Hope I have finally found the right place to post , ok so I have this horse have had him for 2 years now , I bought him from a slaughter yard at then only 3 years old , he had been trialled as a buck jumper which is where the trauma began, it was then bilieved that he went through 3 other super expirienced horse people who tried to “fix him” however without any luck the 4th person sent him to sales and instructed he is dangerous and only to go for slaughter however I bought him from the slaughter yard , I was warned not to even get in float with him to get him off because he might hurt me, however the lol in his eyes told me this was not the case , and from day 1 I have never had an issue with him my children handle him we started retraining together with my kids learning along the way . However due to the fact that I was pregnant at the time I become to fat to continue myself , he went to an amazing trainer however spent the first few weeks striking , rearing , charging biting kicking , u name it he did it , however this was all out of fear , eventually after the trainer has him working nicely and fear free I was told he was the hardest horse he had ever had to work with and still deemed him dangerous if he ever fell into the wrong hands again , I got him home and again he was always beautiful to me and my kids , however anyone else who approached him he would attack them try bite them wtc everything he has done previously , , either way after being criticised for having him round kids etc and all the rest we still went on our merry way , some months later I sadly become to sick to look after him and I reluctantly was convinced to rehome him to lady who claimed 36 years expirienced , forevermore home etc, howbeee a week later I got a call from her saying he was angry , scared has attacked some of her horses the dogs attempted to hurt her children etc , so he ended up coming back to me , however I’m wondering if there is anyone else out there who has horses like mine , and does anyone have any explination as to why my horse is so amazing for me and. My children but will attack the rest of the world and fear everyone ?? To be fair I have understood him from day 1 and can read him like a book , I do not bilieve any horse without an actual neurological problem or some kind of brain damage , is not fixable , hence I do not bilieve in dangerous horses if one understands horses communication , I am really Intrested on some opinions on this and see if anyone shares my view etc or can answer any of my questions
I’m so curious as I get contacted by people I do not even know who have heard about me and my horse and ask how I do it but apparently my answer being … that I understand his communication , is not a good enough answer for them ???
I’d put him down. I know you love him, but you don’t have some magic connection. More like you let him do whatever the hell he wants, and some day you might need him to actually do what he’s told, and you’ll have a bronc on your hands too.
is this horse up to date on farrier care and vaccinations?
Posterity
If he was supposed to go to slaughter then that’s where he should of went. Put him down before he seriously hurts someone. There is slaughter for a good reason to do away with the mean dangerous horses. Plus people in other countries like horse meat and the usa keeps them well supplied. There’s truck loads of horses heading to mexico weekly.
No matter what you might believe there are some horses in the world who are “outlaws.” They might be born that way or might be made that way. In any event they do exist. Once identified they belong in a can. It is the height of irresponsibility to expose others to such animals. If you are exposing your children to such an animal you are foolish beyond words.
Assuming this is not a troll the horse needs to be put down. If sending it to slaughter offends then have your vet do it and dispose of the carcass.
G.
I find it odd that the title of this post seemed very succinct and well written and then the post was an absolute grammar, typing and mystical horse-connected trainwreck. Wasn’t what I expected when I clicked on it at all.
So OP is either a troll or really inexperienced. In case this is a real person:
As much as we all want to believe we have a mystical, super speshul connection with our horses, a well-trained horse will behave for everyone who is a competent handler (ie isn’t beating them or spooking them or whatever). I am making some assumptions, but am guessing the reason your horse behaves for you and “no one” else is that you don’t ask anything of the horse that he doesn’t want to do. He rules the roost, even if you don’t think he does, and other people are asking new, different or harder things from him which he has never had to do before. And he has the personality type to fight rather than fall in line.
The fact that you tolerated him trying to bite, kick etc when other people even approached him tells me that you never enforce rules and boundaries with this horse. I don’t care if this horse was abused in the past and is fearful (which I note you don’t actually know, you are just making excuses for his behavior because it “might” have happened), if he is allowed to bite and strike at people who are approaching him in a non-threatening way he is not a safe horse to be around for anyone, let alone children.
This horse may be beyond repair, but I think that is on you, not on whatever is going on inside his head. If he’s been allowed to get away with murder and not trained and now he is unmanageable, that is on you as his owner. And the kindest thing would be to euthanize rather than risk someone getting hurt–horse or human.
If you have the space and cash to keep an unbroken horse and you can ensure no one gets hurt by him, then you are certainly free to continue to do so.
I realize some people like the thrill of keeping wild animals, for instance tigers in cages. All very well until tiger grabs your arm through the bars, chews it off, and you die ( happened in our region).
However, from what has been said here your tiger horse should not leave the property, go to trainers. Or interact with anyone outside your family for safety and liability reasons.
If you need to rehome have him humanely euthanized instead.
I agree with the other posters that say as long as you aren’t trying to get him to do anything he is probably calm hence your peaceful coexistence.
Striking out at strangers is not normal horse behavior. The happy ones come up for a treat and the nervous ones walk away. A horse whose first response is to stand his ground and attack is unusual and very dangerous. I can’t see how you could train him.
There may be very good horsemanship trainers who could have an effect but you probably don’t have access to anyone at that level of competence.
It’s clear from your post ypu are not an experienced horse person and it is a pity you ended up with a problem horse. There are so many kind, loving, gentle, deserving horses going through the auction pipeline that it’s always sad when they get passed over for a big mistake.
A few paragraphs in your posts would also be appreciated as that is a long chunk of text to read.
In her other post the op talks about how she lets her 18 month old human sit in the horse’s food bowl.
Other post?
Edit to add: Found it. Bumped up an old thread about slaughter.
Hi there I’m not a hundred percent sure if my response is relevant to this post but if not please send me in right direction , ok so I am a loving horse owner of a very special horse , I have had him 2 years he I am my first horse after having a 10 year break with previous 24 years befor then , I’m. It quite sure if I have been living my head under a rock for past 30 years or so howveee this whole dangerous horse thing , and assessments I have trouble understanding this and I had never heard of it until now . Obviously at this point I feel the process is discraceful simply because I am a firm boliever that u less a horse has actual neurological health problems etc u get my drift I do not bilieve and horse is dangerous I do not bilieve on killing off a horse in any way .
i bought my beautiful boy from the slaughter yard 2 years ago after he was deemed to dangerous to ever rehome by a man who was super expirienced with like 40 years behind him , I ignored all warnings from day 1, so far to sate my 18 month old sits on his back and in his food bowel , my children who are 11 and 9 total beginners adore him they handle him and he Ian just beautiful , he was stvwrelt abises and let down by many people previously , he was successfully very well trained by a trainer who said he is the most dangerous ans hardest horse Hebert has ever had to work with , early days included , striking , biting kicking , attacking random people , etc out of fear however I recently ATTEMPTED to rehome him , I told the woman every possibility and it seemed so far fetched to he right she never bilieved me , and within a week of her having him he had attacked her daughter , her dogs , was scared and unhappy and despite her 37 years expirience ahe was afraid of him doing firhwr damge , however my question I should … why from day 1 was I able to have such a beautiful boy , to myself and my children ?? I put it down to lack of understanding , people simply do not understand enough about horses and there communication , that is my final conclusion , fair to say this boy is "my horse " lol however I am
not sire where this page is based etc but I’m actually really Intrested to get som honest opinions. On this and even if anyone has any horses they are sadly thinking of giving up on , I would really like to meet these horses a short I just do not understand , I have always rescued and targeted the horses least likely to find homes or the ones that are said to to dangerous to rehome . Please give me your thoughts and comments .
This is what I dislike about so many of the horse books I grew up reading. It was how the love of a person overcame all the bad traits in the horse and the 2 became of 1 mind and went on to do great things together.
Love does not overcome all and an aggressive, dangerous horse has no place being allowed to live and no place in a home where children are present.
Life is hard and sometimes we need to do what is best for all involved.
Sounds like a anti slaughter person. Like it or not many horses fates are in a slaughter house. Dangerous untrainable horses need to go to slaughter. Id send a horse to Mexico for slaughter in a heart beat…if it was dangerous.
The slaughter industry needs to be in place…whether in USA or Mexico. Horses should be considered livestock not pets. There already being slaughtered so change the classification to livestock.
Oh dear. OP doesn’t really want an answer.
This horse could probably never be successfully rehomed to the level of home that would want him.
A good pro horseman who could maybe wirk with this horse wouldn’t want a done nothing no papers unpredictable back yard renegade. If a pro is going to put the work into a horse they want something with potential and there are lots of OTTB and QH going through the almost free pipeline.
The sort of person who would take on this horse is another backyard owner who despite however many years of horse experience probably doesn’t have any skills for dealing with problem horses and should stick to well broke good citizen horses.
It’s a dilemma. If a horse is a pro ride but doesn’t have pro breeding or scope, or is pro ride with breeding and scope but isn’t sound enough for performance and competition, then there is very little future for them.
If you take on a dangerous horse you need to realize you need to offer a lifetime home because no one else will.
Despite all OP claims about magical connection she is now wanting to rehome her dangerous horse. What happened to the magical bond and winning his trust and everyone else letting him.down?
So this horse that won’t let anyone else approach is being shod every 6 weeks by you or trimmed more often than that by you whilst you are pregnant? You are giving vaccinations supposed to be given by a vet. Yoimu are stitching all of his wounds.
If it was supposed to be put down that is where it should have gone. The horses etc hurt when sold are solely your fault.
As horse trainers it is our duty to turn out a solid citizen so if you get hit by a bus tomorrow the horse has a chance with someone else. You have not fulfilled this duty.
We have an outlaw who was bound for slaughter. He is safe to handle IF he knows you. He isn’t mean, but fearful of strangers. He’s ok with the vet and trimmer. If we don’t outlive him, he’ll be euthanized when we pass.
eta: I wouldn’t dream of trying to sell him.
OP, what happens when the farrier comes, and the vet, and the floater? Those maintenance activities are being done, right? So what does the horse do and how do you handle it? And is the horse gelded? Are you sure?
can you offer the horse a home for the rest of his life where he is protected from others and only handled by you or those he trusts? If so thats fine. If not and it sounds like you have tried to put this horse at other places which hasnt gone well, if you cant provide the forever home, then put him down. No slaughterhouse, none of that crap. Just put him down humanely. At the very least you could live with yourself and you have the moral high road. Not common in todays horse world.
If anything, the OP makes a compelling argument AGAINST slaughter-- because unless you are personally delivering that dangerous horse to Mexico you have absolutely no idea what becomes of it. The OP apparently bought it despite full disclosure of how dangerous it was and now has irresponsibly put the lives of her children and the amazing trainer at risk. Selling a dangerous horse cheaply at an auction means that there is no guarantee it won’t end up being sold and resold until it outruns the dangerous tag and someone well-meaning and innocent ends up with it.
Option 1, keep this horse indefinitely.
Option 2, have him euthanized.
There is no question of selling him, I am actually astonished you sent him to a trainer, and risked someone else’s life.
This isn’t a “pro ride.” That’s not what that phrase means, this is, as my Hungarian friend says, a salami horse.
I wonder if the auction house is/would be liable for selling a horse that was supposed to go to slaughter only.
As an aside: why can’t people euthanize horses instead of sending them to a kill auction!?!? Is the $600 they get from a kill buyer so important?
Wow !!! I thank you all for your opinions and thoughts , some I find quite amusing , others , helpful , however most of you support general opinions of people in the horse industry which I have slowly been learning about , I turned to a forum to get an outsiders view on things , and for books and mystical powers , lol what does that even mean ??? And as for grammar , punctuation , what as issue !!! Clearly my post was quite offensive to a lot of you for some reason ?? A lot of you also misread my post , which to sum it up in simple form for the simple people, the message I was trying to get across was asking if anyone else has a horse like this or has any explination or opinions as to why I have no issues with him in ANYTHING I ASK HIM TO DO, including riding , floating , farrier , vet , etc soemone asked about that , yet when I am NOT present , he seems to be on a rampage , and someone else mentioned about my children , they sit on him get him out paddock lead him , he has no fear , and as someone with over 25 years expirience I know the difference between attitude and fear , either way , again thank you for your opinions , however most of you have supported my personal view of most people in the horse industry .
Cheers all 
Wish u all the best
Dude, knowing that this horse is not safe for other people to handle, you rehomed him. Why? It seems everything you know of him suggested this wouldn’t work: why why why did you do this??
And you seem really very flippant about this, like putting other people at risk is funny.
Cheers, that’s really scheissty behaviour.
