Turning trees into firewood

We have tons of trees around here that need to be turned into firewood. The way I figure it, that requires:

Chainsaw to cut into lengths

Some sort of tool to split wood into firewood

Potentially some sort of kindling tool

I found this nifty thing for kindling.

I’ve also seen log splitters like this one here that seem fairly reasonably priced and safe?

Does anyone have recommendations or thoughts on these tools or others?

And how about a chain saw for the chain saw neophyte? Mr S will be handling, most likely, and he’s a fairly adept sort of person, but something that’s easy to use would be best.

Buy a decent chain saw. Stihl perhaps. Buy safety equipment helmet visor and definitely chain saw pants. Full pants not just chaps. Take course from someone that knows what theyre doing. Buy a 22 ton log splitter. Split carefully. We use chainsaw to cut up cedar rails for kindling and then use a hatchet to split ut for kindling. Be very careful in all parts of this process. Know of many people who have been hurt using chainsaws log splitters and hatchets.

Buy a 22 ton log splitter

These are nearly a grand. Is the little one I linked above really insufficient? The reviews are pretty good…

You will also need a place to store the wood and let it dry. A woodshed. Or a wood rack covered with a tarp.

In my very limited experience, it IS possible to split wood with a wedge and a sledge hammer or maul after you learn how to do it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splitting_maul

We’ve had ours for 6 years. We heat our house (3200 sq. ft old farmhouse) with wood. We go thru 4 to 5 cords per year. This splitter takes a beating and keeps on ticking. The neighbours borrow it as well. It’s a great investment.

You will also need a place to store the wood and let it dry. A woodshed. Or a wood rack covered with a tarp.

In my very limited experience, it IS possible to split wood with a wedge and a sledge hammer or maul after you learn how to do it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splitting_maul
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200621546_200621546
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/category_logging+logging-tools+wedges

I have a Stihl chainsaw but it’s only got a 14 inch bar. It’s YEARS old but is light and easy for an old woman. It has a chain adjustment that doesn’t require a tool which is lovely. https://www.stihlusa.com/products/chain-saws/homeowner-saws/ms180cbe/ However, if you are cutting down a tree with a large diameter it wouldn’t work. Seems to me you’d need at least an 18" saw with more power. With that size in Stihls, I think the chain adjustment will require the special tool that comes with the saw.

I hope you will have access to someone who is willing to sharpen a chainsaw blade for you rather than selling you a new chain every time yours dulls, which will happen frequently. It’s either pay someone to sharpen your blades, which is what I do, or learn to use a chainsaw sharpener yourself.

I would concur on a good quality Stihl chain saw with protective pants.

You might be able to find a place that will sell you a ‘professional’ chain for it which is much sharper than what the general public gets. Where I came from I was told almost all the firefighters (woodland fire types) use Stihls.

You also need to look at the wood by type of tree and see if it is worth cutting g to burn. Some trees, like box elder, have so little heat value that you expend more energy to cut and stack it than you will get from burning it.

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We do have a place to store.

I’m really looking for an easier method than by brute physical force a la the wedge and hammer. Too old and broken for that :wink:

Corby, really not sure we’re ready for the $1k wood splitter. This is more of a hobby than a profession, YKWIM? If the little splitter really won’t do it, then we could consider, but it does have good reviews.

Any recommendations on a specific model chainsaw?

We bought the $1k log splitter because wood is our primary heat source. When you’re splitting multple vords of wood powerful is the way to go. We’re in ontario and winters are cold and nasty. We heat our house for less than $1000 a year. We buy some wood, cut our own and use a small amount of oil. If we were heating with oil the annual cost would probably be about $4000. Wood splitter was a good investment.

Heating with wood is vastly different than a mood setting fire in a hearth.

:winkgrin:We’ve heated with wood for almost 20 years. We’ll burn 3-4 cords of wood per season. Seems like a lot for the south but we enjoy a warm home. Heating your home with wood is not an easy task…Especially in Connecticut. It’s more a passion and commitment. You didn’t mention a woodstove or insert in your list of requirements. I would add to the list a tractor to handle the wood too. I am about two years ahead of the current season. Dry seasoned wood is easy to start and burns well. Barely seasoned wood is an exercise in frustration and chimney cleaning.

Wait until April or May to buy one…splitters will be as cheap as they get off season.

Or…get all your wood cut to length then hire someone with a splitter to come for the day and do your pile.

The site’s quote function still isn’t working for me… Simkie the splitter you linked to shows an already split log on it. This splitter is meant for straight grained easily split wood. A knotty chunk of hardwood will stop it cold…leaving it jammed.

Perhaps I’ve been lead astray by previous posts… are you considering using wood for primary heating or just an occasional fire in the hearth ?

There was a fireplace installed in one of my houses. Somehow or other it has a metal plate in the back. It sucks air from the space behind the fireplace at the bottom, heats it on the plate and blows it out through top. It provides heat to the living space behind the fireplace. It has no fan and no moving parts, but we were able to survive quite nicely during an ice storm that meant no electricity for weeks. The house is all electric, so without the fireplace, there was no possibility of heat

What previous posts, hoss?

I’m really looking for a “hobbyists” set of tools for turning downed trees into firewood. We have a tractor. We have two wood furnaces. Wood will not be the primary heat source. This is secondary heat, having a pretty fire and a way to clean up our property.

:slight_smile:

We wood. More than I ride sometimes. We just got a decent woodsplitter after years of doing it by hand. Out little dinky one was more of a hassle than wedge was honestly.
Stihl 16 inch here. Handles nearly everything.

…or you could always put your horses to work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDhKBDmGdl4

Check out the DR Power equipment splitter - it’s more than your little one, but they make good products for the person who wants a little outdoors but not full on FARMER.

Our walk behind mower is indispensable and going on 18 years old.

The Wen electric one just looks like it wouldn’t stand up to hardwood or wood that isn’t already split. The demo tape shows a bunch of punky logs.

Using the right tools makes any job more fun and less frustrating - and since you are doing for the experience and enjoyment, spend a little more for a better tool.

Having lived in an off grid cabin in the Mts of Co for several years I got quite good felling trees dragging out, bucking and splitting. With only pine available it took 8+ cords to get through a winter using an Ashley wood stove in a cabin with little to no insulation. It’s only “romantic” when read about in a book or watching a movie. The lifestyle took a LOT of work. Especially not have “running water”, indoor plumbing.

I have several saws of different sizes. My Stihl 039 20" bar is my favorite and go to saw. I think the same is called the Farm Boss. It’s a decent size saw with enough power/torque to chew threw oak. Not a saw I would recommend for a beginner. But smaller saws would make the job arduous and time consuming.

A smaller “limbing saw” is handy to have. When the tree is on the ground a bit easier to go around it cutting off the limbs. If you are thinking/wanting to put up a serious amount of wood for the winter having a tractor with a Fel to attach pallet forks to is pretty key IMO. And a wagon to carry the logs to the “bucking station”. Bucking the logs into firewood, splitting size on site works but can be slow and time consuming. Takes it toll on the chain also. Pretty hard not to dig the tip into the ground hitting stones from time to time.

Much easier and faster pile all the logs in one place. Built or buy a bucking stand. There lots of different types/styles, pre-made or homemade. Do a search key words firewood bucking stand. I guarantee you will get lots of hits, pictures and U-tub vids.

Felling or just cutting up downed trees is an art. It is NOT as straight forward as it looks. Downed trees being held up off the ground by its limbs creates a tricky situation. There is a fair amount of “physics” going on. The sawyer needs to have a decent understanding of “cause and effect” when sizing up what limbs should be cut, how, where and in what order. Other wise the tree can and will roll in an undesired direction. ALWAYS have an exit plan.

When felling, limbing or bucking up the log one needs to keep in mind “pressure points” on the bar. You want to make sure the weight of the body of the tree/limbs is a position that the cut widens and doesn’t collapse in, pinching the bar. If done wrong and even the “pros” get it wrong at times a pinched bar can be a total PITA. Especially if spare saw is not available. This is where the use of wedges can come into play depending on the size of the tree and other factors.

Dropping/felling trees big or small is an art form also. Especially in a “crowded” conditions. It is very satisfying dropping a tree in exactly the direction desired so as not to get hung up on the surrounding trees.

Dropping dead standing trees can be tricky. The top rots out pretty quickly and parts can break off during the process and or felling. Hence the name “widow makers”. The center of the trunk tends to rot faster also making it unpredictable as to how and when it will fall, give way when making wedge, front and back cuts. Even older “live” tree maybe hollow in the center. Experienced sawyers carry a “mall” a mini sledge hammer and pound around the trunk and listen to ascertain if it is on the solid side of things or hollow. And plan accordingly. A decent size tree that suddenly breaks away while making the felling cuts can and will jump/spring back quite a distance in any direction while falling. This is when having instant reflexes, self preservation comes into play. Basically drop, let go of the saw and run.

SHARP chains regardless of the size of the saw is key to making the job easier and safer. Had sharping is an art and take a fair amount of practice. If done wrong at the wrong angles it will not get very sharp and or the saw/bar will not cut straight threw the log. It will “wander”. Total PITA. Files with a guide bar work well enough with practice. I have a Dremel type sharpener that runs off a 12 volt battery, truck, tractor or ATV. The appropriate size sharpening stones are replaceable but are not cheap. I just use it for quick clean up. I have several chains on hand for big jobs and just swap out when a chain is not throw big “chunks”. Sharp chains cut like a hot knife through butter. Well worth the investment. My local chain sharpener is quite reasonable well and worth the expense to just drop them off. They are ground to factory specs. Takes quite a bit of time to sharpen 1 chain correctly let alone several by hand.

As to log splitters the cheap ones are just that cheap and slow compared to what can be rented. I wouldn’t bother buying one new or used. Most rental yards have good ones. If you have a tractor with good hydraulic outs a decent used 3 point hitch can be had for reasonable money. No engine or hydraulics are needed which cuts down on the price. Need to keep an eye on the used market because they cut snapped up pretty quickly if it is not a cheapo.

I enjoy splitting small loads by hand. Its an acquired skill, sizing up the log, knowing exactly where the weak point is, swinging of the ax and hitting the bulls eye, sweet spot every time. Poetry in motion. As the saying goes, making fire wood heats twice. But it is better two split wood when its cold out to take advantage of this. Not nearly as enjoyable on a hot humid day.

When I lived by wood heat and had to put up 8+ cords it was a lot of work. But at least I had a chain saw. But split everything by hand. No funds to rent a log spliter. I would think about the old days when they had to do this entirely with an ax and hand saw. If you were lucky to have a partner at least being able to use a double ended saw made the process a bit quicker and less labor intensive. Anybody that thinks they were the “good ole days” never lived in the “good ole days”. It was all about survival and it took a lot of work to survive.

I had a friend who asked me to help him build a small log cabin with nothing but hand tools. I said only if I could use my chain saws. He wanted the “experience”. I said I already had enough of the “experience” to last me a life time. If the pioneers had access to chain saw I promise you they would have used them.

When the times comes to replacing our oil furnace I want to replace with a multi-fuel type. Wood, gas, pellets. A lot of the farms around here have the “stand alone” type multi-fuel fuel furnace.

We have several wonderful big old fireplaces. I love looking/staring at a wood fire. Most people do. Heats the room nicely. But they are VERY inefficient when the rest of the house is heated by a furnace. Depending on things the can and do “suck out” the costly heat put out by the furnace. A open fire needs to draw a lot of air in and up the chimney. Inserts or stoves are a much more efficient.

As usual with most of my posts, comments I am sure I provided a LOT more information, details then needed, Lol. Just another one of my small tutorials. A little nostalgia from my “pioneering” days.

Snow storms over, sun is out and I am very late feeding a lot of horses.

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Definitely get a Stihl or Husqvarna chainsaw. The model will depend on the size, type, and amount of wood you’re cutting.

You’ll also want some sort of sharpener, unless you want to run to the hardware store constantly to have them sharpen for you. If you have to apply any sort of pressure when cutting, it’s time to sharpen! All it takes is hitting some dirt and you’re dead in the water until you sharpen.

I think you’ll want something larger than the splitter you posted. This site has a nice reference guide for the size of splitter you’d need based on the type and size of wood you’re splitting.
http://www.woodsplitterdirect.com/choose-your-splitter/

You could probably get away with just renting a splitter for a while. You can do all of your prep work and have everything ready for a marathon splitting/stacking day.