Truck and gooseneck questions

I’m getting ready to buy a truck and having always had bumper pull trailers, will now have something that can tow a gooseneck. But I have zero experience with them. So here are some probably very basic Qs!

If I get a gooseneck hitch on the truck, can I still use the bed to haul loads of gravel, sand, etc for my business? Or does it get stuck in the hitch? or is the hitch easy to remove?

Similarly, what kind of tool box or ladder rack can be put on a truck that tows a gooseneck?

Long or short bed for gooseneck towing?

What else?

I went from a bumper pull to a gooseneck several years ago, and don’t think I could go back!

The gooseneck is so much easier to back, and smoother to tow. Plus I love the extra storage space.

I have an F-250 with the 6 3/4’ bed and crew cab. It works well for me because it’s not too tight on the turns and I wanted the crew cab space for dogs, gear and friends (yes, probably in that order :slight_smile:)

I prioritized the crew cab and didn’t do the 8’ bed because of the extra cab length. Your priorities might be different. I have heard that a short bed and gooseneck can be challenging going for tight turns but don’t have any personal experience.

I got the B+L gooseneck hitch installed after market. You can flip it if needed so you have a completely flat bed to haul in.

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Me, too, and I love it. A lot!!!

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Depends on the hitch. Mine is welded to the frame, so when I haul loose material, whether shavings or mulch, I put a plastic cup on top of the ball and wrap that with a plastic bag, just to keep the ball from getting so gross and the stuff" coated with grease.

There are other hitches that can flip over, so you’re left with a smooth bed. I’m sure there are other kinds as well. But given you can protect a welded ball, you can pretty much do anything. You get creative with a welded ball. We’ve put hay rounds and squares in, 4x8 sheets of plywood, endless pieces of large furniture, and more

it depends on the length of your bed, and how deep the GN part is in front of the hitch

I have a long bed which is just endlessly useful for so many other things (like being able to put 2 1000lb rounds in it), and didn’t think I’d be able to attach a GN with a regular bed BUT, apparently now there are extenders to move the GN back, while still having its weight in the proper place, so the GN part doesn’t hit the cab of the truck.

You really don’t want a short bed (4’). Regular (6’) or long (8’)

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I have an extended cab with a long (8’) bed that I converted to a flatbed a few years ago after the box rusted out. I pull a gooseneck with a flat front so a shorter bed is more likely to cause a problem.

A friend has a 6 3/4’ bed, but her gooseneck has a V front so the shorter bed isn’t a problem.

Also, watch the bed height and make sure there is enough clearance for the sides under the gooseneck.

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This. I have a Ram 2500 with a short bed and have had to do some tight maneuvers. My trailer has a V front and I’ve not had any issues.

I do know someone that has damaged their truck bed a bit due to not having enough clearance at the sides. It’s was a Hart trailer and I think it was due to this taper or gusset thing that it has behind the hitch.

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Ideal world? I would have a long bed and a hitch that you can flip over when you are not hauling and need to load stuff in the bed especially furniture, gates, fencing panels, etc. I had a long bed when I had a goose neck. If I were infinitely rich I would go back to a long bed truck and goose neck in a heart beat; but , life is what it is and I now get by fine with a tag along and short bed truck. The flip over hitch was worth every penny. The truck (long bed, F250) still lives '96 model and that hitch has saved my behind so many times (son now owns the truck but Mom gets to borrow whenever needed).

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I have this ball and it is the absolute best thing ever. You can remove the ball and the safety chain hooks with one hand. They do leave small open holes but when I bought my truck with the holes already drilled for the gooseneck ball, they popped caps over them that you could replace if you wanted.

https://www.bwtrailerhitches.com/product/oem-gooseneck-ball-and-safety-chain-kit

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I have a single cab long bed F250 now…had the F250 with the cab and knocked the window out once LOL. You can put stuff in the bed just cover the ball area even if you have one that drops in. I find it so much easier to haul the gooseneck but crawling in the back to complete the hookup is getting challenging the older I get!

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No on the ladder rack, unless it’s entirely different design that I am unaware of.

Yes on the toolbox, recommend a low profile one.

I have the flip over B&W hitch, have hauled gravel and such many times. I try to put a super small tarp or something in the bed to stop the fines working their way in there, but as long as you keep it lubed up it shouldn’t be an issue.

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Hauling a gooseneck is much smoother and more stable than hauling a bumper pull and much easier to back.

If if was an option, I would go with a goose neck in a hot minute.

As far as hooking up goes, it’s easier on my back and knees to get up in the bed to hook the gooseneck than it is to bend over to hitch the bumper pull. YMMV.

I have an F-250 with a 6/3/4 bed and have never had a problem. I don’t miss the longer bed.

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I have 2 crew cabs. One short bed and one long bed.
One has a removable ball, and it’s a pita so I never do. The other has a flip over one which is great.
With the (not) removable one, if I’m getting stuff, I take a couple lengths of 4x4 and put them in front of and behind the ball and that takes care of it . (Like drywall or something like that. Otherwise I just work around it. If it’s hay I don’t worry about it .
Yes much easier to back up a gooseneck.
As far as the back window only broke out one when I first got my first GN like 30 years ago, but that was because I wasn’t paying attention .
Pay attention when backing and its not an issue.

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Not savvy enough to comment on length of truck bed, but I have a 2018 Silverado 1500 crew cab with the box that would be considered “standard” - I believe it’s 5’3” as per the spec sheet on the truck. I’ve never had a problem with the turning radius with my gooseneck. I love backing it up, it’s incredible how much easier it is than our bp dump trailer.

My hitch is probably considered “old school”. It’s two rails that are bolted into the frame that a plate with the ball gets put onto, held in with pins. I’ve had this hitch through two trucks, so 8 years now, and we’ve really only pulled the ball out a couple times. The rails prevent my bed from being truly flat, but the rails aren’t very high and I’ve never had a problem. I can grab a picture this afternoon of what it looks like if you’re interested.

A good friend bought a GN, and had a different style of hitch put in. In theory it’s super slick - it has a pin you pull from underneath the wheel well to remove the entire ball to which you get your flat truck bed back. My husband was even eying up changing out our hitch to that style. However, the dealership that installed this hitch was very clear to her that the ball can’t be left installed for a length of time or else it will get seized in place and be impossible to remove. I personally don’t want to have to add another step (install ball) every time I trailer, even though it is a relatively quick step, and because of that we’ll just keep our current set up.

To note about a toolbox or ladder rack for your truck, I can’t imagine anything fitting when you have your trailer attached, but maybe someone else has a recommendation that will help.

And lastly, on a side note, have a good thought about what sort of tonneau cover you’ll put on the truck. I was very against getting the very popular trifold style because I still wanted to see out my back window and not have to fully remove the cover everytime I hauled. I ended up with a roll up style that works well.

I probably have the same hitch that your friend has, and yeah, if you leave it for a longgg time, it is more difficult to remove. Not impossible, but it can take some lubricant and a bit of banging from the underside. I don’t flip mine that often and I’ve left it for close to a year and it was fine. It was difficult when we bought the truck, but who knows how long the previous owner didn’t use it for.

I second the roll up style tonneau cover if you’re going to have one.

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Glad to hear the concern of the dealership isn’t totally unfounded then. I keep calling it a “dealership” but they are technically a truck accessories company that specialize in hitches. They are the place to go in our area and really know their stuff. I imagine they’ve seen it happen more than once so give a slightly exaggerated warning to their customers which I totally get.

I also wonder how much the environment plays a part in this issue. We have lots of salt put down on our roads in the winter and it’s tough on vehicles over the years.

Yeah, I would think that environment could be a contributing factor for sure.

If a choice, another vote for GN, best safest all around and smoother for horses.
We have a short bed, 5’ 6" that pulls fine, never had trouble turning, has the flip over ball that you pull a handle from the driver’s side over the back wheel.
We rarely have to turn it over, most any we haul fits fine with the ball there.

Repeating, be sure the sides of the truck are low enough for your GN top to make it when over a ditch or very uneven ground.
Another important point, don’t forget to drop your tailgate before pulling on after unhooking!
A friend did, once, said never again, had to replace the bent tailgate.

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My friend has a shorter bed P/U and has broken the rear window of her truck 4 times. Her trailer has a square front so no surprise there. If you go with a shorter bed, get the gooseneck extender to avoid this scenario.

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Here is my setup on my 6 3/4 F250. I recently added this slim low profile tool box, which still holds a lot of roadside emergency stuff. For a work truck I probably would go long bed though. I end up taking the toolbox out when I want to haul a load of junk to the dump or whatever.

ETA: I absolutely love how stable this rig is on the road vs. when I had a bumper pull with the same truck. I disagree on it being easier to back up though!

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Same on the backing. I’m way better with a bumperpull, I hate the delay.

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