Long and low and stretchy is a thing. But it’s a stage on the way to more. If you have long and low and forward, you can start to have connection from back to front, which is the basis for almost everything.
It all starts with long and low, yes. But that’s the foundation for the work.
Did everyone see she has yet another dead horse posted on her social media? And she is posing with the dead horse, again.
At least this horse was 20, and not super young. But I have yet to see one of her horses die older…
More tragedy porn.
Absolutely. It can be harmful if not done correctly and it’s definitely not something you do all the time.
She said her horse chooses to move that way in liberty so she rides him that way. This is after Celeste posted about the same horse that they did “pillar one” constantly. Unclear if Celeste worked on him herself or just instructed the client.
I don’t know. Watching a horse move with his head down by his knees constantly is concerning to me. Any one posture constantly doesn’t seem healthy…
It looks like she has set her FB to privacy, I havent been able to see it lately.
Oh vomit on her instagram latest death pic. What is WRONG with her?! FFS!
Her other instagram video thing is pretty funny; that girl has spent a LOT of money on her face, she looks very different from the Manolo clinic.
Re the nose in the dirt thing, that is classic Will Faerber of Art2Ride, another liar/made up bonafides/grifter.
His star is pretty much set these days. Karen took the two horses to Oregon. We never see Lip the PRE and once in a while we see Karen on that poor lovely Q, who after five? years is now The Best She Has Ever Been and actually trots around and even canters.
God save horses from these asshats.
I can still see her page and I’m not a Facebook friend of hers.
I could care less about what she looks like or what she does to her face honestly. Although there seems to be a certain aesthetic that she’s going for and does seem very concerned with image. 
I wonder if she’s advocating for this nose in the dirt stuff too or if the account I mentioned picked that up from Art2ride? I know there was hashtags and references to the balance through movement method but not sure what else is influencing them. Who knows but yep it’s not good! I just watched an old art2ride video, nose definitely below the knees most of the time and just such cringe riding 
And this takes a lot of skill!
Is anyone else noticing how it is being recommended a lot on the ECVM groups?
Now that I have the background on Celeste she’s obviously cray cray. But apparently it’s not always that obvious on her outward facing presentation. Perfectly sane friend saw Celeste linked somewhere online with a FB horse acquaintance friend respected, and friend wanted to argue that Celeste seemed perfectly reasonable and interesting. Celeste isn’t loose in Canada as far as I know, so it wasn’t an argument I needed to win. Friend in general can be swayed by online presence that hits current buzzwords.
Yep and kissing spine. It’s recommended for everything under the sun in a biomechanics/body work group
I had a trainer (who I don’t work with) recommend her to me. I just politely said there are others I would prefer to work with…
It used to be Art2Ride was the go-to whack job people suggested for kissing spines. Now I just see BTMM.
I think this is how it goes. New thing is discovered that we don’t fully understand (KS, ECVM, etc), some charlatan uses it as a means to get followers because the horse doesn’t have to actually improve under their program. After all, it has XYZ issue that’s hard to diagnose or treat, but we SWEAR this guru has made a huuuuuuuge difference!
(I actually have had Art2Ride suggested to me for my KS horse by a close horse friend. Navigating that minefield wasn’t easy, but I think she finally saw my face when she brought it up the 5th time and stopped.)
Here in Ontario I’ve seen at least 2 people advertising themselves as nerve release practitioners with BTMM, and there was a big clinic that included saddle fit, bodywork, etc and Celeste was featured as one of the clinicians. I have no idea how popular the clinic was because I didn’t go. Someone from my barn had one of the nerve release practitioners out for a “clinic” (ie. she would work on your horse and lecture/teach you stuff? I think) and it was $450/person. I stayed far far away.
Ok, good to know it is seeping North.
I ran across this comment on the FB bodywork/chiro group I follow buried amongst multiple recommendations for BTMM, Art2Ride, and others I know only from various CoTH trainwreck threads. It was kind of refreshing, lol.
Wow, that’s EXACTLY my thoughts on it - but much more concise and straightforward than I could possibly articulate myself.
Ride the dang horse, properly and kindly, with well fitted tack, in a manner that suits the individual. Done.
It is however amazing the extent that riding the horse correctly does not happen at the lower levels, backyard dressage ammies or trail riders or lesson horses. If Celeste is the first person to enter someone’s field of vision that can point that out, she may seem amazing. And if she is strategic about glomming on to other trainers or body workers her true self may be blurred.
Celeste’s “method” isn’t even a repackaging of good basic riding and training principles, though. She claims to be fixing unsound horses and problem horses and basically anything that’s wrong … by doing a series of “exercises” and “nerve releases” which seem to be done primarily (exclusively?) at the walk and halt in an arena.
And AFAIK the only proof she’s ever offered that it works is her saying that it does and sharing still photos of the horse standing in a different posture taken from a slightly different angle.
Who wouldn’t want their horse to be magically sounder and stronger without having to do the difficult sweaty work of lots of hours of correct riding … but that’s like claiming that meditating for 5 minutes a day will make you into a triathlete without needing to exercise.
Her followers seem to have missed out on learning “if it seems too good to be true, it probably is.”
People are very often looking for quick fixes or majickal solutions for themselves as well, nutrition or fitness or health.
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