Updated barisone lawsuit 10/29/21 post 851

[Knights_Mom]

@eggbutt

@FitzE

@Knights_Mom: I know this might be an unpopular opinion in America, but I do not like apples + cinnamon. I know! I know! It’s sacrilege! But that is why I don’t like apple pie very much. Or…didn’t.

I used to make a french pastry that involved puff filled with an apple/vanilla compote. Divine!

Now my apple pie is apple, vanilla. I make the compote (apples, sugar, vanilla bean) cooking it down until it’s very caramelised.

I spread that on the bottom of the pie shell, arrange thinly sliced apples, sprinkle with sugar and dot with butter, crimp the sides and bake.

Meanwhile, cook the peels from the apples with a piece of vanilla bean to make an apple-y syrup. Brush that over the pie when it comes out, et voilà!!

Oh wow!!! Yum!!! I’m gonna have to try that. Thank you!

Traitor!!!

[FitzE]

In the great melting pot tradition of the beautiful USA, I submit that my immigrant variation on the apple pie is, indeed, as all-American as can be!!

PS: Is crying from boredom during baseball exempt?

Actually, in all honesty, I love going to a baseball game at a park - in the US, Canada, Japan, South Korea, or any other place I’ve lived where they play baseball. I don’t care for it on TV, though.

I do find US football super boring though. They stand about a devil of a lot!! (zips up flame suit)

[Knights_Mom]

@FitzE

In the great melting pot tradition of the beautiful USA, I submit that my immigrant variation on the apple pie is, indeed, as all-American as can be!!

PS: Is crying from boredom during baseball exempt?

Actually, in all honesty, I love going to a baseball game at a park - in the US, Canada, Japan, South Korea, or any other place I’ve lived where they play baseball. I don’t care for it on TV, though.

I do find US football super boring though. They stand about a devil of a lot!! (zips up flame suit)

Foreigners. Sheesh!

[Sdel]

@FitzE

I used to make a french pastry that involved puff filled with an apple/vanilla compote. Divine!

I love all things pastry. It can be so hard being gluten free some days.

I did follow the advice to cut out all “baked desserts” for a while when going GF, because a lot of things just don’t compare. I now almost can’t stand the sugar in them. Even today, the cake was almost too sweet.

My cake was a hit. All gone.

[Sdel]

@eggbutt

I wonder if it would work with regular flour.

You probably could for the all purpose flour part. The GF flour I use is intended to be a 1:1 substitute for regular flour. Just omit the xantham gum with regular flour.

[Ambitious_Kate]

@Jojomo

What do you mean by a restraining order not being “ordered”? Was a restraining order ever requested by MB/MHG? Did the filing say that MB requested a restraining order based on the arson threat among other things and did not get one

How do you propose to get a restraining order without police reports to take to court, for the hearing?

[Ambitious_Kate]

@Jojomo

point was that MB was not acting in a vacuum; other people (particularly MHG) were going through the ordeal with him, and if his fragile mental state was so obvious that the cops should have noticed it, that raises the question in my mind as to why his fragile mental state was not also obvious to those in his circle.

Why do you think it wasn’t obvious to those in his circle?

[trubandloki]

@FitzE, your variation on apple pie sounds amazing. I love Vanilla and apples. (I also love regular apple pie.) I also totally agree about baseball on TV.

@Knights_Mom

Born Free Elsa the lion or Let It Go?

I am guessing a good percentage of the posters here do not even know what Born Free Elsa is all about, they were born after all that.

[FitzE]

Gen X for the win!!

Booooooorn freeeeeeeeee! As free as the wiiiiiiiind blooooooooows!

[Knights_Mom]

@FitzE

Gen X for the win!!

Booooooorn freeeeeeeeee! As free as the wiiiiiiiind blooooooooows!

Don’t. I’ll start auto crying. That movie always reduces me to tears.

@Ambitious_Kate in my jurisdiction you dont necessarily need a police report for a temporary order of protection at least in Family Court… few had one.

[cutter99]

@skydy

Yes, her behavior towards him is relevant. Her behavior towards others, the judge may consider irrelevant.

Do you honestly believe it is not relevant that she was threatening others, and not just MB? It shows a pattern of behavior that many have said is common for her. This forum has witnessed that behavior right here.

You might be surprised who finds this pattern of behavior relevant!

[LilRanger]

I think @skydy was saying this in the context of a criminal trial. There are explicit rules excluding evidence of past actions in criminal trials.

Civil trials have much more leeway.

[cutter99]

@Inigo-montoya

Yes, perjury carries a harsh penalty. It’s a good thing you’re not under oath when you spew the lies you tell here or you’d be facing those harsh penalties.

@Inigo-montoya

Or perhaps MB did everything he could to poach her from Donna Kelly (a very nice woman) including telling LK over and over, “NC is where dressage dreams go to die.”
Oh yeah, you don’t believe MB ever said that…haha.

I suggest you refer to your Occam when thinking about what most likely happened.

@Inigo-montoya

Yeah…public service announcement…hahaha. No one on this site with a thread of intelligence confuses anything you say here with public service.
You try to defend a would be killer by saying lots of people hated his victims. So what??? Lots of people hate each other but they don’t try to kill each other. If I learn my neighbor has killed 10 of his previous neighbors can I drove over to his house and kill him?
I’ll take it a step further…if I learn my neighbor has killed 10 of his previous neighbors and is writing on social media “Inigo Montoya is next” can I drive over to his house and kill him??
Of course not!! Not in this country! Not on this planet!!

Why don’t you admit to the people here on COTH you know nothing of the facts and certainly nothing of the law.

Want more Eggbutt BS? You point out allegations that Chris Deininger makes about LK or RG in his complaint and hold it out as fact because Deininger says this is what he was told. NO, Deininger’s lies (and they are lies) have nothing to do with the truth! Deininger is nothing more than a gunslinger throwing a Hail Mary hoping for a big payday for himself.

Now go back to your Elsa and Apple Pie talk. Use the ignore feature. Just STOP lying.

QPF, well, because we all know why!

[Angela_Freda]

@Inigo-montoya

You try to defend a would be killer by saying lots of people hated his victims.

See, when you get this basic detail wrong, that both parties can be flawed, you won’t really get much else right because your foundation is weak.

[eggbutt]

@Inigo-montoya

Lots of people hate each other but they don’t try to kill each other. If I learn my neighbor has killed 10 of his previous neighbors can I drove over to his house and kill him?

This is so classic…so typical.

Most people who hate each other simply stay away from each other. They don’t install illegal surveillance devices, refuse to leave property, threaten, harass, post incendiary SM posts, call SS to complain and when they are told they (SS) don’t handle adult-to-adult issues, suddenly come up with bogus child abuse issues to call out the big guns.

What you speak of is called vigilante justice. This situation wasn’t that and you know it. It was the result of your actions against a man and his girlfriend.

Yeah, you are right. Lots of people don’t do such despicable things to others, but then again, most people aren’t you. Thankfully.

[trubandloki]

@eggbutt, please take your own advice. Be it a cute lion or someone who makes ice castles, do an Elsa.

[MorganSercu]

Me too! I also wept uncontrollably for “Where the Red Fern Grows” (movie and audio).

In case you’re interested:

MEET ELSA’S PRIDE

[Jealoushe]

@SierraMist

30 years of working litigation in high profile and minor cases, plaintiff and defense, civil and criminal - I can tell you without a doubt that attorneys spew middle school gossipy BS in legal documents as well as in trial. Most complaints are filled with some half truths and exaggerations, as well as some facts thrown in to make it believable. The allegations in a complaint are assertions which will be proven or dismissed along the way through discovery or in trial. Plausibility standard: a complaint must contain enough factual allegations to state a claim that is plausible on its face.

Thank you for this information. I was also wondering if the complaint was considered stated fact or if it was simply their side of the story. Thank you for clarifying.

Thank you to those with legal knowledge who are helping understand these documents etc.

[Jojomo]

@Ambitious_Kate

@Jojomo

What do you mean by a restraining order not being “ordered”? Was a restraining order ever requested by MB/MHG? Did the filing say that MB requested a restraining order based on the arson threat among other things and did not get one

How do you propose to get a restraining order without police reports to take to court, for the hearing?

Eggbutt had said that, according the filing, that LK had threatened to “burn the place down.” It turns out that the document does NOT say that, and I think Eggbutt agreed that it does not actually say that. However, if there had been a direct threat of arson, MB (or MHG) could have gone to court with that threat, plus the multiple personality threat, and requested a restraining order. If she had threatened arson (apparently she didn’t), it is difficult for me to believe it would not have been granted.

The civil filing is a very partisan account describing one party’s claims. If MB and MGH were as fearful as claimed in the document two years later, why didn’t they seek a restraining order? That was my my question.

[trubandloki]

@Jojomo

If MB and MGH were as fearful as claimed in the document two years later, why didn’t they seek a restraining order? That was my my question.

I can not speak for what was going on in their heads, but it could simply be that they thought any number of things were required to get one. After so many calls to the police not getting any support, why would anyone think the courts would give them a restraining order?