Updated barisone lawsuit 10/29/21 post 851

[Joanne]

This post describes one of the jobs RG did.

[Sdel]

I thought LK called them. That’s what she said she did….multiple times over.

[Joanne]

@Sdel

I thought LK called them. That’s what she said she did….multiple times over.

She said in the post that she called the building inspector and the fire marshal.

The post is still there. I just took a screen shot of it.

[Knights_Mom]

@Sdel

I thought LK called them. That’s what she said she did….multiple times over.

I swear this is getting hard to remember. So who called:

CPS?
SafeSport?

[Angela_Freda]

What LK writes there, that she and RG after repairs to wiring of fire detectors, we’re allowed to stay does not jive with the suit filed against LE.

I know which I believe

[Sdel]

Also seems to contradict with this……

[eggbutt]

Now, now, you know how those pesky lawyers make things up and say whatever comes to mind when suing someone. LK told us they lie so it must be true.

[Equkelly]

@eggbutt

Their relevance is to LK’s lengthy behavior of attacking and harassing others to the point of distraction apparently for no reason other than she enjoys it.

I know that it’s easier for our brains to think of people as “just evil for no reason” but in reality the situations are usually a lot more complex. Confirmation bias is a hell of a drug.

[Knights_Mom]

@Equkelly

@eggbutt

Their relevance is to LK’s lengthy behavior of attacking and harassing others to the point of distraction apparently for no reason other than she enjoys it.

I know that it’s easier for our brains to think of people as “just evil for no reason” but in reality the situations are usually a lot more complex. Confirmation bias is a hell of a drug.

Oddly we have been the ones considering how things came to pass. Examining and discussing motive, probability, logic and how situations became muddied between various players. We’ve offered various scenarios and are questioning everything while literally saying “may justice prevail”.

[CanteringCarrot]

@Inigo-montoya

In the history of the world has anyone been prosecuted for hiring someone to paint their kitchen without checking if the painter was registered with the state?
And as you should be able to figure out these laws pushed by contractor’s lobby are, at their heart, anti immigrant. They’re not on the books to protect the homeowners or make anything safe. They’re on the books to discourage day laborers from getting work.

I have no idea because I’ve never researched such a matter, nor do I know every case tried in the history of the world. However, it is highly unlikely.

I can possibly how they could be anti-immigrant, but at the same time having some level of regulation isn’t the worst thing. One would think that one would have have demonstrate a certain level of competency and carry certain insurances in order to be registered with the state. There may be other requirements as well. If not, then it is sort of a waste to have such a registry.

How is it that laborers can’t get work? Is it impossible for an immigrant to become registered? You said that there is essentially nothing stopping someone from having someone who is unregistered do work in/on their house, so how is it preventing laborers and/or immigrants from getting work?

Genuine questions out of curiosity because it’s something I’m not so familiar with.

[CanteringCarrot]

@Equkelly

@cutter99

You don’t want to read to follow along, but want to be spoon fed everything? Then place judgement on the rest of us? LOL!

Well, okay then!

I HAVE followed a long. I’ve been in and out of these threads for years now. My point is that it’s still impossible for me to know what’s going on because of all the irrelevant BS.

A few people have tried to explain to you who GJ is. As for her being relevant to the case, that opinion seems to vary, and you are free to make up your own mind on that. If you have followed along, you should have a decent grasp of what’s going on. However, you seem too fixated on the “irrelevant BS” and there is some of that, but you can ignore it or sort through it if you care to. If not, then whatever.

I’m not sure why you consistently bash CoTH but still stick around just to insert mean spirited or snide comments. There is valuable info all over CoTH, and there is BS, but I’d rather fixate on the former.

[erinmeri]

@FitzE

I know this is an unpopular statement in the US, but I can tell you that I feel so much more safety and freedom in a no-gun society than in the US. That makes me sad and I don’t say it lightly or with any insult intended. I think people who live there simply don’t know what it is like to live somewhere where you NEVER worry about getting shot. Not by a bad guy with a gun, not by a good guy with a gun, not by an LEO with a gun, just never. It feels so much more free than when I lived in the US.

Not an unpopular opinion amongst my friends… my circle wholeheartedly agrees and laments our lot with regards to gun issues. But I digress. Back to trying to weed through the chaff. Lots to sort through here… see you in a few days. LOL.

[erinmeri]

@3PonyFarm

I am told that to successfully prove the charges, 4 things must be met.

1. The item was a firearm.
2. The firearm was possessed by the defendant.
3. The defendant had the purpose to use it against person or property of another.
4. The firearm was going to be used unlawfully.

I have zero knowledge of NJ law but having served on a jury in an adjacent state in a trial to do with a (non-fatal) shooting, the firearms charges presented also had lesser charges presented as options and in no instance were we asked about purpose or lawfulness of possession, rather the fact of possession and use (which was unlawful) that led to injury and near death. We were given an option to consider a lesser charge, if my memory serves. It was horribly complicated, but nobody argued the possession or use, and ultimately based on the facts and the interpretation of law that the judge presented us, we convicted.

I imagine that the prosecution aims high, but there are lesser charges the jury might consider. I also imagine that some of the caveats are thrown out with the bath water when the crime committed rises to a certain level. But… not a lawyer, just someone fulfilling my civic duty about 50 miles away.

PS, nobody died in my trial, and there was no attempted murder charge, but the defendant got decades.

[erinmeri]

@Knights_Mom

Had LK never posted, threatened or harassed people here and had a clean history of not firing a gun at people as MBs attorneys have claimed in papers or any of the other drama MB attorneys allege then we would not be having these discussions.

Correct me if I am wrong, but on the original thread plenty of people were having “these discussions” when she was still in hospital. Am I wrong? Not excusing her abhorrent behavior, but I do believe that this discussion of her past actions, character and alleged culpability pre-dates her threats to COTH members.

[Sdel]

@erinmeri

Not excusing her abhorrent behavior, but I do believe that this discussion of her past actions, character and alleged culpability pre-dates her threats to COTH members.

The thing is though….her behavior wasn’t limited to COTH….it was all over FB and Twitter. She was threatening random strangers with SS for victim blaming over FB comments.

[Knights_Mom]

@erinmeri

@Knights_Mom

Had LK never posted, threatened or harassed people here and had a clean history of not firing a gun at people as MBs attorneys have claimed in papers or any of the other drama MB attorneys allege then we would not be having these discussions.

Correct me if I am wrong, but on the original thread plenty of people were having “these discussions” when she was still in hospital. Am I wrong? Not excusing her abhorrent behavior, but I do believe that this discussion of her past actions, character and alleged culpability pre-dates her threats to COTH members.

I went to her FB page after the shooting out of curiosity and saw a lot of stuff that was outside the norm. Then stories of behavior came out. So I went back and really looked. By then the sanitizing of FB had begun so I screen shot what I found interesting.

By the time I migrated to COTH in regard to this case it became even more compelling and I saw that people were confused as to terms etc so I started jumping in to explain.

The horse world gets very small sometimes and there were multiple personal experiences I read. Then the injured party began to post and things got messy. Stories didn’t seem to mesh in many people’s eyes. Then the gun conversation came up…

[erinmeri]

@CanteringCarrot

I also cannot believe that 2 of the horses were so amazing that someone would literally kill for them. I have a hard time buying that given the amount of quality horses there are out there.

It’s just, weird.

Agreed, but… see: horse murders.

[erinmeri]

I am not denying that… but as it pertains to the post I was quoting my question stands.

[erinmeri]

I am not questioning your personal timeline. I am questioning the COTH timeline as you represent it. I was probably screenshotting her posts while she was unconscious. So I am not agreeing with her behavior, but please don’t pretend that she brought this on herself 100%. That is simply not true.

Edited: not, not mot.

[erinmeri]

@Sdel

The thing is though….her behavior wasn’t limited to COTH….it was all over FB and Twitter. She was threatening random strangers with SS for victim blaming over FB comments.

Taking my comment out of context. It was a specific response to a specific post… you are opening a door to a different line of questioning. I think she is terrible but the issues you are referring to do not pertain to the argument.