Thoughts on "The Traveling Horse Witch?"

Also, why is the release course registration only open for a short period time and only once a year if it’s self study? Is she using FOMO to put pressure on those interested?

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Wir sind ja nicht aus Zucker.

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In theory. Perhaps I sweat raindrops but I get very humid inside gore tex and other types of gear like that. Not as sweaty as in pure plastic, but sweaty enough I just don’t bother with it anymore.

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Goretex does sweat. But it will keep you bone dry for about an hour in PNW cold heavy winter rain. Maybe Goretex the real stuff is better than the various knock off versions, but I haven’t been able to find real Goretex in the items I want for years. There isn’t really any other way to be outside around here in winter

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from the washington laws:
RCW 18.92.010 Veterinary practice defined. Any person shall be regarded as practicing veterinary medicine, surgery and dentistry within the meaning of this chapter who shall, within this state, (1) by advertisement, or by any notice, sign, or other indication, or by a statement written, printed or oral, in public or private, made, done, or procured by himself or herself, or any other, at his or her request, for him or her, represent, claim, announce, make known or pretend his or her ability or willingness to diagnose or prognose or treat diseases, deformities, defects, wounds, or injuries of animals; (2) or who shall so advertise, make known, represent or claim his or her ability and willingness to prescribe or administer any drug, medicine, treatment, method or practice, or to perform any operation, manipulation, or apply any apparatus or appliance for cure, amelioration, correction or reduction or modification of any animal disease, deformity, defect, wound or injury, for hire, fee, compensation, or reward, promised, offered, expected, received, or accepted directly or indirectly; (3) or who shall within this state diagnose or prognose any animal diseases, deformities, defects, wounds or injuries, for hire, fee, reward, or compensation promised, offered, expected, received, or accepted directly or indirectly; (4) or who shall within this state prescribe or administer any drug, medicine, treatment, method or practice, or perform any operation, or manipulation, or apply any apparatus or appliance for the cure, amelioration, alleviation, correction, or modification of any animal disease, deformity, defect, wound, or injury, for hire, fee, compensation, or reward, promised, offered, expected, received or accepted directly or indirectly; (5) or who performs any manual procedure for the diagnosis of pregnancy, sterility, or infertility upon livestock; (6) or who implants any electronic device for the purpose of establishing or maintaining positive identification of animals.
The opening of an office or place of business for the practice of
veterinary medicine, the use of a sign, card, device or advertisement
as a practitioner of veterinary medicine or as a person skilled in
such practice shall be prima facie evidence of engaging in the
practice of veterinary medicine, surgery and dentistry. [1995 c 317 §
1; 1959 c 92 § 1; 1941 c 71 § 1; Rem. Supp. 1941 § 10040-1. Prior:
1907 c 124 § 1. FORMER PART OF SECTION: 1941 c 71 § 21; Rem. Supp.
1941 § 10040-21, now codified as RCW 18.92.015.]

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That may be the difference, I live in the intermountain West where it dry and rains for like an hour at most, and you’ll lose heat too fast if you’re at all damp, even under gore tex.

I do have a gore tex rain jacket I only use occasionally as it makes me so sweaty. But again, it’s horses for courses. All that being said, the idea of these britches being waterproof is not a selling point for me!

I have an Arc’teryx Gore-Tex waterproof that has done 14 years of Scottish hillwalking and climbing and it still keeps me mostly dry, for sveral hours. If you’re on a soggy mountain for 7-8 hours, you will be wet no matter what (the whole point of breathable membranes is that they are permeable…water has to be let out as well as kept out. If you wore a bin bag, no rain would get in, but in the meantime, you would overheat and melt into a puddle of sweat). Within reason and physics, the little Arc’Teryx still keeps me more or less dry for a more hours than you’d imagine, and less wet than I would be if I did not have it.

That said, nothing, and I mean nothing short of thrutching up gabbro chimneys, kills a permeable membrane like Gore-Tex faster than the barn. The dirt, hair, and sweat from your horse grind their way into the fabric, and that high-tech membrane withers and dies. I wear cheap waterproofs at the barn. They ain’t that waterproof, and you are definitely soggy after being pished on during an hour-long hack, but Gore-Tex Pro and other materials that you see in high-end mountaineering shells are a waste of money for barn clothes because they can’t deal with horses. Save them for the mountains. They are pretty great there.

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“Thrutching up gabbro chimneys”. I love it.

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Imagine what Lewis Carroll could have done if he had had autocorrect

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https://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/rock_talk/what_is_thrutchy-11604

I am glad of the warning on real Goretex at the barn. Of course I say I will only put the coat on to actually ride but it’s still amazing how much dirt that accumulates.

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Gotta love some fat-phobia, toxic wellness culture and ableism with your horse training…

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Yep. Much more important to make a fashionable impression than actually being able to ride and walk that talk. It’s all about appealing buzz words.

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I swear there’s some Woowoo thesaurus out there that these types use.

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On her instagram page, she posted that she told a client recently that if she can’t drop the reins to the buckle, you should retire from riding. That the rider exclaimed that she was fearful of losing control due to to many injuries.

I find it odd she shared this story about a client, most likely without permission. I wouldn’t feel comfortable reading that on social media if I was that rider.

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That is not the first time she spoke about a client without permission. In the one case I know of personally, she completely misrepresented the situation to make another professional look bad.

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When she said “practice what they are preaching,” I thought she was referring to riders who are successful in competition. Silly me.

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I thought you guys would appreciate this. I mentioned this chick I know of that claims to be an animal communicator on here previously, that has been associated with CLL. My extremely non-horsey boyfriend gets a kick out of checking her page sometimes, even he thinks the stuff she claims is nonsense and he thinks it’s hilarious.

He saw some podcast or something they did with CLL. He asked who the heck this new chick was. I was like, oh gawd, don’t even get me started on that one. So he goes to check her out, and was like, wow, this one is even crazier than other chick, and she’s making bank off it. Even he thought it all sounded incredibly sketchy and ridiculous.

Even better, the podcast was apparently about bullying and negativity. I couldn’t stop laughing. For your enjoyment: (I cut off the page name, wasn’t sure if I should go there, but you could probably find it if you really wanted to)

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What is “a personal relationship with your body”?

How….can I have any other sort of relationship with it???

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I’m sure I’m not saying anything new here, but her marketing is… almost genius. She has a really good pulse on digital trends.

In recent years there’s been a rise in non-professional lifestyle/health coaching on social media. It’s not necessarily new age in nature (though that faction definitely still exists.) It’s more about using therapeutic language to diagnose and treat an array of perceived issues. Anything from gut health to career coaching to trauma has some “guru” on social media with all the right words but zero training to be educating others about it.

Right now the trend seem to be nervous system regulation. Trauma is also a big one. These are real issues, but there’s no shortage of false experts shilling poor advice about them. It seems like everyone has a PDF or mailing list or online course about things they shouldn’t be talking about.

And that advice isn’t even super woo-woo- they just co-opt the language of existing methodologies. They have just enough knowledge to sound credible (reminds me of people who get just enough therapy to feel validated but not challenged.)

To be sure: this isn’t surprising given the high costs of both formal education and healthcare. Finding an Instagram account that promises to treat your neck pain with deep breathing is waaay more accessible than seeing a specialist. Therapy is hard; watching a TikTok is easy. And who doesn’t want to believe quick fixes are within reach?

All that to say: from the perspective of someone who keeps tabs on social media trends, CLL is definitely riding this wave. Clearly it works in toxic wellness culture- she just adapted it the horse world. Using equestrians as a niche is a curious choice given our small numbers, but she might have assumed we all have money to burn :joy:

It’s also funny because the equestrians I know (and maybe COTH isn’t a good place to make this observation!) aren’t big on social media. They’re more interested in the physical world than the digital one since horses demand real-life attention. :grin: That’s not to say an equine professional CAN’T have a digital presence, just that it’s not the norm.

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My take on this is that she assumes (correctly) that a lot of horse women will burn money they may or may not have when told they are doing it wrong and their horses are suffering because of it. We LOVE the idea of an easy fix that we can get to by throwing money in its general direction and practising a little woo woo on our own rather than spend a fortune on training and accredited therapeutic modalities.

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