if I had the brilliantly dappled palomino stallion I once fell in love with then judges et al be damned I’d keep riding him anyway. god that horse was the most gorgeous thing I’d ever seen. some pals are washed out and just ‘meh,’ but when it’s good, it’s reallllly good!
Maddy and Happy…I really CANT wait to get out and compete my boy…to see those heads turn, even if they are biased ones will be quite funny I think!
NEVER ever say that you will dye your pallie!! LOL I actually had a pallie when I was a teenager, she was the most wonderful horse. Now it is like fate that I bought my second pallie 6 weeks ago…reallyw asnt looking for one…was really looking for a talented warmblood…and even if he wasnt a palomino colour he would still be a very nice horse
you are probably wondering what these horses are like…but they are currently in the incubation process…and I plan on winning with them…LOL!!! color or not- actually-especially with that color!!
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/Sabindi/Various%20pics/Dylan2.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/Sabindi/Various%20pics/Dalton1.jpg
you guess what they are and how old they are…one picture shows a 2 yr old…btw and they are not the same horse…LOL!
Sabine…the first one is a 2 year old??
And are they Tennesse Walking Horses or something?
Lovely colours!
If theya re young, they will go darker in colour with age.
They are 2 and 5 and both equally golden- they are American Saddlebreds- and I ride serious dressage. I don’t really care too much about the color- although I love the color…but they have the mind and the gaits…:)!
Well they are lovely!:):winkgrin:
Except for a few wacked out exceptions, dressage judges are color blind. One of our group showed a Palomino horse 15-20 years ago. The horse was judged very fairly. I doubt that anything has changed since then.
Someone here once said a judge told her, ‘nice ride, too bad it’s a Palomino’. I doubt that was a decent judge. Most would realize the comment would be repeated ad nauseum for the next 72 years with their name prominently attached to it, even if it was a joke and didn’t affect the score.
I think colors undergo fashions in the hunter ring, in the sense that people change what sort of horse they think will catch the judge’s eye. White marking currently seem to be popular. I’m not even sure hunter judges, so often accused of looking for a certain color or tack, really are that fixated on it.
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you are probably wondering what these horses are like…but they are currently in the incubation process…and I plan on winning with them…LOL!!! color or not- actually-especially with that color!!
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/Sabindi/Various%20pics/Dylan2.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/Sabindi/Various%20pics/Dalton1.jpg
you guess what they are and how old they are…one picture shows a 2 yr old…btw and they are not the same horse…LOL![/QUOTE]
Sabine, they are gorgeous!
I’ll guess the first one is 2 and the second one is 5??
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Sabine, they are gorgeous!
I’ll guess the first one is 2 and the second one is 5??[/QUOTE]
Nope the other way around- and they are both stallions/colts.
I’m a huge fan of WB’s of color. Not a huge fan of Appy colored ones, but palo’s and paints… why not!
Wow
This is a two year old? Holy smokes!
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/Sabindi/Various%20pics/Dalton1.jpg
Beautiful! Well, both are beautiful
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Loved this thread…my daughter rides a grulla paint (with blue eyes, no less) in the hunter ring. I have been told that hunter judges may be biased against paints and pintos. He jumps so cute and she usually pins well in B and C shows (did ok in an A), but wondering what others’ experiences have been. My daughter would like to give Large Pony Hunters a shot since he can do the 3 foot, but I wonder how he’ll measure up against all those bays and greys.[/QUOTE]
If the pony jumps and moves well, any color will be fine. I’ve seen all different colors, including POA’s, and a grey and white pinto with one blue eye, do just fine at the A shows. All That Glitters, a pale palomino, was one of the most successful on the A circuit, as was Tickled Pink, a red roan.
No horse is a bad color
If a judge was prejudiced against a horse because of its color, I wouldn’t respect their opinion anyway. I have a strawberry roan dutch warmblood mare who I have trained and competed to FEI. She is striking with the classic chestnut head, legs, mane and tail. Her body varies from pink/lilac to silver depending on the season. She had a lovely Sir Sinclair filly last year and my only dissapointment is that her filly is not roan too. It’s especially entertaining when I trail ride her in my western tack. Then people think she’s a QH until they see her move. No, nothing against QH’s. I have one of them too who has competed sucessfully to FEI also. And, to answer your question, I have never felt that a judge has marked me unfairly due to my mare’s color. When I ride down the centerline, I look the judge in the eye and think to myself “You should be so lucky to be sitting on this horse”!
I feel like I’ve seen more horses of unusual color recently and they’ve been attracting POSITIVE attention. I feel like just about every little girl wanted a sparkly golden pony, or a sparkly silver pony, and seeing a palomino still triggers a memory of that first dream pony. Although 99.99% of judges probably don’t pay attention to color, I bet for every odd exception where one judges color harshly, there is another one going “oooh, prreeetttyyy.” Which is what I’d be doing from the sidelines.
…wish I had one…
I was scribing this past fall at a recognized show and a gorgeous palomino was second in a very competitive 2nd level class (I think-might have been 3rd). The S judge I was scribing for loved the horse and the ride.
The ride was balanced, correct, accurate and classy. What’s not to like? LOL
PS The horse that won was ridden by a pro and was quite phenomenal.
). I competed and won lots on a dappled Palomino QHxTrak. The judges LOVED him! Granted I evented but my dressage scores were always in the 20’s or low 30’s (I think in straight dressage that is the equivalent of 80’s and high 70’s, I think). He was an amazing jumper and had the speed and scope for XC. I took him Prelim and we alawys finished in the top 5 if not 1st or 2nd. I won the USEA Horse and Rider of the year on him and the AWS Horse of the Year too. He is now 21 and retired to my parents ranch.
There are some pics of him here :
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If you dont want to go pic by pic you can click on the photobucket link in my signature line and there are more pictures there.
Sabine, you gave in waaaay too quickly, as saddlebred was my first guess! :yes: tx3dayeventer…what a super horse, very coool! OP, there are going to be stupid people that say stupid things all the time. I’ve ridden with trainers who are judges and have competed/ridden at a pretty high level in a very competitive part of the country and I’ve yet to see color bias. :no: IF you listen to the typical DQs that have not a real clue, you hear that dressage riders don’t like anything but tall, dark horses with minimal, matching perfectly symmetrical chrome. It’s a joke, there is plenty of room for all colors/sizes/breeds to do well in dressage. Keep us posted!
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). I competed and won lots on a dappled Palomino QHxTrak. The judges LOVED him! Granted I evented but my dressage scores were always in the 20’s or low 30’s (I think in straight dressage that is the equivalent of 80’s and high 70’s, I think). He was an amazing jumper and had the speed and scope for XC. I took him Prelim and we alawys finished in the top 5 if not 1st or 2nd. I won the USEA Horse and Rider of the year on him and the AWS Horse of the Year too. He is now 21 and retired to my parents ranch.
There are some pics of him here :
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[IMG]http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c163/tx3dayeventer/peachwayneop2.jpg)
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If you dont want to go pic by pic you can click on the photobucket link in my signature line and there are more pictures there.[/QUOTE]
CUTE horse!
Sabine, I LOVE the first guy! Lovely expression, color (I admit to being a pali lover though I have never had one) and head.
Genetic roulette
Once upon a time, there was a QH palomino stallion with lots of chrome in my area. When I started paying attention, he was bred to approximately 10 mares one season.
Results that I was aware of
– One palomino foaled by a chestnut (the only palomino result in about 6 years of breeding)
– a palomino paint foaled by a chestnut paint
– a buckskin foaled by a chestnut
– a dark sorrel foaled by a chestnut
– a bay foaled by a palomino
– a chestnut foaled by a palomino
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I’m a huge fan of WB’s of color. Not a huge fan of Appy colored ones, but palo’s and paints… why not![/QUOTE]
Excuse me!?!?! Please look at my profile pic. Do you see anything particularly egregious about showing such a horse in dressage? ('course, he’s not a EUROPEAN WB, but he did just fine. Don’t be caught up in the idea that real Appaloosas are all built like QHs.)