Umm, Gracie, someone must have had their breeding records mixed up then.
A palomino stallion bred to the mares in question cannot produce a black, bay, or buckskin foal. Chestnut is recessive, so neither can contribute the gene for black, which “agouti” modifies to bay. The possible foal outcomes follow:
– a buckskin foaled by a chestnut
50% chance of chestnut, 50% palomino are the only possibilities
– a bay foaled by a palomino
25% chance of chestnut, 50% palomino, 50% cremello are the only possibilities.
[QUOTE=Feuerlilie;2945371]
Yes…I know it shouldnt matter about the colour,…it is the ability!
He is mine and not for sale haha:D He is only 2 years…has amazing movement and temperament …and comformation is fab!
BUT I have heard little snippets saying that dressage judges will mark him down for colour, if they dont like coloured dressage horses!!! I mean WHO CARES as I will compete him anyways,…but love to hear opinions…also from any JUDGES out there???[/QUOTE]
I’m a judge (in the UK) and colour has NO influence on the marks what so ever!! If a judge genuinely was marking horses down because they didn’t like the colour then they should be struck off!!
It’s usually just sour grapes when people make those sort of comments. They don’t really want to accept that their horse was marked down because it doesn’t go very well, so blame it’s colour/size/the fact that it wasn’t plaited/had the wrong colour saddle cloth/is the wrong breed etc etc.
There is a very nice palomino Danish warmblood competing at PSG locally who does very well.
I’ve been breeding for colour for a while now. I tend to get the scores we deserve, and very often (almost without exception) also get an altruistic “lovely turnout” because they sparkle.
I think dilutes are amazingly elegant in dressage tack & with their rider’s in black & white. Could be why my newest broodie is perlino… guarantees pally or bucskin bebes. 
Check this Palomino Warmblood Out
http://www.psi-auktion.de/englisch/s535241.html
I thought this horse was adorable. He was offered as a dressage horse in the very prestigious PSI auction in Germany. He is absolutely adorable. He is a Palomino and is by the famous stallion Welt Hit. Would have loved to buy him. I am sure he went for a pretty penny.
OMG, WOW! Lovely boy!
http://www.horsesdaily.com/market/horsemarket/75-100/bacharach.html
Here is another one that is quite attractive. I guess I am very attracted to them. I have never been a big “color” person but after having all bay, black, chesnut horses my whole life a “golden” one is quite appealing and would stand out in the crowd. When you go to a dressage show these days, you mostly see dark horses. They all look alike. Well, I am ready for a little variety!
I know that there is a line in the Swedish Warmblood Book that throws Palomino. If they have the movement and temperament that is most important.
I love that there are starting to be so many options to get nice, colored warmbloods.
Here is a palomino dressage horse I really like:
(photo)
and another:
(another photo)
both from here: stald-heimdal.dk
There is also someone here in Florida with one of the only approved cremello German Warmbloods in the U.S., who is breeding some nice palominos.
www.palominowarmbloods.com
And this horse was in the PSI auction in 07, the first time I can remember seeing a “colored” horse at such a prestigious auction.
I am hoping for two buckskin foals this Spring, and one pinto. I love the colors, but best of all they will have quality breeding too and would be nice horses even if they were purple – although I’m hoping for buckskin and pinto, and not purple:D. I like that there are so many choices now, to get nice horses and cool colors.
ltw, Wow outstanding horse!!!
I wonder what is in his pedigree?
There is another great breeder in Germany who breedes palomino warmbloods as well!
Gestuet Falkenhorst
Every year, the PSI auction mails me their beautiful leather bound catalogue in early December. In the catalogue is a CD with the videos. I opened up the catalogue and saw this beautiful little Palomino, named Kevin and showed it to my husband. I have always loved the Welt HIt offspring.
My husband asked what I wanted for Christmas, and I handed him the catalogue with the turned down page with Kevin. He just started laughing and said NO Way was he buying me “another horse” for Christmas. Anyway, I still dream about that cutie pie.
Wow…just came back on here and am gobsmacked at how many replies I have had!
THANK YOU so much for setting my mind at ease.!
And Maude…that is funny about what you think about the judge as you are riding up the centre line!
I am very proud of my “golden boy” and feel very lucky to have met him.
Here in Western Australia there are not many coloured warmbloods competing, maybe in showjumping but not in dressage. Most of them are dark or chestnut with an odd grey every now and then. The most common colour or the most “in” colour at the moment is Black…and chestnut…
To be honest I saw a lot of young warmbloods when I was horsehunting and frankly they bored me…I saw some fabulously moving bays…great movement yes, boring!
Then I saw my boy, and I thought oh yes pretty colour but can he move? Then he trotted across the dressage arena…should I say FLOATED. And stood and looked at me as if to say “Did I do okay?” LOL
This may sound silly but you know how sometimes when you meet a horse, it is like attraction at first sight?? You look at their eyes and thnk this horse is for me? Thats how I felt.
My boy is out of a huge chestnut thoroughbred mare (with some very good tb lines) On his sires side…the sire is buckskin and endlessly siring pallies and backskins…he has Flaneur and more tb, with a drop of arab and stockhorse going way back. There is no quarterhorse,not that there is anything wrong with quarterhorse.
Uli Schmitz trained his Trakhner, Priam, a light chestnut with a flaxen mane and tail to GP.
I sure hope I don’t get marked down for color. My riding will be enough for the judge to comment on! LOL. Pics of my palomino on my profile or at www.sechsmorgenfarm.com
Now, if I’m going to a morgan show in New England that did NOT bring in a western judge… well… then… my hunter rounds don’t go as well as the western pleasure rounds. Guess palomino morgans are allowed to be western horses, but not hunters.
since ya’ll are talking about sire and dam color I thought I would throw in that my guy’s dam was a palomino QH (barrel racer) and his daddy was Grandioso 47, a liver chestnut G-line Trakhaner (sp?).
There is another guy here in Australia, he posts on here as belambi. They breed a lot of paint and appaloosa sportshorses many of whom are now in USA. He was talking about this the other day, and pointed out to me that Apps are the ONLY coloured breed so far to have had olympic representation(and I believe they were very minimally marked?).
Either someone is fence jumping or those foals are registered wrong. They CANNOT be black based out of and by two red based horses.
[QUOTE=Feuerlilie;2945436]
Hi SUnny…the only trick is to keep them clean!
Ever had a judge mark you down??? And what elvel are you competing hima t?
I dont mind scaring some horses haha[/QUOTE]
We’ve never been marked down for color or being a non-WB…but what does happen is those drug testers just love my horse, and I’ve been tested mutiple times…the testers just love to talk about riding a Palomino :yes:. It’s no biggy. And you’ll also get ALOT of folks coming up to you saying that there first horse was a Palomino…blah blah blah.
He’s going PSG/Int1
Palomino Trakhener yearling for sale!
I actually have a warmblood cross palomino yearling for sale, he turns 2 this fall I have to sell him because my show barn needs to make room for mature horses in full training, I bought him from NY and had him shipped to CA, he’s at a great steal of a price $3500 (worth $6000 what he is actually worth) has clean xrays had blood tests and everything when I purchased him a year ago, quick learner and great personality, see his ad here:
http://equine.com/Horses/ad_details.aspx?lid=565064&search_id=03c41d2e-7066-49f3-99b1-ed35e2b33419
also here:
http://www.dreamhorse.com/show_horse.php?form_horse_id=1153213
email me for more pictures of dam and sire, sire was exported to NZ and dam was champion hunter in NY state.
Eva
