It sounds like with the change from pregreens/first years/etc to green 3’/green 3’3"/etc the reinstatement option is gone. Does anyone know if there’s a loop hole or work around? I have a horse that’s shown once in March and won’t show again all year and I sure would love to get the green year back. Any suggestions? Thanks!
Sounds like you can have that year back. I emailed USEF about this in the spring about a reinstatement. this is the response i got:
If you are asking about the rules for a horse, they no longer require reinstatements, but must meet the specifications in HU103.
- A horse may compete in only one Green Hunter fence height section at any one competition.
- When a horse begins its hunter eligibility competing in hunter or equitation classes or sections with fence heights of 3’0" - 3’5", it remains eligible for Green Hunter 3’0" and 3’3" for two competition years (not necessarily consecutive).
a. A horse that competes in any Hunter or Hunter/Jumping Seat Equitation class at a recognized competition in the
United States or Canada with fence heights of 3’6" or higher is no longer eligible to compete in the Green Hunter
3’0" section but remains eligible to compete in the Green Hunter 3’3" section.
b. A horse may compete in any other hunter or equitation class with fence heights a maximum of 3’6" if otherwise
eligible at a maximum of four (4) competitions in one competition year prior to August 1 and remain eligible to
compete in the Green Hunter 3’3". The following competition year in which a horse competes in any hunter or
equitation class at a Federation or Equine Canada Licensed competition in North America with fence heights of
3’6" or higher is considered the horse’s Green Hunter 3’6" year regardless of the number of times it competes.
c. A horse that competes over fences 3’6" or higher in any Hunter or Equitation class after August 1st is no longer
eligible for the 3’3" section and is only eligible to compete in the Green Hunter 3’6" section for the remainder of
the competition year. That competition year will be considered the horse’s Green Hunter 3’6" year.
d. Once a horse competes in hunter or equitation classes at a Federation or Equine Canada licensed competition
in North America with fences 3’6" or higher at five (5) or more competitions in one year, it is no longer eligible for
the Green Hunter 3’3" section. At this time the horse is only eligible to compete in the Green Hunter 3’6" section
for the remainder of the competition year. That competition year will be considered the horse’s Green Hunter 3’6"
year.
e. For jumper restrictions see HU103.12 - Once a horse competes in a Federation or USHJA National Championship/Event with fence heights of 3’6" or
higher he is no longer eligible for the Green Hunter 3’0" or 3’3" sections. - Following a horse’s Green Hunter 3’6" year, it is eligible to compete in the Green Hunter 3’9" section for one year. That one year will commence the next competition year that the horse competes in any hunter or equitation class at a Federation or Equine Canada Licensed competition in North America with fence heights of 3’6" or higher. For jumper restrictions see HU103.12.
- A horse that has completed his Green Hunter 3’9" year is no longer eligible for any Green Hunter section.
- Once a horse begins its hunter eligibility, the following jumper restrictions apply:
a. To remain eligible for Green Hunter 3’0 and 3’3", a horse may not compete in a jumper class at a Federation or
Equine Canada Licensed competition in North America with fence heights higher than 3’3" (or 1.0m when class
specifications list fence height in metric).
b. To remain eligible for Green Hunter 3’6", a horse may not compete in a jumper class at a Federation or Equine
Canada Licensed competition in North America with fence heights higher than 3’6" (or 1.10m when class specifications list fence height in metric).
c. To remain eligible for Green Hunter 3’9", a horse may not compete in a jumper class at a Federation or Equine
Canada Licensed competition in North America with fence heights higher than 3’9" (or 1.20m when class specifications list fence height in metric).
Emily had a great response. I am not a fan of the wording “loop hole”. It makes it sound as if someone is looking for a way around the rule in a nefarious fashion, when all it takes is an email to the USEF for LEGAL and legitimate paths.
I’m not looking for nefarious loop holes - in the past, if your horse only showed a couple times before a certain date, you were able to pay a nominal fee and have that year not count - the record is still there, it just doesn’t count towards that green year. I can’t find the previous rule’s wording since it’s now been updated everywhere.
I got the same response from USEF - there’s no way to have that year back. you have two years at the 3’ and/or 3’3", and there’s no recourse if your horse is injured and misses the majority of the year. My horse only did unrated schooling shows (baby green) in 2016, and then this year we did one show in April at 3’. Because of an injury, she’s out for the rest of the year. This year counts as one of the two she has as a 3’ and/or 3’3" Green Hunter. We’ll have one year (presumably 2018) that we can she can show 3’ or 3’3" then it’s up to the 3’6". Under the previous reinstatement option, I would have been able to pay a fee and have that one show not count, meaning we would still have 2018 and 2019 as 3’/3" Green Hunter years.
It’s a new rule this year, so I wasn’t sure if there were aspects of it that I wasn’t aware of.
No…it got revised due to some seeing how far they could push it.
I wanted to reinstate my gelding’s 3’9 green status but because I show in 3’6 A O’s I am not allowed to.
My horse got hurt after two shows this year and it would be nice to get that second 3’/3’3" Green (formerly pre-green) year back. But pre-green didn’t work that way AFAIK, so I guess if makes sense that this won’t either.
Besides, with some luck we might make it to a show by the end of the year, in which case it’s moot.
