USEF no longer posting suspensions?

[lockedoutalter]

The USEF has not updated it’s rulings and finding page since August.

I know some feathers were ruffled because of the Inclusive ruling and subsequent lawsuits, etc, but I find it very disappointing that the USEF is now withholding information pertaining to the latest findings. This is not just for horse welfare that these rulings need to be posted, for goodness sakes, they had to recently ban a child molester!

I guess this is just the latest chapter in the USEF pulling up the welcome mat and shutting the blinds on it’s membership.

[sockmonkey]

“Feathers were ruffled?” That’s an unbelievable understatement. I think that thread is still alive on the boards here. If people had their way Tori would never ride again, Brigid wouldn’t have access to her kid, the closest Scott Stewart would get to a horse is working at McDonald’s and Betsee Parker would lose all her fur coats. The hatred abounds.

I’m not saying they shouldn’t post the suspensions, but let’s call it like it is. People went berserk over this.

[mand_asbfan]

You should follow the “USEF vs Randall Cates” page on Facebook - lots of fishy stuff going on there…

[Thoroughbred1201]

[QUOTE=sockmonkey;8404308]

I’m not saying they shouldn’t post the suspensions, but let’s call it like it is. People went berserk over this.[/QUOTE]

And the reason that people went berserk was because of the civil suit making the transcripts public. So for the first time, we actually got to see how the system worked. And I, for one, feel that people should go berserk.

That the governing body knew about the rampant drugging, and the missuses of the trainer signatures, etc that has been suspected by many members), all confirmed was pretty blatant. And that the horse had had so many injections that they couldn’t put another into it’s jugular vein. In addition, reading the transcript as a whole put a pretty poor light on the USEF and how it handles it’s discipline.

That kind of transparency is badly needed, and might actually make the rank and file members feel like there is actually some justice going on (or not, as the case may be). But when the transcript shows the lack of emotion regarding a top horse that gets 9 tubes of substances 20 minutes before going in the ring from all concerned in the room shows more than they’d want us to see. 1) they know about it. 2) they don’t want US to know about it.

And as stated, the USEF vs Randall Cates is another cluster. Much, much more than meets the eye on that one as well.

When the USEF actually begins to govern with a fair, even, and transparent hand (searchable database, publish all of the transcripts, pull all awards from those found guilty in drug tests), then I’ll believe that they have the best interests of 1) the horses and 2) the members at heart. Until then, go berserk. Maybe they’ll listen? But I doubt it.

[MIKES_MCS]

Dream on …
"When the USEF actually begins to govern with a fair, even, and transparent hand (searchable database, publish all of the transcripts, pull all awards from those found guilty in drug tests), then I’ll believe that they have the best interests of 1) the horses and 2) the members at heart.

you’d be correct on this …
“Until then, go berserk. Maybe they’ll listen? But I doubt it”.

[findeight]

I don’t know that the hearing committee has met since August. They don’t meet every month and have a hard time scheduling anything during Indoors. IIRC from the sored legs on the Jumpers accusation back at the end of August, the next meeting of the committee and earliest that case could be heard was to be in Nov. takes a bit of time after the hearing to get the results online. Sometimes there is no immediate action taken to report as well, especially if there are lawyers involved and it gets continued.

Not defending USEF in any way here but perhaps checking to see if there was actually a meeting of the hearing committee in Sep or Oct that resulted in disciplinary action before accusing them of deliberately withholding results from the membership would be a good idea.

[sockmonkey]

I’m not saying people shouldn’t go berserk. I’m just saying “ruffled feathers” is like calling WWII a fist fight.

[lockedoutalter]

[QUOTE=findeight;8404389]
I don’t know that the hearing committee has met since August. They don’t meet every month and have a hard time scheduling anything during Indoors. IIRC from the sored legs on the Jumpers accusation back at the end of August, the next meeting of the committee and earliest that case could be heard was to be in Nov. takes a bit of time after the hearing to get the results online. Sometimes there is no immediate action taken to report as well, especially if there are lawyers involved and it gets continued.

Not defending USEF in any way here but perhaps checking to see if there was actually a meeting of the hearing committee in Sep or Oct that resulted in disciplinary action before accusing them of deliberately withholding results from the membership would be a good idea.[/QUOTE]

But they are also neglecting regular business, such as Professional declarations and automatic suspensions. There’s no need for a hearing committee there.

[lockedoutalter]

[QUOTE=sockmonkey;8404416]
I’m not saying people shouldn’t go berserk. I’m just saying “ruffled feathers” is like calling WWII a fist fight.[/

Should I edit the post to read “I know some people rightfully
Set themselves on fire for justice after the inclusive debacle”?

There’s a bigger issue here, please do not take away from that because I didn’t hyperbolize to your satisfaction.

[sockmonkey]

Thank you. I feel much better now.

[Darden]

I do not know that the Committee met in Sept or Oct but they are meeting on Wednesday.

[Janet]

[QUOTE=lockedoutalter;8404418]
But they are also neglecting regular business, such as Professional declarations and automatic suspensions. There’s no need for a hearing committee there.[/QUOTE]

I do not think so.

If you look at the suspension list, there are quite a lot that start in September, October and November