Training to drive tandem

I have a nice pair of Haflingers, full sister and brother ages 8 and 6 respectively. Both are trained well to ride and green to drive.

Sister is lowest in the herd but when out trail riding, gets out in front and GOES. Controlled, but she enjoys every minute. She took easily to driving. Brother wants nothing more than to tuck his nose in behind her and follow. He’s also about two inches taller.

I think they would be so nice as a tandem! I’m fairly new to driving so I’m sure everyone will be aghast at the idea, but it feels like a natural for this particular pair.

I’ve watched tandem classes and my big question is How do you keep the leader from doing a 180 and really messing up the endeavor? I assume the answer is training training and more training….I did a search and turned up Thomas’ pics of just that situation.

I’ve sent for a book from Amazon, (buying books is my biggest vice next to horses :wink: ) but I’d love insights from those who have gone before. I don’t want to do CDE, I would just like to develop this idea slowly for around our six acre pasture initially.

What speciality harness is involved?

Part of the trick is Driver having skill with 4 reins. This means a GREAT DEAL of practice with reins only, and Tandem LESSONS from a skilled trainer with some experienced horses. Being a Tandem Driver is something that needs a lot of auto response, because things happen SO FAST you will die or wreck if you have to look at your hands.

With your two horses being so green now, I don’t think this is a good idea AT THIS TIME. It is a FINE GOAL for later after they are more experienced, and you have done YOUR homework to gain skills needed.

I am not trying to discourage you, but a lot of things need doing before you endeavor to use your horses Tandem. Your Leader needs to be BOLD, FEARLESS in any situation. They are going along “because they LIKE TO GO”, you really have little control if Leader doesn’t move forward. You can’t push them!! Your whip skills need to be good enough that you can “reach out and touch them” for needed forward if they hesitate or shy sideways. Lash on long stick whip is about 16ft for husband’s tandem whip. Can you hit what you aim at, both sides of Leader? Husband spent a LOT of hours gaining that skill, does pretty well now. Killed a couple bales of straw and spot targets on bale, perfecting his aim!

We did the cheapy tandem first, just got long traces, tandem keys, roger rings, trace carrier strap and long reins. Everything fit on our two single harnesses. Setup worked, looked alright, suitable and correct for show ring, road driving. These items just were not usable when we moved to more skilled needs doing CDE.

For the CDE we used home built Leader bars, not styled like antique leader bars. Those antiques will just knock your Wheeler silly with all that swing going!! Tjeerd Velstra has a driving book out with a section on Tandem. We modified our CDE harness after his, lead bars too. Lets us use shorter traces, no chance of trace on the ground to get Wheeler foot in, which HAPPENED with the long traces of original stuff. Everything was very useful in real WORKING conditions for CDE. Husband uses both horses or takes the Wheeler out of draft on straight-aways to let him rest. Our Leader works when ever he can let her, they both come into Vet check with the same temps and respirations! Saves the Wheeler for times when he is the only one pulling, like hazards or winding trail.

Not sure what bits you would be using, but strongly suggest you do NOT use pair bits with bars on the bottom. Yes they are traditional, look nice, but those bars can get snagged on shaft ends very easily. Few horses will relax to let you unhook the bar without exploding from being confined. The clear plastic tubing over shank ends of bit, will make a “bar” to prevent Wheeler hooking Leader reins. Yet plastic tubing will rip off bit if snagged on the shaft tip. Gavin Robeson with the Teams of Four, is shown with his horses wearing the plastic tubing to prevent problems. We did a wired bar on our first horses, never thought of plastic tubing then! Light wire bar would come off easily if snagged, but prevented rein problems with busy headed Wheeler.

Another suggestion is to start your hitching with string traces that can break. Lots of folks start with no traces for Leader, but our horses got confused with no trace barrier to feel. Didn’t know when to stop on the sideways! They were experienced Driving horses, so just light string trace to feel was enough, broke if they were not working together for safety. Horses have to learn to start together, with Leader staying AHEAD all alone out there. She did come back to visit the Driver a few times, Driver fumbled the reins and whip, then things would get straightened out again, retied the string traces again.

Tandem is not something you ever want to do alone. Again, you have a couple reins, whip, voice, for control and things can go bad in a heartbeat!! Always best to have a groom or friend that can help you, riding along or on the ground watching. I do a LOT of walking the first few hitchings, and this is with EXPERIENCED horses trying to figure out what we want of them. After they learn their job, things get easier, but learning times can vary!! Groom person may have to hop down to adjust things, pick up dropped whip, or run back to get whip still stuck in tree!! He SAID the tree grabbed the lash! Swinging that long length will get your lash tangled in the oddest places.

They don’t call Tandem Driving the most dangerous style with no reason! And the good drivers, trained horses make Tandem look SO EASY that people are fooled about the true skills needed. The skill standards do keep getting higher too! Totally amazing what they can do with their Tandems now.

Around here the Draft folk are known for some wild driving, they bounce the Leader off the ring walls, brag on how this is only 2-3rd hitching. Often use young horses, 2yr olds, because they go FORWARD, drag the Wheeler along. When they wreck it is bad.

Husband says he likes Tandem because the racing blood cleans out his arteries!! When the horses are good on marathon, it is like flying being behind a Cruise Missile!

wow goodhors, your post is exciting just on its own! My husband has vowed to get more involved with the horse hobby so this will definitely be for the time we are working more together, and it sounds like something he would enjoy. He did ride a motorcycle before we got married…:eek: whihch will be 20 years in May.

We’ll get the two horses a lot more experienced before trying this, although the mare is a steady girl already and very in tune with me.

I think I’ll copy your post to a document on my hard drive for future reference - thank you!

Driving my two Clydesdale geldings tandem is something I hope to do one day. Both are well-trained enough…the bigger one has actually been the wheel of a tandem at the Grass Valley Draft Classic…alas, with someone else driving. I am working this show season on driving them team and they are coming along very well. They needed to get to know each other better. Trainer says I should plan on learning to drive a four-up first, says tandem is about the most difficult (or maybe just a step down from unicorn). One day…

I endorse every single thing said by Goodhors.

If you’re even thinking of going to tandem then your rein handling has got to be spot on - you need a high level of manual dexterity and quick response times… this coming from the man whose photo you’ve already seen with the leader turned round the wrong way :winkgrin: I could say I was just unlucky that a photographer happened to be at the very point that I’d ever done that. I could say that! But I’d be lying!!! All tandem drivers know that it’s not an uncommon experience.

So first and foremost you’ve GOT to ensure you’re not a person who panics or flaps or makes a drama out of a crisis! Likewise your horses also have to be of that disposition.

I’m one of those who always urge drivers NEVER to drive alone even if they’re “just” driving a single horse. In my opinion and experience, it’s mad, bad and dangerous. Do it with a tandem though and YOU WILL LIKELY DIE! Might not be tomorrow or the day after but you WILL have a serious accident.

The way to check you’re anywhere near ready is long reining. Your horses have to be spot on perfectly obedient under long reins and REALLY good to your voice. If you speak quietly then you’ve absolutely NO chance having the leader hear you so far out in front and on a windy day…so if you’re not good at “loud and assertive”, then don’t even think about it!!

For a tandem leader I like to be able to control it by voice alone and one of my clinic “party tricks” is to do precisely that. Basically I “pretend” I’m going to do a long reining demonstration and put the driving harness on and sort of act a bit distracted and forgetful at several stages and have one of my staff acting and to keep reminding me of things as I’m talking through the microphone to the audience.

Then away I go with the horse with no reins attached at all and my groom waving the long reins at me as she runs after me and saying I’ve forgotten! I carry on as if I can’t hear her and then work the horse ahead of me round a simple cones course with voice alone.

If you can long rein the two horses VERY well together then you have half a chance of being able to manage them in a carriage. But my strong advice is that you HAVE to be a VERY competent singles and pairs driver before you even think about it. You really need to test yourself at singles and pairs too. Be totally confident that you’ve got fast reaction times and that you can be accurate consistently.

Then tandem reins… Now I drive coachman style so to me driving with reins in the left hand is just natural but you need to know that for tandem driving… You hold the reins in your left handall of the reins! With the near lead rein on top of the index finger and the off lead rein between the first and second fingers. The near wheel rein goes between these two fingers too but underneath the off lead rein, and then the off wheel rein goes between the second and third fingers. All four reins are then held firmly in the palm of your hand by the little finger and the thumb is pressed on to the top rein.

Control of the reins requires the greatest dexterity and flexibility with your fingers and wrist, particularly when turning and any problems with that and you might as well forget it! A lot of tandem drivers pack up as they get older and their reaction time becomes slower and their mobility not quite as good as it once was.

For tandem the rule after you’ve absolutely mastered long reining the single horse and got each of the two absolutely perfectly voice obedient and impeccable is to get to a reining machine and practice rein handling technique for tandem. This needs to be perfected so that you get totally used to the feel of all those reins in one hand and you don’t ever need to look down at your hand to see what’s happening and what’s where.

Then to turn you take loops which you hold under your thumb.

Your right hand holds the whip and as Goodhors said your use of the whip needs to be good and particularly if you’re in a situation where the leader can’t hear you. This is a lady I taught to drive decades ago. It’s a good demonstration of that happening:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtkH5h7nasg&feature=related

You have to remember that the lead horse is totally free at the front and it’s VERY hard to keep it straight. It’s got nothing to do that at all… No shafts, no other horse NOTHING. Not like a single, not like a pair, not like a team of four. Nothing to stop it going one way or the other. It’s REALLY difficult to keep the horse going in a straight line let alone turn it!

Your leader has to be the most confident and forward going horse to take the lead AND it’s got to be obedient and be prepared to listen to what you want. If it’s not driving out as a single confidently and not been really tested as a single, I’d say don’t think about putting it as a leader.

Often leaders in teams of 4 make good tandem leaders… but even then not always because it’s very different for the horse not having it’s mate next to it.

A tandem driver has to have his wits about him always. You can’t relax your concentration ever. I well remember another one of my “funny” mishaps doing horse driving trials with a tandem. I got my rights and lefts muddled when cantering through a hazard and gave a left rein command and a RIGHT voice command. There was a parting of the waves in front of me. The leader listened to my voice and went right and the wheeler went left and the wood pole we were supposed to be going round went straight between the horses and smashed into me and the carriage!

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:slight_smile: I haven’t been on the Chron for six months! We got sidetracked selling our house and now, buying a cute smaller cottage in the village, but only .4 miles from our farmland. Built in 1860, it’s a character in itself.

Anyhoo, we’ve been riding the two Haflingers only this year and haven’t driven much due to the above paragraph. But, they are young and we can still plan on driving again next year.

I did get a book and the close up photos of the rein handling is daunting. Good news is that hubby is more involved in the pony thing as promised. :winkgrin: so we will be two against two. :wink: