Training pairs to drive?

I was curious about what the methods for teaching horses do go in a pair, 4 in hand, or more are? Obviously you’d start with two horses who drive well individually, but i’ve never been around anyone who had multiple driving horses to see the process.

Once a horse drives well as a pair, is going to 4, or 6, or 8 any different?

I’ve also seen it mentioned that big name drivers have alternate horses for their 4 in hands. Is that alternate capable of taking on any spot on the team, or would you have an alternate wheeler and an alternate leader?

Must be watching too many period movies lately!

As mentioned, each horse should go well as a single, flexible in both directions, knows his commands. If you have a horse already trained as a Multiple, it helps to start the singles with them. The more trained horse is accepting of the learner horse bumping them, being slower to understand.

Having two beginners makes for more confusion to start, so you need a person with trained hands as an experienced Pair driver, to be on the reins. He is more able to help the learning horses.

A single horse driver has no skills with rein handling needed for the Pair, adds MORE to the general confusion of starting a new Pair. Lessons for the Driver to learn with an experienced Pair is best. Taught WAY before starting a new Pair, so responses are more automatic to the horses. Not having to think, THEN do rein response to help or correct things.

The Single horse is having to learn a new way of doing things, what the hitching will allow in bending, rein signals. Quite different than his single driving.

Moving on up to 4s, usually is less of a change coming from the Pair. Each set of horses in the 4 is driven as a Pair. They should be INDEPENDENT of the other set of horses in responses to the reins. Leaders turn, THEN wheelers turn at the SAME point, they don’t just follow like trailer wheels behind the tow vehicle. Leaders usually do not do much pulling of the load, that can damage your wheelers in a turn! So Driver has a LOT literally, in his hands keeping things smooth and forward when driving a 4 or more of horses.

You work the horses as Pairs and 4s, so they learn how to go together. We change sides every hitching, keeps both sides of horse trained. They may have a “Best side or position” which we use for show days. Otherwise they go where they are hitched.

Leaders usually stay leaders, they have a different attitude than most wheelers. Have to be bold and FORWARD all the time. Wheelers have to be rock solid, dependable, willing to try HARD if you get stuck a bit. Wheelers are managing the WHOLE LOAD most of the CDE. Sometimes your best horses are in the Wheeler position!! The whole group and any alternate, must get along ALL THE TIME, when working. They have to learn to bend and flex, give and take the reins as asked by the Driver.

You do not drive Pairs and 4s the same way. Expectations in the Dressage or Hazards of bending, folding, speed asked, are almost 100% different. Pairs can fly thru a Hazard, rest between them. 4s have to work things very different with two folding points in the turnout. You lose time doing gates and so have make up your speed between the hazards with a Four.

Alternates for a Team of 4 should be able to work where you put them. I am sure that the Drivers work at keeping them skilled in all aspects of team work. However from our experiences, the Driver looks at his alternate and who he will be replacing. Then he may shuffle the whole Team about, to use each horse to his best ability. Driver might move a wheeler forward to Leader, change sides with him. He might put the alternate in front, bring up a wheeler who LIKES the alternate, putting the Leader back to a wheeler. That would keep both pairs of horses happy partners.

This is NOT driving Multiple horses like your Grandpa did or the Amish still do. CDE horses are a TOTALLY different kind of driving than was EVER done in the history of Driving equines. Thinking is all different for Competition goals we now expect from CDE horses.

The “name” folks have played with the members of their Team in EVERY configuration to get the best results. They know how the animals work best in all situations, with the other horses. The horses themselves are easy with changes, secure in the Team as a herd, confident in the Driver managing them. They live in a constantly changing world of travel, competitions, new hazards, situations, so they are not usually bad to deal, don’t get excited, when routines in handling stay familiar.

Big name competitors want to win, they make it as easy for horses to be happy as possible. The money invested is high, they don’t put up with much “attitude” in a Team horse, he has to fit and be adaptable to whatever is asked of him.

Not like dealing with a Single at all. The best Pairs and Fours have the time put in to make them smooth. Hours and hours with skilled hands on the reins. That gets everyone working together to be smooth, know their places well. Nothing can take the place of time spent in working together. Gimmicks and tricks of training are not going to speed anything up, might create problems for you or the horses.

Some days that time together is some hours down the road. Other days it might be 15-20 minutes if horses all give you the big “YES” answer to all your rein questions. You get all “Yes Sir” answers, then you put them away or back out in the field. You don’t work or drill the them more, when they are so good that day. So the total is 2 hours grooming, hitching and unhitching, putting stuff away. 15 minutes of driving time today, and they were WONDERFUL in your hands!!

ok… another curious question

If that’s how you start a four in hand, how do you start (or how differently do you start) a unicorn hitch? :slight_smile:

You would need a bold horse, with training as a Leader, to get going as a Unicorn. This would be similar to driving Tandem, in that the Leader is WAY out front, ALL ALONE in both hitches. You need the Leader of both the Tandem and Unicorn to get FORWARD and stay out there.

If the Leader has gone in a Four, he probably will be a good Leader candidate for Tandem and Unicorn, but not always. Again, that horse is facing everything he meets alone, with no firm shafts, no partner, to hold him in position. He has to move forward confidently, respond to the reins and voice of his driver. Usually is not in draft so even traces are loose. Such a horse is more of a “hood ornament” than a real working horse.

Again you will need to put in the time to get the Leader responding well, quickly, out there alone. Driving a Leader out there alone is MUCH harder than the Leaders of a Four. That single Leader will respond VERY FAST, can come TOTALLY around to visit the Driver, so rein techniques are different than with a Four. Driver has NO TIME to look down and figure out their reins, because by then they have lost control. Rein handling MUST be automatic, smooth at all times for best results. AND Driver must be able to use the whip if he needs it. Sometimes you just need that TOUCH on a horse to keep them honest.

The Leader and Wheeler or Wheelers, need to work together smoothly as a set. They get familiar with each other, the feel of the harness and vehicle in work. Not a quick process for the best final results. Both Tandem and Unicorn are kind of “show-off” hitches now, though they started for practical purposes.

As an observer you should note the rein handling, contact, body carriage, traces of the horses, to see whether the Unicorn or Tandem are truly working together or just hitched to the same vehicle. The styles of driving at shows, Drafts compared to Carriage, have different expectations of both hitches in their Driving competitions.

Tandems can compete in CDE, but no classes for Unicorns that I have heard of. Getting the Tandem thru Dressage, Hazards and Cones is not easy and the skill levels now seen are VERY high.

I have to believe driving the Unicorn will get your heart racing pretty fast!

Since you’ve done such an excellent job of explaining things, i’ll pester you with more questions. :winkgrin:

I’ll preface this with: I am completely ignorant about anything to do with driving multiple horses (and many things to do with driving just one!), so i’m sorry if these seem like dumb questions.

I understand what you’re saying about the lead horse in a tandem hitch being able to spin around, but what keeps a leader in a four in hand from doing the same? Obviously they would be limited to one direction, but are the leaders held together at all?

What was the practical purpose that tandem and unicorn started for? I’ve also seen pictures of three abreast (does this have another name?). Does that serve any other purpose?

What are the different expectations of the hitches at the different types of shows?

I don’t visit the driving board often, but I remember seeing someone (Thomas?) say they thought tandems were quite dangerous (or maybe unnecessarily risky?). I didn’t know you could compete tandem in CDE. Is that a pretty common thought, and if so, why are they allowed?

On a completely different note, do you have 8 reins for an eight in hand? How in the world would you ever figure out how to hold/use all of those? Any pictures of proper rein handling for 4, 6, or 8 horses?

I’m sure some of this information is on the web, but my searches don’t seem to bring up much.

This should go in the FAQ. You’ve given some great explanations goodhors.

how do you start a un![](corn hitch?
You start by crossing your fingers or praying that the horse in front knows what it’s doing and you’ve judged it correctly for being sensible and obedient :winkgrin:

Tandem driving is frequently said to be the domain of those who don’t mind doing stupid or risky things. Reason why: the horse in front is out there independently doing his own thing. You really have to hope that he knows what he’s doing and can hear you.

Here’s what happens when it goes well:

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But when it gets “interesting”, it gets VERY INTERESTING:

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/flodden_edge/Driving/ohshit.jpg)

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/flodden_edge/Driving/gotitwrong0082.jpg)

I understand what you’re saying about the lead horse in a tandem hitch being able to spin around, but what keeps a leader in a four in hand from doing the same? Obviously they would be limited to one direction, but are the leaders held together at all?
His colleague next to him and the single bars behind each horse which are in turn attached to a main bar that keeps the horses together.

Tandem was initially a way of getting a gentleman’s horse to the hunt. The horse at the front isn’t in draft so it arrives there fresh and would be the first hunter. The one in draft gets a rest and then is used as the second hunter.

I’ve a load of old paintings of horses taken to the hunt tandem.

The first one is then put in draft for the homeward journey because it’s just had a rest while it’s owner was hunting on it’s mate.

With heavy draft horses tandem is power to be there when you need it.

Thomas, I just love you pictures! You always seem to have one for every topic and how you keep them so organized that you can find them…

As far as teaching a horse to drive in a pair, our trainer frequently will START them that way if the horse needs support. An older experienced horse next to them can be a huge help and keep things a lot safer. In putting our pairs together we were more concerned with temperament and gaits - and it’s worked quite nicely :slight_smile:

Unicorn

I thought you might find this interesting. I stumbled across it whilst looking for something of interest to post about driving etiquette.

From “Driving Lessons” by E Howlett published 1894.

“But let us return to a more serious subject. If, on an unlucky day, you have a horse that cannot continue his route and you must nevertheless get home, make up a unicorn, two horses at the wheel and one leader. Take off the two small bars from the main bar and put your horse to it; let out two or three holes in your leader’s traces so that he can get a little further from thje pole; put your other leader’s rein as if you had the pair, only put the draft reins through the bit and the couplings on the noseband, unless you can slip your hand-pieces through the coupling buckle and loops. In this case you would have a pair of reins similar to tandem leaders’. be sure that in starting you have these two reins quite even’ to accomplish this, look for the stitchings of your hand pieces as though you had your team. Be careful to have the off rein stitching just the length of the stitching nearer to you than the near side one, as this rein is on at an oblique angle, and the off rein is on a straight line.”

Tandem Driving

“Driving” by His Grace the 8th Duke of Beaufort. Published 1890

[I]"We are often told that a tandem is the most dangerous mode of conveyance ever invented by the human mind. People say that the driver has no possible command over the leader, and that a tandem cart can be overturned with the greatest of east; another frequent objection is that the leader is of no use, that he never does any work, and I have genereally heard the deficiencies and delinquencies of the unfortunate conveyance summed up with, “If you want to break your neck, go in a tandem”…

And now comes the pith of the whole matter - the driving. Let the cart be perfection, let the animals be faultless, let them be perfectly broken in and trained, let the harness and harnessing be without a flaw - it is all of no avail and as good as useless unless the driver is efficient, and handles the reins with skill. Horses are invariably admitted to the the most intelligent, and it is a certain fact that they find out instantly if an inefficient and timid driver is striving to obtain, and retain, the master over them." [/I]

tandem

:lol::lol::lol:

"If you want to break your neck, go in a tandem