Omg. Feel free to call me. I have built two barns. In the stalls, do the jugs, plumb from underneath. I had the nelsons in first barn, never again. The Jugs stay clean but are super easy to flush. The PITA is getting g the pipe to come up exactly where it is supposed to go but that’s the builders probs. No regrets on those things. So much better! Oh 617-417-0773. East coast.
You are a lifesaver! I was becoming paralyzed about making this decision haha. Thank you so much! I may still give you a call 
