Many large and small dogs on death row in NYC. Please share.
so many nice dogs, I hope they find homes
Heart wrenching.
49 dogs
31 pit bulls
11 small dogs (includes a mass dump of 6 Maltese from a BYB)
1 Cocker Spaniel
2 huskies
1 German Shepherd mix
69% of this list of the least wanted dogs in NYC are from the 3 breed types with terrible aggression records - the pit bulls, the huskies and the German Shepherds.
63% of the list alone is pit bulls.
22% of the list are from the puppy mill breeds - small, cute, fuzzy.
The outlier cocker is, of course, from a breed notorious for being ill-natured.
Conclusion? Aggressive breeds and impulse puppies are fueling what’s left of dog overpopulation. With aggression being #1 with a bullet. Forget no-kill, forget voluntary spay/neuter. Make it illegal to breed any bull breed without a $3,000 annual permit and a special license, and make it illegal to breed more than 1 litter a year. Problem would be 85% solved. Or, you know, just keep defending everyone’s right to breed pit bulls and Cavachons for craigslist, because otherwise PETA is going to come liberate your house pets. Note, rant NOT aimed at anyone here, just a vent.
I understand your need to vent but telling everyone that all these breeds are notorious for being ill natured does not help their need to find homes before they are euthanized. I read many of the descriptions and most of them sounded like very sweet dogs albeit scared for where they ended up.
I encourage anyone looking for a dog to look at these pups. There are some diamonds in the rough.
Mulah the cocker is safe. Abandoned Angels Cocker Spaniel Rescue is looking for a Foster/Adoptive home.
While I can agree with vacation about over breeding of many dogs (I live in the south where the culture is not conducive to altering your pets) I do not agree with her/his labeling of aggression. The number of pit bulls in shelters and that are killed reflect the sheer number of pit bulls that are in the US. We see it here in the south as well, plus they are harder to adopt out due to the negative publicity that has been so pervasive in recent history. Hopefully the tide will turn especially since the Victory dogs have shown that fighting dogs can be rehabbed and productive members of society.
http://barkpost.com/vicktory-dogs/
Oh dear god–just what we all need; “rehabbed” fighting dogs unleashed on the unsuspecting public. Talk about the poster children for euthanasia.
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Oh dear god–just what we all need; “rehabbed” fighting dogs unleashed on the unsuspecting public. Talk about the poster children for euthanasia.[/QUOTE]
If you are speaking of the Vick dogs drop it. They broke the stereotype of ex fighting dogs. Out of all the Vick dogs taken off his property only one, if I remember right, was human aggressive and put down. There has not been one report of an ex fighting dog doing harm once rescued and rehab’d. The adopted Vick dogs are solid citizens, most living with other pets and children. Some are/were therapy dogs, they are aging out now. They blazed the trail for other victims of dog fighting to get a chance to live. The groups and individuals who went to bat for them are heroes in my eyes.
Since the Vick dogs other ex fighters are now living good lives. They aren’t out terrorizing neighborhoods and eating small children. They are sleeping on a couch somewhere, or as Johnny Justice ( a Vick dog) helping kids learn to read.
I know Pits aren’t everyone’s cup of tea. If someone is scared of my girl when out in public I move her out of the way. Most owners I’m in contact with are considerate that way. I also won’t back down from defending her either. I don’t like Labs or Goldens, but that’s just me. I’ll defend someone’s right to have one though. I do agree with you about over breeding, but that’s about it.
I personally know fighting dogs… they aren’t really the way you think they are.
(They all are not snarling, foaming at the mouth, freak monsters. A few can be this way but the vast majority are not)
I would not be overjoyed to find out my neighbor’s proud new “family member” is a fighting dog. Would you?
A current used fighting dog? No. It wouldn’t be my ideal
A rehabbed one? I wouldn’t care so much.
I would keep my pets away though.
Sswor, I would not have a problem at all with a former fighting dog or bait dog as a neighbor as long as the people are responsible.
One of my former fosters was either a fighting dog or bait dog with the scars to prove it. She is a wonderful dog who is much loved in her new family.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=638149312890448&set=pcb.638150746223638&type=3&theater
You can see the scars on her face, both of her upper canines were broken off.
Sswor, if you can read this article re 367 fighting dogs and still feel the way you do, then you are one cold hearted person.
http://www.humanesociety.org/news/magazines/2015/07-08/update-367-dogs-rescued-from-dogfighting.html
Our animal control euth between 18000-26000 dogs and cats each yr. Up until last yr we euthed over 80 percent of all pets that went thru there. They’ve made some changes and we are at about a 60 percent euth rate now.
Most if our dogs are chih, pit bull, labs, poodles, German shep, boxers and huskies, but we regularly get cockers, Shar peis, shih tsus, saint bernards, schnauzers, rotties, dachshunds.
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I personally know fighting dogs… they aren’t really the way you think they are.
(They all are not snarling, foaming at the mouth, freak monsters. A few can be this way but the vast majority are not)[/QUOTE]
AGREE. I ran a pet store on the wrong side of town. The fighters dogs were always 100% PEOPLE safe- they had to be to allow the owners to doctor them up and break up the fights. They’d come in all scarred up on logging chain leashes, with owners asking if I sold steroids, and wiggle their butts for cookies and lick my face.
DOG agressive- yes-but I was much more comfortable trimming nails on a fighter than on grandmas rotten little chihuaha mix.
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AGREE. I ran a pet store on the wrong side of town. The fighters dogs were always 100% PEOPLE safe- they had to be to allow the owners to doctor them up and break up the fights. They’d come in all scarred up on logging chain leashes, with owners asking if I sold steroids, and wiggle their butts for cookies and lick my face.
DOG agressive- yes-but I was much more comfortable trimming nails on a fighter than on grandmas rotten little chihuaha mix.[/QUOTE]
I giggled about the last part but this is so right! There is a long line if fighting pits and one named Goldberg and his decedents were insane. BEWARE! The line died out because of how unpredictable they were. All others are exactly as you describe. Very respectable to their humans.
It’s very sad, and not all pitbulls are ex fighting dogs, most are not in fact since PB fighting is illegal in most regions.
A lot of them are given up due to homeowners policies not insuring if a PB is in house (some companies will insure, or insure with a good citizen test pass), , landlords not wanting them, some buildings or even cities banning them.I live in S Florida, Miami Dade County bans any pit bull (because there were too many fight rings there). Many landlords and HOA communities won’t allow them. So they end up in shelters.
Unwanted dogs of all breeds exist but in greater numbers are PB or large dogs of any kind. A regular looking big tan or black dog is not an adoption magnet ( except to the dog savvy who see the noble soul behind the plain exterior.)
You are very right about housing with a PB, or a couple other breeds. I was lucky that State Farm here said no problem. I have a rental house and if the tenant decides to move I’m going to contact a rescue group I’m good friends with and ask if they have someone who would like to rent and foster PB would be welcome.
And about ex fighting dogs, I’d more than be interested in adopting or fostering when my girl is no longer here. She tolerates other dogs for small bits of time, but loves being a single girl.
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49 dogs
31 pit bulls
11 small dogs (includes a mass dump of 6 Maltese from a BYB)
1 Cocker Spaniel
2 huskies
1 German Shepherd mix
69% of this list of the least wanted dogs in NYC are from the 3 breed types with terrible aggression records - the pit bulls, the huskies and the German Shepherds.
63% of the list alone is pit bulls.
22% of the list are from the puppy mill breeds - small, cute, fuzzy.
The outlier cocker is, of course, from a breed notorious for being ill-natured.
Conclusion? Aggressive breeds and impulse puppies are fueling what’s left of dog overpopulation. With aggression being #1 with a bullet. Forget no-kill, forget voluntary spay/neuter. Make it illegal to breed any bull breed without a $3,000 annual permit and a special license, and make it illegal to breed more than 1 litter a year. Problem would be 85% solved. Or, you know, just keep defending everyone’s right to breed pit bulls and Cavachons for craigslist, because otherwise PETA is going to come liberate your house pets. Note, rant NOT aimed at anyone here, just a vent.[/QUOTE]
Pit bulls do not end up in shelters because they are aggressive. They end up in shelters because of terrible, horrible people who over-breed them with the intent of fighting them or because they perceive them to be aggressive.
Add to that, they stay in shelters because a second group of uneducated people believe them to be “scary dangerous dogs” and won’t adopt them. It’s a vicious cycle.
I have never in my life met a dangerous pit bull. I realize they exist, but so do dogs of every breed. A friend of mine just had to euthanize their basset hound because she was so aggressive.
Pit bulls are great dogs.
