UPDATES! Michael Barisone Released! FREEDOM! Plus Insurance Settlement

[cutter99]

In honor of @trubandloki!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxZoX8wo2Pg

[SoCoPony]

@CurrentlyHorseless

While people are not actually trying to dox me, Sdel and VHM slide in little comments suggesting I’m sort of insider with an agenda.

Now, Now, Now, Don’t backslide, you were making wonderful progress.

I am not sure if I could pray any harder for you.

Remember what you said wayyyy back when, You don’t like bullies so don’t be one now.

[trubandloki]

@SoCoPony

I am not sure if I could pray any harder for you.

Isn’t there a thing that if CH sends you a PM with all of their real information it will allow you to pray for them? Isn’t that was KK told us way back when?

That must be the issue.

Go Team Michael!

[Jenerationx]

@CurrentlyHorseless

He needs to honestly face facts for his own mental health rather than seek the comfort of delusuons. In that regard, the facts do matter.

The fact is that he doesn’t remember the index event, so he cannot possibly do that, unless he lies. So maybe you need to come to terms with that fact. No psychiatrist would advise him to do that.

Of course there’s also a lack of any forensic evidence presented, the bite from a dog high up on the left groin when he was supposedly face down on the ground, the 7 minutes of being beaten in the face with a cellphone, and other things that make no sense with the story 2 drug addicts, one an admitted liar tried to spin. BUT… even without that, there is the whole memory loss thing.

[SoCoPony]

Well since CH is just ignoring me that could be part of the reason too.

I mean she didn’t even thank me for the gift or the prayers that I sent to her.

Sigh what’s a Pony to do.

[SamBee]

@CurrentlyHorseless

But it seems pretty basic that if one is committed to a psychiatric hospital with delusional disorder, a disorder that resulted in you nearly killing someone, that a key element to recover from the delusional disorder would be the ability to drop the delusional thinking and acknowledge reality.

How would it be possible to recover from delusional disorder while holding on to the underlying delusions

Pesky fact #1: the doctors say the “underlying delusions” were about the level of danger Lauren posed and the potential threat of her harming the kids and / or horses? To the point where Michael got security and wasn’t sleeping out of vigilance?

IIRC the underlying delusions had nothing to do with the shooting itself, since he had / had no memory of it.

Pesky fact #2: There is no requirement for him to “recover” from a delusional disorder in order to be released from the psychiatric facility. The requirement is that releasing him doesn’t pose a danger to himself or to others. It’s quite possible to have delusions and not be a risk. There are thousands of people living with delusions out there.

Your amateur diagnosis that in order to recover from his delusional disorder he needs to admit or acknowledge something about which he had no memory makes zero sense whatsoever.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@MHM

Nope.

@MHM has very usefully explained that her comment “Nope” means absolutely nothing. So she is not expressing any opinion as to whether I am, or am not, an insider.

Does she have a bot programmed to answer “Nope” to my every post? Let’s see:

[SoCoPony]

Do I spy you backsliding to being mean again, CH?.

I thought you said you were better than that.

So disappointing, very, very disappointing.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Jenerationx

@CurrentlyHorseless

He needs to honestly face facts for his own mental health rather than seek the comfort of delusuons. In that regard, the facts do matter.

The fact is that he doesn’t remember the index event, so he cannot possibly do that, unless he lies. So maybe you need to come to terms with that fact. No psychiatrist would advise him to do that.

Of course there’s also a lack of any forensic evidence presented, the bite from a dog high up on the left groin when he was supposedly face down on the ground, the 7 minutes of being beaten in the face with a cellphone, and other things that make no sense with the story 2 drug addicts, one an admitted liar tried to spin. BUT… even without that, there is the whole memory loss thing.

He does not need to lie and say that he remembers pulling the trigger to understand that he shot her.

The jurors were not present at the shooting (excuse me, index event) but based on the evidence and testimony they arrived at the assessment that he shot her. He can understand that he shot her without a direct memory of pulling the trigger by evaluating the evidence presented at the trial, and by listening to his lawyers and doctors, who hopefully are not lying to him.

[MHM]

As usual, your interpretations are incorrect.

At the risk of repeating myself, which is something you certainly love to do:

Nope.

[ekat]

For those that do Thanksgiving, anyone have anything cool to be thankful for?

Me? Michael won’t be in Greystone. (Or behind bars.)

[SoCoPony]

Why I must admit that a bowl full of yummy, yummy alfalfa soaked and warmed daily.

And of course FREEDOM for MB and for all those who love him and have supported him.

[SamBee]

@CurrentlyHorseless

What’s really old is posters still holding on to the delusion that it’s not a fact that MB shot LK.

MB, thankfully, has faced the unpleasant truth and is trying to move on.

Huh? Now you are making even less sense. Where do these ideas come from?

It’s a fact that the jury, based on the evidence and testimony they were allowed to see/hear, concluded that Michael shot Lauren while in a state of delusion.

That is not the same as “it’s a fact that MB shot LK.”

To my knowledge there has never been any conclusive evidence to prove that - no video, no gunshot residue evidence, nothing. Had the jury been privy to some information not admissible in court, they may have reached a different verdict. We’ll never know. Nobody can say it’s a fact he shot her; nobody can say it’s a fact he didn’t shoot her. Only LK and RG know for sure.

Nowhere has it been reported that Michael had admitted shooting her or has taken responsibility for shooting her. All he allegedly said was that he’s sorry for what he did.

Sorry for taking her on as a student? Sorry for letting her stay on the property? Sorry for exposing his family and clients to such a dangerous individual? Sorry for giving her a deeply discounted rate in return for letting Rob work on the house? Sorry for not having the details of their arrangement spelled out clearly in writing? Sorry for not making her leave when MHG first asked him to? Sorry for getting tangled up in a client dispute which ruined his business and his personal life? Sorry for not simply packing up his horses and family and going to Florida, leaving Lauren behind?

We don’t know. And neither do you. So why are you stating your speculation as fact?

[Maria]

Squirrel l’s response

[trubandloki]

Yes, Michael spending Thanksgiving with people who love him is for sure on my list of things I am thankful for.
Add that Michael has such an amazing list of long term friends who are there for him. That says so much about what kind of person Michael is.

[Sdel]

@SamBee

Huh? Now you are making even less sense. Where do these ideas come from?

It’s a fact that the jury, based on the evidence and testimony they were allowed to see/hear, concluded that Michael shot Lauren while in a state of delusion.

That is not the same as “it’s a fact that MB shot LK.”

You’re wasting your breath. There are probably close to 10k, maybe more, posts trying to get this simple idea across. No traction yet.

[SamBee]

Good to know lol

[trubandloki]

@SamBee

Pesky fact #1: the doctors say the “underlying delusions” were about the level of danger Lauren posed and the potential threat of her harming the kids and / or horses? To the point where Michael got security and wasn’t sleeping out of vigilance?

IIRC the underlying delusions had nothing to do with the shooting itself, since he had / had no memory of it.

Pesky fact #2: There is no requirement for him to “recover” from a delusional disorder in order to be released from the psychiatric facility. The requirement is that releasing him doesn’t pose a danger to himself or to others. It’s quite possible to have delusions and not be a risk. There are thousands of people living with delusions out there.

Your amateur diagnosis that in order to recover from his delusional disorder he needs to admit or acknowledge something about which he had no memory makes zero sense whatsoever.

Thank you for sharing these facts!

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@SamBee

Huh? Now you are making even less sense. Where do these ideas come from?

It’s a fact that the jury, based on the evidence and testimony they were allowed to see/hear, concluded that Michael shot Lauren while in a state of delusion.

That is not the same as “it’s a fact that MB shot LK.”

Precisely!

@SamBee

To my knowledge there has never been any conclusive evidence to prove that - no video, no gunshot residue evidence, nothing. Had the jury been privy to some information not admissible in court, they may have reached a different verdict. We’ll never know. Nobody can say it’s a fact he shot her; nobody can say it’s a fact he didn’t shoot her. Only LK and RG know for sure.

Exactly!

@SamBee

Nowhere has it been reported that Michael had admitted shooting her or has taken responsibility for shooting her. All he allegedly said was that he’s sorry for what he did.

Indeed

@SamBee

Sorry for taking her on as a student? Sorry for letting her stay on the property? Sorry for exposing his family and clients to such a dangerous individual? Sorry for giving her a deeply discounted rate in return for letting Rob work on the house? Sorry for not having the details of their arrangement spelled out clearly in writing? Sorry for not making her leave when MHG first asked him to? Sorry for getting tangled up in a client dispute which ruined his business and his personal life? Sorry for not simply packing up his horses and family and going to Florida, leaving Lauren behind?

Highly Likely

@SamBee

We don’t know. And neither do you. So why are you stating your speculation as fact?

Interesting question.

I wonder if there are certain legal implications if MB were to actually admit he shot LK? I mean, there is still an insurance lawsuit hanging out there. Might it complicate that ongoing legal matter if he actually went ahead and admitted that he did shoot Lauren that day?

I think that might be an issue.

It sure would be a shame if MB was coerced into making an admission like that, because of the way the ongoing Krol process was being handled, and then lost out on a financial settlement from the insurance lawsuit.

[Graymaresrule]

Yes