UPDATES! Michael Barisone Released! FREEDOM! Plus Insurance Settlement

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

So what’s your story?

Why are you still here?

Because of your deep empathy for Lollypop?

If that’s the case, why aren’t you concerned about her obvious challenges?

Her social media posts of the last 4 years reveal someone with significant issues that might benefit from therapy of some kind.

Her physical appearance doesn’t indicate robust health.

She no longer shows at all, and seems to be having trouble finding a qualified trainer in the greater Loxahatchee / Wellington area who is even willing to work with her

And lastly…

She seems to have started collecting stray cats and keeping them in her garage. Never a good sign.

I don’t think you are helping LK by continuing to cling to the idea that MB will be stuck in legal limbo for a long time, and unable to make a professional return to training and coaching. If you really wanted to help her, you would focus more on how she clearly needs to pursue therapy for her own issues, and to move on with her life.

[Christa_P]

I wonder if he will have one of his horses shipped up and board it with a friend in the area.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@CanteringCarrot

Circling back to the whole helping (or not) MB.

Can we not post anything unless it’s in an effort to help MB?

Is that the rule now?

Or is that a way to silence opinions and/or facts in some cases?

I agree that many things on here won’t “help” MB, bur it’s a discussion board and the discussion will go on regardless, I think.

Now, if one were actually genuinely concerned about what will help MB…

I find it interesting that someone bolded a whole paragraph about how x, y, and z won’t help MB.

And then followed it up by remarking on what MB must do to get an unconditional release and to “deal” with his SafeSport status.

Very weird. How does CH know what MB needs to do? Why should we all listen to CH?

Mystifying.

What is confusing you, VHM?

I said months ago that, IMO, for MB to regain his mental health, a prerequisite for his release, he needed to come to terms with what he did (shot LK) and drop the delusions that he shot her in self defense or didn’t shoot her at all.

We just learned that he has progressed to “feeling terrible for what he did” and being grateful she survived. He has been conditionally released. I think these two factors are related.

He is not yet unconditionally released. He is now allowed to continue his treatment in a less restrictive environment. If you wish to be supportive of him, consider how your continuing SM campaign will affect his further progress toward mental health.

If you think, like Eggbutt and Cutter, that I’ve been wrong at every turn, then don’t listen to me!

[cheval_convert]

Thank you Cutter99! What welcome news. I cannot believe how relieved I am to hear this. May MB enjoy this Thanksgiving like no other!

[SoCoPony]

@CurrentlyHorseless

then don’t listen to me!

There you have it Humans, Let’s all ignore!!!

My goodness I feel like not only did we get a carrot cake yesterday but now a great big layer of apple icing on top.

[Sdel]

@CurrentlyHorseless

We just learned that he has progressed to “feeling terrible for what he did” and being grateful she survived.

He expressed that in the 48 hrs interview from the time of the trial. It’s not new.

The doctor didn’t express any new sentiments or revelations in his understanding of what he’s been told. She just didn’t twist them into something they are not so they could be used against him. Unlike the previous doctors and the K narrative. She also reinforced that he doesn’t remember what happened so he can’t tell everyone what really went down and prove the Ks to be liars.

[Unfforgettable]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Trying to deny that her shot her,

Finally! You’ve admitted the probability of what really happened. (although I’m sure you’ll claim it as a typo).

[cutter99]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

So what’s your story?

Why are you still here?

Because of your deep empathy for Lollypop?

If that’s the case, why aren’t you concerned about her obvious challenges?

Her social media posts of the last 4 years reveal someone with significant issues that might benefit from therapy of some kind.

Her physical appearance doesn’t indicate robust health.

She no longer shows at all, and seems to be having trouble finding a qualified trainer in the greater Loxahatchee / Wellington area who is even willing to work with her

And lastly…

She seems to have started collecting stray cats and keeping them in her garage. Never a good sign.

I don’t think you are helping LK by continuing to cling to the idea that MB will be stuck in legal limbo for a long time, and unable to make a professional return to training and coaching. If you really wanted to help her, you would focus more on how she clearly needs to pursue therapy for her own issues, and to move on with her life.

Quoting this because it is SO TRUE!!! Excellent post @Virginia_Horse_Mom!!!

[IdahoRider]

Hit the hit button and silence some kind of deep rooted pathology that would cause a “stranger” to randomly choose to spend years on a horse forum defending the behavior of a clearly disturbed woman.

No hat. No horse. No point. Let them go on without an audience to respond to.

Instead, we can all rejoice in how the story is ending. There is still an epilogue to be written: reinstatement in SS and a healthier, happier life moving forward.
Sheilah

[jvanrens]

You’re forgetting this part of the article:

[Bogey2]

it’s evidence enough in her own postings and testimony

[Unfforgettable]

@CurrentlyHorseless

We just learned that he has progressed to “feeling terrible for what he did”

Please don’t assume that as an admission he pulled the trigger. I’d prefer to look at his feeling terrible for what he did as him thinking how terrible it was that he ever let her on his property.

[cutter99]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@CanteringCarrot

Circling back to the whole helping (or not) MB.

Can we not post anything unless it’s in an effort to help MB?

Is that the rule now?

Or is that a way to silence opinions and/or facts in some cases?

I agree that many things on here won’t “help” MB, bur it’s a discussion board and the discussion will go on regardless, I think.

Now, if one were actually genuinely concerned about what will help MB…

I find it interesting that someone bolded a whole paragraph about how x, y, and z won’t help MB.

And then followed it up by remarking on what MB must do to get an unconditional release and to “deal” with his SafeSport status.

Very weird. How does CH know what MB needs to do? Why should we all listen to CH?

Mystifying.

What is confusing you, VHM?

I said months ago that, IMO, for MB to regain his mental health, a prerequisite for his release, he needed to come to terms with what he did (shot LK) and drop the delusions that he shot her in self defense or didn’t shoot her at all.

We just learned that he has progressed to “feeling terrible for what he did” and being grateful she survived. He has been conditionally released. I think these two factors are related.

He is not yet unconditionally released. He is now allowed to continue his treatment in a less restrictive environment. If you wish to be supportive of him, consider how your continuing SM campaign will affect his further progress toward mental health.

If you think, like Eggbutt and Cutter, that I’ve been wrong at every turn, then don’t listen to me!

Oh honey, we don’t think you have been wrong at every turn. Nope, not at all!

We KNOW you have been wrong at every turn! Undeniably, without a doubt, WRONG!!!

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Graymaresrule

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

If I had to guess SS has no choice but to reinstate him. But we shall see.

Just because the NGRI verdict excuses him on criminal liability, that doesn’t necessarily prevent a ban from SS.

It is by no means clear what SS will do.

Is the ban intended to be punitive or preventive?

The court and mental health system say he is not a danger to himself or others.

MB has not been banned by SS.

He is on an interim suspension while they investigate and decide whether he should receive a sanction such as a ban.

At some point the interim suspension will be lifted. The question is whether it will be replaced with a permanent ban, a temporary suspension, or with nothing.

It remains a fact that he shot and nearly killed someone, his own student, while insane. This is an unprecedented situation for SS, so it’s difficult to predict how it will be handled.

[SamBee]

@LexInVA

Assuming SafeSport now regards him as able to respond to their sanctions, he would have to ask for an appeal/mediation and present his side of things to them, like any other individual would be able to. This is a new ground for SafeSport, due to the NGRI and his confinement. That being said, we don’t know how this is gonna go or what’s going on and none of that will begin to be sorted out until next week, unless there’s been back and forth between his camp and SafeSport while he was held in confinement, and that isn’t something that seems to have been happening, so we’ll have to just wait and see.

Now that he has been officially deemed not a risk to himself or to others, are there any grounds for SafeSport not to reinstate him? Their mandate is to protect minor sports participants.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Unfforgettable

@CurrentlyHorseless

Trying to deny that her shot her,

Finally! You’ve admitted the probability of what really happened. (although I’m sure you’ll claim it as a typo).

Yep, a typo.

Trying to deny he shot her is not helping MB.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Unfforgettable

@CurrentlyHorseless

We just learned that he has progressed to “feeling terrible for what he did”

Please don’t assume that as an admission he pulled the trigger. I’d prefer to look at his feeling terrible for what he did as him thinking how terrible it was that he ever let her on his property.

I do assume it’s an admission that he realizes that he pulled the trigger and nearly killed her.

[Scribbler]

@Sdel

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

I find it interesting that someone

Has always been very belligerent about any and all talk of LK being banned by SS. Others have been banned for less than what it is claimed that she’s done. And it seems like there is plenty of evidence of it too.

If Lala makes no attempt to update her membership with USEF, then I would guess the issue of her being banned won’t come up. Are there any cases of people being banned who were not members? SS doesn’t go around pre emptively banning nonmembers like back yard coaches or Western Pleasure riders. I would guess that not completing her membership requirements is a way to avoid the moment of reckoning.

I also predicted way back when that her drugs and criminally adjacent lifestyle would lead her to a sordid end eventually unconnected to this case. We will see.

[Sdel]

@CurrentlyHorseless

It remains a fact that he shot and nearly killed someone, his own student, while insane.

Because she and her family were plotting, provoking, actively threatening him, engaging in illegal activities against him and reveling in his desperation and mental health decline when no one would help him……and he can prove it.

Doesn’t sound like your average student in your average training situation should be concerned.

[Ghazzu]

@SoCoPony

I am just a Pony pondering a thought on how that training her again will work since MB stated he NEVER WANTS TO SEE LK AGAIN?

Not to mention the referenced order of protection preventing contact…