"Top Event Trainers Up Their Game with MediVet ACS" - What is this stuff?

[asterix]

You can look up anything that used to be on the web but isn’t any more via the way back machine…just saying.

[Laurierace]

@RAyers

If there is a positive dex test then the horse and trainer should be set down. Period. It doesn’t matter who is at fault. Stop blaming everybody else. As I stated this entire company is a SHAM OPERATION intended to create ways to cheat, just like Florida Gold.

Riders/trainers need to pay the price for not being educated for what they choose to use in their horses. It isn’t difficult. Just because something is “natural” does NOT mean it is beneficial nor effective. The human clinical literature shows that this stuff is actually crap.

Any vet who actually understands medicine and biology would know better than to have trusted this company. And they sure as hell would have done due diligence in the products before prescribing.

There is a reason the FBI was involved and it isn’t just about racing.

This was out of competition testing so it would be perfectly fine for a horse to have dex in their system at that time assuming it was legitimately prescribed by a vet. You only get a bad test if they find banned substances that are never ok to be in a horse’s system during out of competition testing.

[anon6923113]

Hmmm. Out of curiosity I did look up info on the Medivet ACS product, and the older version of the website captured back on March 9th. Here is a rundown of what they claimed was involved in the Medivet ACS product - I’ve copied and pasted for anyone else who is curious…

WHAT IS MEDIVET AUTOLOGOUS CONDITIONED SERUM (ACS)?

MediVet Autologous Conditioned Serum (ACS) is a patented regenerative therapy that blocks & terminates the inflammatory response in the body. With up to 50 doses yielded, MediVet ACS allows for a Systemic Approach in treating inflammation and other equine health issues. Our patented process goes well beyond any other autologous therapy, resulting in the most potent anti-inflammatory effect available anywhere. Our process induces the IL-1ra & IL-10 cytokines, inhibits 6 pro-inflammatory cytokines and upregulates specific growth factors to stimulate regeneration. MEDIVET ACS PROTOCOL

To reap the maximum benefits, MediVet ACS should be administered IV with a dose of 4 mls 3 times per week. This will keep the anti-inflammatory cytokines and regenerative compounds, that are induced during the processing, circulating through the body.

In addition to the systemic IV administration, MediVet ACS is highly effective when injected directly into joints and bathed around tendon and ligament lesions. MediVet ACS can be introduced anywhere that inflammation needs to be eliminated and the healing process expedited. HOW IS MEDIVET ACS PRODUCED?

MediVet Lab Services, our GTP certified lab, spins out the unnecessary parts of the blood and then uses our patented LED photobiostimulation technology to produce the ACS. This low-level light process, along with specially coated glass beads, results in the induction of anti-inflammatory cytokines, inhibition of pro-inflammatory cytokines, and upregulation of growth factors at dramatically greater concentrations than any other process in existence.

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I also went and just looked at their “about” section, the “meet the team” section, and the “testimonials” section…

In addition to Boyd Martin and Marsha Kulak, apparently JJ Tate, Martha Redman, Margie Engel, and Victoria Colvin have used Medivet ACS…

So to be fair… this company has big names from multiple disciplines caught up in this mess on some level.:uhoh:

here is the “About” section of they’re site -
OUR MISSION

Bringing state of the art science and principled stewardship to performance horses, their owners, and the equine industry. Following the medical model of “do no harm”, MediVet Equine develops scientifically based biological therapeutics enabling the horse to call on its own healing ability, thus achieving its full performance potential. WHO WE ARE

MediVet Equine provides effective, all natural, drug free products and lab services designed to optimize the overall health of performance horses. We specialize in regenerative treatments that help the body heal itself and get stronger naturally. Our products are designed to activate naturally occurring stem cells and growth factors within the horses to encourage growth. None of our products swab, or contain chemicals. We are the original developers of ACS (Autologous Conditioned Serum), SGF 1000 RMR and Clear Scope. Our products are safe and suitable for all performance horses. MediVet’s technologies were developed and validated in conjunction with some of the world’s leading equine research groups. In 2006, MediVet’s research and development began in Australia with The University of Sydney. The technology was then co-developed in North America with the University of Kentucky in 2009. Over three years of R&D were conducted before commercializing the products and introducing them to the Veterinary community in 2010. MediVet Equine’s lab facilities are operated in compliance with and conform to Good Tissue Practice (GTP) Standards. We are headquartered in Nicholasville, Kentucky where we are continuing research and development in partnership with the University of Kentucky and Tailor Made Compounding.

[Equibrit]

2017 PR; https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/medivet-equine-issues-open-letter-to-clients-300502956.html

[SonnysMom]

@JER

Hmmmm. From the MediVet ACS promotional material:

Non-steroid not so much.

But you see how easy it is in this case to think you’re administering something legit.

And it can also be that Tailor Made produces different compounds for different people.

(I once lived on the same block as a famous pizza place that got busted for dealing heroin. How it worked was if you ordered a specific combination of toppings, that would be the code for heroin. They got busted when a legit customer legitimately ordered that pizza and were surprised to open the box and find a bag of heroin.)

When I went to college in RI there was a local Dominoes the delivered pot with the pizza. You needed to order extra oregano for a nickle bag. They got caught about 5 years after I left college.

[TKR]

I have zero tolerance for ANYONE using a product such as this to give them some sort of advantage at the detriment or expense of the horse. I seriously doubt any of these well know riders REALLY know all about this product as it is confusing to read to anyone who is not a scientist. I would be very wary and I hope if this is a bad product it is taken off the market very quickly.

[Peggy]

@SonnysMom

When I went to college in RI there was a local Dominoes the delivered pot with the pizza. You needed to order extra oregano for a nickle bag. They got caught about 5 years after I left college.

What’s the deal with RI? When I was in grad school I used to patronize a laundromat bc it was cheap and had lots of room. Every time I went there would be a group of men in there eating pizza (!) and definitely not doing laundry. I suspect it was a front, or something, for the mafia which was decently active there at the time.

[skydy]

@TKR

I have zero tolerance for ANYONE using a product such as this to give them some sort of advantage at the detriment or expense of the horse. I seriously doubt any of these well know riders REALLY know all about this product as it is confusing to read to anyone who is not a scientist. I would be very wary and I hope if this is a bad product it is taken off the market very quickly.

I think it is off the market since so many of the people involved with it were indicted by the Federal Government;).