Totilas

[J-Lu]

@joiedevie99

Agreed! I’ve ridden two offspring that were incredible, but I’ve also seen a bunch that were decidedly average. Many are still quite young, as his stud fee was very high for the first few years.

Like all stallions, there’s a bell curve to the talent of the offspring, much depending on the mare (I know they restricted first breedings to to quality mares). His initial stud fee was freakishly high.

[Edre]

@MHM

I have not kept up with this horse at all. Has he bred a lot of mares? Does he have a lot of successful offspring?

Of his older offspring I’ve observed that he doesn’t throw a consistent type - not a stamping stallion afaik. He has some lovely offspring, but most of the ones that I’ve liked the most have been out of exceptionally nice mares (Total Hope a great example). When bred to a more average mare (or a nice mare that they used Totilas to try to improve something specific on) the results are less spectacular. The quality of the mare is super important with him.

Although as noted above, the initial astronomically high stud fee limited who used him early on. What happens as some of the later foal crops really hit full maturation/advanced competition age may change my opinion.

[Cowgirl]

I have a Toto Jr. x Fuerst Heinrich–it is the most intelligent and level headed horse that I have ever had…and it is only 18 months old! He is also a spectacular mover. i am very excited.

[MHM]

@Cowgirl

I have a Toto Jr. x Fuerst Heinrich–it is the most intelligent and level headed horse that I have ever had…and it is only 18 months old! He is also a spectacular mover. i am very excited.

Cool! Pics? Videos?

[Jenerationx]

Nice to see him again!

[MHM]

Cowgirl, wow! Stunning!

[Equibrit]

@joiedevie99

Agreed! I’ve ridden two offspring that were incredible, but I’ve also seen a bunch that were decidedly average. Many are still quite young, as his stud fee was very high for the first few years.

Read this; http://www.eurodressage.com/2019/10/19/edward-gal-upclose-and-personal-about-totilas-dutch-nrc-newspaper

[Cowgirl]

@MHM

Cowgirl, wow! Stunning!

Thank you! He was just a year old in that picture. I am happy to upload some training video of him but cant figure out how to do it. This is the nicest horse I have ever owned. I will say that i think the Desperados (DeNiro x Rotspon) in Toto Jr helped with trainability. But he is so SO smart—a little professor!

[Manni01]

shouldn’t probably talk about it yet, but I am really playing with the idea to use Totilas on my Don Schufro /Sandro Hit mare… She comes from a very proven motherline ( which I know well enough to know how the line produces ) and I have not seen mediocre offspring of this dam line yet… They are all very ridable and have three impressive gaits… And the foal will be my future riding horse anyhow… He is 20 now so maybe risky to wait much longer…

[gailbyrd]

@Manni01

shouldn’t probably talk about it yet, but I am really playing with the idea to use Totilas on my Don Schufro /Sandro Hit mare… She comes from a very proven motherline ( which I know well enough to know how the line produces ) and I have not seen mediocre offspring of this dam line yet… They are all very ridable and have three impressive gaits… And the foal will be my future riding horse anyhow… He is 20 now so maybe risky to wait much longer…

If I had the opportunity and the funds to breed to Totilas, I so would do it!!! Just call me an enabler:winkgrin:

[Manni01]

@gailbyrd

If I had the opportunity and the funds to breed to Totilas, I so would do it!!! Just call me an enabler:winkgrin:

Thank you ❤️. His stud fee really went down, he is in the same range as other proven sires… So it is really tempting…

[Nous]

Total US:

If the link doesn’t work look up Hoefslag on facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/Hoefslag/videos/602348140333039/

[alicen]

Gal’s quite the competitor.

[J-Lu]

@alicen

Gal’s quite the competitor.

Yea, but likely too much for this horse.

[Jenerationx]

@J-Lu

Yea, but likely too much for this horse.

Can you explain what you mean by that? I’m not that familiar with dressage riders, do you mean he’s over-ridden here?

[enjoytheride]

@Jenerationx

Can you explain what you mean by that? I’m not that familiar with dressage riders, do you mean he’s over-ridden here?

People either love Edward Gal or hate him.

[Gesaffelstein]

@Edre

Of his older offspring I’ve observed that he doesn’t throw a consistent type - not a stamping stallion afaik. He has some lovely offspring, but most of the ones that I’ve liked the most have been out of exceptionally nice mares (Total Hope a great example). When bred to a more average mare (or a nice mare that they used Totilas to try to improve something specific on) the results are less spectacular. The quality of the mare is super important with him.

Although as noted above, the initial astronomically high stud fee limited who used him early on. What happens as some of the later foal crops really hit full maturation/advanced competition age may change my opinion.

Just curious, what was his initial stud fee?

[Edre]

@Gesaffelstein

Just curious, what was his initial stud fee?

I believe when he was first offered publicly it was €5,500. (and it’s been at €2,500 since 2016, iirc.)

[Jenerationx]

@enjoytheride

People either love Edward Gal or hate him.

Ah, ok. I don’t know enough about him to have an opinion either way. Horse looks good though.

[Nous]

Interesting discussion on Total US
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2640242829377675&id=108896599178990