I mix my cup of oil and powdered supps in a small plastic bucket with alf pellets, then dump it in a manger. The oil soaked into the food and cleanup is easy. Agree that rubber gets ruined by oil 
My mare eats up her Ultimate Finish 100 but it’s just a couple ounces mixed into a scoop of Outlast pellets.
There is an Ultimate Finish 40% that you could try on the picky eater. There is also the Cool Omega 40, which is similar.
I would probably toy with decreasing the overall fat intake. With my suspected, never confirmed PSSM guy, 4-6 ounces of fat made a really big difference for him, and he’s a big guy @17 hands and just under 1,500# when he was in work.
Mine eats Cool Calories, he’s been in it for about 3 weeks now, and I can already see a difference. FWIW he’s on 4lbs of Ultium per day. I just needed a little more fat, he’s an athletic growing boy, and can’t feed more Ultium (another subject), so this was a great addition. He just gets a heaping scoop in the morning of the CC, eats it just fine!
My boy gets 1.5 cups of oil twice daily. I feed a mix of Cocosoya, rice bran oil, and canola. What works best for me is to soak a cup or so of hay cubes - I like Triple Crown Timothy Balance Cubes - and let them swell up. I add the oil, 1/2 cup of Omega Horseshine, and his multivitamin and mix thoroughly. If it’s a bit dry, I add some extra water.
It’s a bit messy but it works for us. I don’t keep my oil in the barn though - I was concerned about temperature fluctuations and also didn’t want to have bugs and dirt getting stuck to anything. I keep my oil in the house and use canning jars for each ‘serving’.
Stance does make a powdered coconut oil called Powerstance. I prefer to stick with the oil for Tucker but his high fat diet is part of how I manage his PSSM.
Hope you find something that works for you, OP.
Thumbs up on Powerstance – it’s tasteless and mixes right in – no messy oils to deal with. My horses don’t even notice it’s there. Highly recommend, but it does sort of freeze into clumps in the winter – easy to break up though.
Huh. Interesting option, although their math seems suspect.
They claim 240 grams is = in calories to 1 cup of oil.
Oil is 2000 kcal in a cup. (A cup of oil is about a half pound, oil is about 4000 kcal/lb.)
They also say their product is 1450 kcal/kg, so 1450 kcal for 1000 grams, or 1.45 kcal per gram.
But 240 grams * 1.45 calories per gram is only 348 kcals. Which is FAAAAAAAR short of the 2000 kcal you get in a cup of oil.
Who can check my math? Their claim seems really appallingly off.
You’d need 1.38 kg (or about three pounds) to get the 2000kcal you get in a cup of oil.
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I can’t help with the math, Simkie. Sadly, I have the dumb when I’m trying to do math. According to the US Stance website, 305 grams of Powerstance would be equivalent to the energy found in one cup of oil. The analysis tab says that it is 70% fat.
OP, if you are feeding fairly small amounts of fat for something like shiny coat or just as a calorie boost, Powerstance may work for you. I would think it would be much more expensive compared to oil. I looked at it a couple years ago and discussed it with Tucker’s vet. Neither of us wanted to try it with my guy - we were both leery of the corn starch in it and neither of us wanted to mess with what has worked well in managing Tuck’s symptoms.
I have a decent system for managing the oil in Tucker’s diet. I do worry about oil going rancid which is why it is stored in a cool, dry place. It is ‘less’ messy to use the canning jars for individual servings of the oil - and I keep each of those in a plastic bag. When the bags get messy, they get replaced. Every six months or so, the jars get replaced. Soaked hay cubes absorb a lot of the oil, reducing mess in and around the feed pan. And rinsing the feed pan once or twice a day keeps it from getting gross. I use the Better Bucket as Tuck’s feed tub and that also helps to contain the mess.
Fat is 9 calories/gram, so oil at 100% fat should be 9 calories/gram. Baking conversion sites say there’s approx 200g per cup for vegetable oil. To compare weight to weight, it will take over 6 times as much Powerstance to equal the calories of oil, if it is correct that there’s 1450 calories/kg (versus 9000 calories/kg oil).
So, you’d need approx 1240g (2.73lbs) of Powerstance to equal 200g oil, to get approx 1800 calories in the serving.
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I’ve been using amplify by purina. It’s not a solid fat supplement but my picky-picky didn’t like cool calories and he eats the amplify.
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Fat is 9 calories/gram, so oil at 100% fat should be 9 calories/gram. Baking conversion sites say there’s approx 200g per cup for vegetable oil. To compare weight to weight, it will take over 6 times as much Powerstance to equal the calories of oil, if it is correct that there’s 1450 calories/kg (versus 9000 calories/kg oil).
So, you’d need approx 1240g (2.73lbs) of Powerstance to equal 200g oil, to get approx 1800 calories in the serving.
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Per the USDA corn oil is not 1800 kcals a cup.
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I can’t help with the math, Simkie. Sadly, I have the dumb when I’m trying to do math. According to the US Stance website, 305 grams of Powerstance would be equivalent to the energy found in one cup of oil. The analysis tab says that it is 70% fat.
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That’s really weird. The label from the Smartpak site says 240 g to equal a cup of oil.
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But yeah, I can see that they say 305 g here: https://stanceequineusa.com/products/power-stance/
But it’s no where NEAR that little 
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Ok, so if you change my math above to 218g/cup versus 200g, then you get over 1.351kg of Powerstance for the same calories. It’s still just over 6x the amount needed compared to oil. (9cal/g / 1.45cal/g).
Yeah, so we’re both in the same ballpark. How on earth can they say 240 or 305 grams = a cup of oil
Because these labels/websites/literature sources are not well regulated.
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I remember when Coolstance was fairly new to the market in my neck of the woods. I am pretty sure that when it was first introduced around here, it was marketed as providing all of the nutritional demands of a typical horse as long as it was fed at the recommended rate along w/ the appropriate amounts of hay and grass. I gave it a try and the horses really liked it. I used it for a couple of years, until I noticed that Stance had changed their advertising to recommend that additional products, such as their own VitaStance, were necessary to feed in addition to the Coolstance. Thankfully, I was already providing supplements because my horses weren’t on the recommended amount. The whole bait and switch really turned me off though and I went back to using Triple Crown products.
The product has it’s place I suppose but I dislike and distrust their marketing.
I love Legends Omega Plus - flax based, smells like vanilla cookies. My OTTB loves it and it keeps his weight nicely 
I’ll take a stab at this – not answering your question directly – just more info:
Powerstance is 29.4 MJ/kg — or 29.4 megajoules per killogram of mass.
1 megajoule (MJ) is 239.006 kilocalories.
A kilocalorie is one large calorie.
There are 7026 large calories per kg of this powder.
As a crazy comparison, petroleum based # 2 diesel fuel has a combustible energy of 45.3 MJ/kg and soybean oil has 39.7 MJ/kg – about 10% more ‘energy’ than Powerstance.
Not only do you really have to know the MJ/kg of whatever fat/oil you want to feed in order to tuly figure out what the exact calories are – but processing, adulteration etc. etc. have to be taken into consideration as well.
Where on earth are you getting that? Per the powerstance label, it’s 1450 kcal/kg.
From their website: https://stanceequineusa.com/products/power-stance/ [h=1]Power Stance[/h]
What is Power Stance®?
• Powdered Coconut Oil
• A rich source of Medium Chain Triglycerides (MTCs)
• High energy (29.4MJ/kg or 3.18MCal/lb)
• Power Stance contains 70% natural coconut oil
• Brilliant coat, mane and tail condition
• May conserve muscle glycogen, allowing horses to train harder for longer
• MCTs comprise lauric and capric acids which may have antimicrobial actions (i.e anti-viral, anti-bacterial, anti-fungal)
• Assists in maintaining appetite and natural digestive function
Why feed oils?
Oil is 2 to 3 times more energy dense than cereal grains – so you can feed less oil to give the same amount of energy. This is especially useful for those horses that won’t eat when in training. Feeding oils may help to give coat, mane and tails a healthy and glossy appearance.
Which Oil is Best?
Most commercial equine feeds contain polyunsaturated fats (PUFAs) including soy, corn and ricebran oils. These polyunsaturated fatty acids may cause an Omega 6 and Omega 3 imbalance. These oils are metabolised slowly through the lymphatics, prone to rancidity, and contains a high level of Omega 6 which may cause inflammation.
Coconut oil is a saturated oil which is absorbed directly into the portal blood and provides a ready source of non glucose energy. Saturated oils promote greater storage and utilization of muscle glycogen in horses during exercise, this means the horses may work harder for longer. [h=4]Ingredients:[/h]
Coconut oil
Purified GM free corn starch
Hydrated Silica [h=4]Feeding Guidelines:[/h] [TABLE]
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[TD=“width: 142”] Power Stance[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD=“width: 122, colspan: 2”]grams/day[/TD]
[TD=“width: 134, colspan: 2”]oz / day[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD=“width: 142”]Coat conditioner[/TD]
[TD=“width: 122, colspan: 2”]50[/TD]
[TD=“width: 134, colspan: 2”]1 – 2[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD=“width: 142”]Gut health and appetite stimulant[/TD]
[TD=“width: 122, colspan: 2”]50[/TD]
[TD=“width: 134, colspan: 2”]1 – 2[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD=“width: 142”]‘Cool energy’ source[/TD]
[TD=“width: 67”]100* / 200**[/TD]
[TD=“width: 55”] [/TD]
[TD=“width: 68”]3.5* / 7**[/TD]
[TD=“width: 66”] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD=“width: 142”]Weight gain[/TD]
[TD=“width: 122, colspan: 2”]200 – 300[/TD]
[TD=“width: 134, colspan: 2”]10 – 12[/TD]
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- in addition to high grain hard feeds.
** in addition to low grain hard feeds.
PowerStance should be introduced gradually into the diet, building up to the required dose rate slowly over a 2 week period. The daily dose should be divided and fed in 2 meals per day. PowerStance should be fed as part of a balanced diet.
(Note: 305 g Power Stance is equivalent in energy to 1 cup vegetable oil).
