Tori Colvin annouced retirement of Way Cool, Inclusive, Canadian Blue, and Ovation

[ThegoodLife]

As posted on her Instagram:

“I am full of mixed emotions having this year come to an end so soon. I am happy (but sad at the same time) to say Way Cool, Inclusive, Canadian Blue, and Ovation are being retired. They have made my JR years so special and I am so grateful. The equitation horses will continue to equitate??? Thank you Patrick, Clearway, Nat King Cole, and Avalanche for the amazing help in the equitation – not to forget VIP Z who helped me start my equitation career. Also Small Affair I was honored to have you for my last JR year”

https://instagram.com/victoriacolvin/

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[supershorty628]

Think it’s worth clarifying that the question marks are, on the IG post, heart emojis (probably unable to copy over to the forum) - Tori did not put question marks there

[ThegoodLife]

Sorry! I didn’t even notice that (Yes those were emoji’s)

[findeight]

Another detail, she did not say she was “retiring” the horses, she said she was seeing them retired by the owner(s). Your post title cites the former, could be misleading to casual readers or noobs who don’t know she does not own them.

[hunterrider23]

Am I the only person confused as to why these horses are retiring at age 12 (Inclusive), 13 (Way Cool), and only 10(Canadian Blue)?! Generally at that age horses are at their prime or at the most steping down if they haven’t had some sort of career ending injury… If Dr. Parker really wants to retire them, I’ll take one as a 2’6" or 3’ hunter please. I can see Ovation retiring, he’s 15 and has been around, but Canadian Blue just seems too young to call it quits.

[iEquitate]

[QUOTE=hunterrider23;8385736]
Am I the only person confused as to why these horses are retiring at age 12 (Inclusive), 13 (Way Cool), and only 10(Canadian Blue)?! Generally at that age horses are at their prime or at the most steping down if they haven’t had some sort of career ending injury… If Dr. Parker really wants to retire them, I’ll take one as a 2’6" or 3’ hunter please. I can see Ovation retiring, he’s 15 and has been around, but Canadian Blue just seems too young to call it quits.[/QUOTE]

Inclusive has been on and off and has had health issues in the past, plus he has been one of Tori’s longest mounts and I’m sure means a lot to Betsee. Way Cool is notoriously very difficult and might not go around for another rider. Canadian Blue I thought would keep showing, but he has already won everything in his division so maybe she wants him to end on a streak and go with the rest of Tori’s herd. Betsee retired For The Laughter when he was around 12 too, I’m sure they won’t mind their new lives but will miss seeing them in the ring!

[Single_Oxer]

If you look at Canadian Blue’s record he seems like he might not be the easiest either…

[dp1092]

I was almost sure that Betsee would hand the reins to Emma Kurtz (who undeniably has a bright future ahead of her) and because of her association with Scott Stewart. Emma also rode Patrick at Maclay Finals. But I guess that isn’t the case.

[ynl063w]

[QUOTE=findeight;8385692]
Another detail, she did not say she was “retiring” the horses, she said she was seeing them retired by the owner(s). Your post title cites the former, could be misleading to casual readers or noobs who don’t know she does not own them.[/QUOTE]

If we’re going to nitpick, she did not say that she is seeing them retired by the owner(s). Her direct quote is right there in the first post of this thread, copied and pasted from instagram - she said they are being retired.

[monstrpony]

[QUOTE=ynl063w;8385838]
If we’re going to nitpick, she did not say that she is seeing them retired by the owner(s). Her direct quote is right there in the first post of this thread, copied and pasted from instagram - she said they are being retired.[/QUOTE]

In fact it does not specify who is retiring them, only that they are being retired. One can only assume it is by their owner as that is the person who ultimately has control of their use. I would imagine that there is some mutual agreement about this, but one never knows. And retirements are not irrevocable–things can change. But these horses have had good, full careers with an exceptional rider. I can imagine that adjusting to teaching someone else might be something that they are perhaps not that well suited to. Besides, what is left for them to prove? In any event, it’s their owners to call to make.

[StormyDay]

Well, you know, she could always ‘gift’ them to me. :lol:

[Single_Oxer]

Scott Stewart was listed as owner for Patrick at Maclay finals and USEF says he was the Owner there as well.

[iEquitate]

[QUOTE=Single Oxer;8385887]
Scott Stewart was listed as owner for Patrick at Maclay finals and USEF says he was the Owner there as well.[/QUOTE]

Almost certain this was because it was a last-minute entry switch from VIP Z who is owned by Scott and whoever did the switch made a mistake on the form, I’ve had it happen before. Can’t really see Betsee selling that horse (or Scott buying an equitation horse)!

[Equitational]

Retirement can mean different things to different people. Horses may be retired for show ring but may be hacked at home. Can’t imagine sending young healthy horses to pasture at age 10 just to see them sit in a pasture for 15+ years.

[pepper1986]

Maybe they’re being retired because BP doesn’t want people to see how they really go without PP (as we all know Inclusive did test positive for GABA at the Derby Finals in 2014 and the 9 tubes of PP he was given beforehand). It’s true that there isn’t any proof that the others were on the same regime but one can only wonder what the others preperation was.

And don’t say that you weren’t thinking the same thing even if you didn’t say it. :winkgrin:

[QUOTE=hunterrider23;8385736]
Am I the only person confused as to why these horses are retiring at age 12 (Inclusive), 13 (Way Cool), and only 10(Canadian Blue)?! Generally at that age horses are at their prime or at the most steping down if they haven’t had some sort of career ending injury… If Dr. Parker really wants to retire them, I’ll take one as a 2’6" or 3’ hunter please. I can see Ovation retiring, he’s 15 and has been around, but Canadian Blue just seems too young to call it quits.[/QUOTE]

[Darkwave]

I wonder if they’re doing retirement ceremonies for each? My understanding is that you can always just announce that a horse is retired, and then unretire him/her later. But if you have an official retirement ceremony at a rated horse show, then the horse cannot be shown ever again at a rated show.

[bamboopole]

This is correct.

[ynl063w]

[QUOTE=monstrpony;8385873]
In fact it does not specify who is retiring them, only that they are being retired. One can only assume it is by their owner as that is the person who ultimately has control of their use. I would imagine that there is some mutual agreement about this, but one never knows. And retirements are not irrevocable–things can change. But these horses have had good, full careers with an exceptional rider. I can imagine that adjusting to teaching someone else might be something that they are perhaps not that well suited to. Besides, what is left for them to prove? In any event, it’s their owners to call to make.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I thought it was pretty obvious that the owner is the one with the final say. Which is probably why Tori said they were retiring and didn’t mention WHO was responsible. I mean really, when have you ever seen an announcement like this where there is a name associated with WHO is doing the retiring?

I’m pretty sure that once you officially retire a horse with the USEF, it can’t show again.

The point I was making is that findeight corrected the OP with a statement that was not accurate.

[Ladylexie]

I’m sure there retiring because without the drugs they won’t do as much winning. They are clearly wonderful horses, but, not the endless blue ribbon machines that the drugs turned them into so they figured go out on top.

[vxf111]

[QUOTE=Ladylexie;8386116]
I’m sure there retiring because without the drugs they won’t do as much winning. They are clearly wonderful horses, but, not the endless blue ribbon machines that the drugs turned them into so they figured go out on top.[/QUOTE]

Cynical view but could be true. Without the specific “prep regimen” they’re used to (which another “team” might be unable to replicate) these horses may not stay on top. Hence, better to retire them now.