Uckele CocoSun oil?

[RhythmNCruise]

Has anyone tried the CocoSun oil from Uckele? I’d always been tempted to try the CocoSoya, but have held off and ultimately I decided to pull my guy off any and all kinds of soy anyway. Then I saw they make CocoSun, which is coconut oil and sunflower oil.

I just got it last week and have been putting one squirt (so…an ounce, I guess?) in his soaked timothy pellets and supplements AM and PM. I haven’t really noticed much of anything yet and it’s awfully expensive, but he does suffer from skin itchies and such, and I thought an oil might help that. In fact, I haven’t seen him itching hardly at all since I started feeding it…and he had already started with the unseasonably warm days and shedding. Hmmm.

Just wondered if anyone else has tried it.

[JB]

If he suffers from skin issues, is thee a reason you’re not using flax oil for much more beneficial Omega 3, over the 6 and 9 in the other oils?

[RhythmNCruise]

Oh, he gets a cup of flax a day too. He’s been getting flax for, well, most of his life. It hasn’t seemed to help his skin issues. I did recently switch though. He’s been on Omega Horseshine forever and I switched to Manna Pro’s Simply Flax. There are things in the OHS that he just didn’t need (he gets KIS Trace forage balancer for all his vits/mins etc).

Just wondering if anyone had tried CocoSun. I hadn’t seen anything about it on here so thought I’d ask.

[JB]

Gotcha. I didn’t even know Uckele had that new mix. I can’t imagine it’s any better or worse than most others. It’s not going to be high in Omega 3 at all, it will be high in Omega 6 though. But at some point, oil is oil when it comes to what it might do for the skin especially since you have the flax covered. You could see if replacing the cup of flax, with flax oil, helps. That way you keep the Omega 3 and add more oil/fat, though I don’t know the cost comparison of just flax oil, vs whole/ground flax + CocoSun.

[RhythmNCruise]

Yeah. I just kind of bought it on a whim (a $60 whim, but it should last a while). It’s so hard to find pure flaxseed oil (or I thought it was, I now see that Ultra Cruz carries some). Prior to finding that, everything I saw also had soybean oil in it. I’m trying to steer clear of soy just to see if that helps his skin too. In all honesty, he’s allergic to the world (guessing, he hasn’t been tested). Once the bugs and grass take over, he’ll probably be scratching a lot. Though I swear he’s been worse since being on soy-based feeds at his previous barns. He was on all forage prior to that and had some itchies but nothing as bad as he’s had over the past three years eating soy-based feeds and balancers.

I’m rambling. Sorry. LOL

[JB]

FlaxenFlow is another flax oil that comes in a handy pouch, with a spout, so you’re not constantly exposing the oil to air.

Soy sensitivities are real! And while food allergies are really about proteins (at least mostly, i can’t swear ALL), oils SHOULDN’T be a problem because no protein. But yet they are for some horses.

[Tarlo_Farm]

I loved the stuff. Used to use it all the time with my older horses when they got hard to keep weight on them. The only bad side was the dogs INHALED the manure then.

[RhythmNCruise]

Hmmm…I like the look of that Flaxen Flow. I can order it from TSC. I may give it a try once the CocoSun is gone. I’d like to be able to have one fat source instead of the ground flaxseed and the oil, so maybe I can just get the Flaxen Flow and stop the flaxseed. One less container and step in the feeding process!

[RhythmNCruise]

Ha! Well, my dog doesn’t come out to the barn anymore, but he loved manure enough already, so I’m glad he won’t be around the new and improved manure, LOL!

[RhythmNCruise]

@JB I just realized what you said above about oil not being a concern. Would this mean that soybean OIL probably wouldn’t cause my dude any issues like the other forms of soy that he’s gotten in commercial feeds and balancers?

ETA: And to be fair…I’m not sure soy DOES cause him issues. But he seems less reactive, more agreeable to grooming, and less itchy since I’ve pulled him off all soy. SEEMS that way.

[JB]

@RhythmNCruise

@JB I just realized what you said above about oil not being a concern. Would this mean that soybean OIL probably wouldn’t cause my dude any issues like the other forms of soy that he’s gotten in commercial feeds and balancers?

Since MOST food allergies are about a protein in the food, and since there is no (or some teeny tiny amount of) protein in oil, most animals are fine with the oil of a food they are allergic to in its whole part.

It’s just not a guarantee.

[RhythmNCruise]

I see.
I’ll just stay away from soy since there are other choices. I hate to jinx it by saying it aloud, but he really seems to be doing so much better since removing all soy. Maybe he’s also just decided to settle down at our new boarding barn (3 months in), but this is a horse that pretty much didn’t settle in at one place for 2 years! He settled into another place pretty easily but wasn’t ever 100% chill while there for a year. When he came to this new place, he was stark-raving mad. Such a ball of anxiety and hypervigilance. Literally flipping his sh!t over everything and anything. We’re talking bug-eyed, dragon-snorting, trembling, heart beating so hard I could see it. I felt so sorry for him. And this was on Smart Calm Ultra AND MagRestore. Both of which had always helped him. He was blowing right through them.

Now some of his change is definitely settling in. But I can just tell that he’s got a softer look in his eye. It’s like where before he was always looking for things to freak out about, now he sighs and just can’t be that bothered by it. Even if he does get spooked it’s like, “OMG–okay, whatever.”

Which is much more the kind of horse he was back when I had my own place and he ate NO SOY. Imagine that. Huh.