OK, how about “given law”?
I think leveret was covered - baby hare. But then what’s a “form”?
OK, how about “given law”?
I think leveret was covered - baby hare. But then what’s a “form”?
Is given law when you’re allowed to do something, say given permission by the Master to do something that generally wouldn’t be allowed? That applies to people, though. Is it hounds, too? Like my 17yo beagle is given law to sleep on any piece of furniture she wants. The young Shepherd pup is not.
I’ll let someone else answer “Form.”
And what’s a “puss”? Keep it clean!
Given law is when you allow the fox a head start before you run it - in the name of fairness.
Form: hint - it’s to do with leverets! Just like puss
You’ve rarely heard it because it’s incorrect!
That would be because it’s incorrect.
It’s only an earth of foxes when they’re at home!
What are you doing if you “Put to” ?
Form is a hare’s lair.
Puss is a hare - I think.
to put to… would be hitching up the wagon that catersun is riding around in BEHIND all of the action… sniff looks like I missed a fun round of trivia… Please toon back in at 5pm Eastern Standard Time NEXT Tuesday… Thankyou All and Have a Good Night.
Yeah, sure. Keep trying. You’re about as successful with this as with your other comments. Now, mon petit, you are to be ignored like any other chien de cabot.
Xanthoria: thanks for the “given law” def. I’m sure you know badger pie, too.
Ooh - here’s an old one: Warrantable (as applied to game).
Quarry fit to be hunted (as in stag hunting)
[QUOTE=Anne FS;2786797]
Xanthoria: thanks for the “given law” def. I’m sure you know badger pie, too.[/QUOTE]
I don’t! What on earth…??
[QUOTE=Equibrit;2786843]
Quarry fit to be hunted (as in stag hunting)[/QUOTE]
Yes! Exactly.
Badger pie is a hound color, similar to a badger’s coloring, and is a mix of yellow, brown, white, gray, and black hairs. “Pie” because it’s often pied - iow, patches of the badger color are on the hound.
Since you don’t hear too much about badgers anymore (unless you read Wind in the Willows or are a University of Wisconsin fan) I googled to find a photo of the yellowy kind of coat color. This is the best I could find this morning:
That would be characteristic of a hound with Fell type breeding in his background, not the more typical smart square “Peterborough” type of hound. You could also include “hare pie”.
Ahhhh - that’s why I’m not familiar with that hound color. I have not seen such hounds in the US. You know - I don’t even think I’ve seen such hounds at hound shows. I’ll have to think on it.
Did you two belong to the same hunt or something?
So here’s an easy hound question. (on this side of the pond)
What are the names of the 3 lines the modern American foxhound has descended from?
(cut me a break on grammar - it’s too early in the am for me to make sense.)
let me try…
WhOA! Jswan is soooooo intellectuable!!
I’ll try…Walker, July, Trigg, bloodhound and some danged ole English hounds I’m sure! I know the first imported pack was Robert DeLaBrookes that hunted the eastern shore of the Chesapeake bay (now Maryland/Virginia). I doubt the local indians had any hounds we can lay claim to being decendants! The modern DeLaBrooke hounds carry on the tradition! But I also recall our modern hounds have some kinda French hound too…yep…got mention the French!! I think modern French stag hounds look a lot like current American hounds.
I read somewhere that DelaBrooke also imported his native red foxes to that area so they spread out all over the eastern north america originally from there! Cool!
So much for that.
Shoulda known better to ask a question about American hounds with Wateryglen around. She’s a bit of an American Hound groupie.
Yes, July, Trigg and Walker.
All the real foxhunters must be out hunting today - so I’ll ask another hound question in the hope that when they get back, they’ll chime in.
What is a cat footed hound?
Well, since I’m stuck at work I’ll answer the cat foot question.
It’s a good thing.
Nice tight, round, well-knuckled foot, like a cat’s foot is (not those sad declawed specimens whose poor feet are no longer their God-given shape), but a real cat foot.
Cat foot as opposed to a hare foot.
Yup!
American Hound WORSHIPPER!!!
But…I’m not up on their histories tho’. I think, just think, that they descended from blood hound and somethng crosses. English? French?
And the Walker, July’s, Triggs are really just regional versions of these mixed breed hounds. Walker was the name of a famous breeder? Wasn’t he in the Rappahannock area? And Julys are from the Georgia area?
Anyone?
Either way, I’m sad about how many american packs have gone crossbred.
Interesting website; http://fasdawg.tripod.com/history.html
Pilfered text;
The July strain came into prominence in Georgia. This strain was preceded by the Birdsong Hounds, native Georgia Hounds, the Henry Hounds from Virginia and Maryland hounds from Howard County, Maryland. In 1858, Mr. Nimrod Gosnell shipped a male hound to Colonel Miles G. Harris of Sparta, Georgia. This hound was named July for the month in which he arrived. This hound was outstanding and others of this strain were imported. July was crossed on the Birdsong and Henry Hounds. George J. Garrett, Col. Gil F. Birdsong, Miles G. Harris and Capt. Dick Baxter were probably the founding breeders of this strain. At one time, this strain was called July-Maryland. This strain, as exists today, is different in conformation from the Walker Hounds.
The Trigg strain was founded by Col. Haiden Trigg of Kentucky. His aim was to breed a hound with a good coarse voice; black, white and tan blanket-backed; with white points. He crossed Walkers, July, Birdsong and other strains to arrive at his ideal foxhound. After his death, the strain decreased in popularity, but in recent years, has made a strong comeback and is quite popular today. They have big voices and are close track runners.
Are they not just having a “bloodline refresher” - after all they always have been crossbreds, haven’t they? I know a bunch of American blood has gone the other way across the pond to freshen things up there. It’s an ongoing process; improving your bloodlines to suit your needs.
I have a great book called Hunting Hounds. It’s not a foxhunting (english style) book - it’s just an oldish book on all sorts of American Hounds.
Well worth having in one’s library (anyone interested in scent hounds - not just foxhunting)
It even mentions the Bywater strain - which has always been an enigma to me and I could never find out as much detail as I could on the July Walker and Trigg lines.