release and have not gotten my hands on one yet. Only available in the UK and hopefully going to be released in the US later this year.[/QUOTE]
you can’t say these things without pictures!! i can never find any good pictures of fairfax anything.

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you can’t say these things without pictures!! i can never find any good pictures of fairfax anything.[/QUOTE]

http://www.thegaitpost.com/wp-content/uploads/the-fairfax-performance-bridle.4.png

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http://www.thegaitpost.com/wp-content/uploads/the-fairfax-performance-bridle.4.png

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Now that’s an idea! I like it… but I kind of don’t. It seems a lot of these bridles focus on keeping the jaw shut. For every horse I meet that goes okay in a Micklem I meet 5 horses that HATE pressure on their nose - especially below the bit. It seems to me the longer you make the bridle the more pressure ends up on the nose, no?

But wait – why hasn’t anyone tried the disks higher up - I’m talking right near where the buckles are near the eye where the padding of the crown piece stops. It doesn’t seem like a revolutionary idea to me that if you allowed some sort of pivot-point the pressure on the bit would be much less – or is that wrong on a physics level? An anchor point up there to me would make less poll pressure happen, I think.

Maybe I should just draw my imaginary perfect bridle and bring it to whoever these people are bringing their ideas to…

doesn’t look like the side strap attached to the bit is accomplishing much. The angle of the strap on the Micklem, together with the clip, transfer pressure into the bridle, off the corners of mouth, bars, edges of tongue.

I suggest if you have some time, read and watch the videos:

http://www.fairfaxsaddles.com/index.php/bridles/bridle-testing-and-design#bridle-pressure-zones

I can not wait to try it out on my horse!