Just saw this announcement from AAEP. Has anyone come across the press release or ruling from USEF? It would be interesting to read the details and accepted documentation. I didn’t find anything with a quick look at the USEF website.
Where did you see the announcement? Link?
Can’t link from my phone, but it appears to be USEF GR 845, effective 12/01/15. I think it may only apply to HJ competitions but could only find the proposal and then the number on the list of approved changes.
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Can’t link from my phone, but it appears to be USEF GR 845, effective 12/01/15. I think it may only apply to HJ competitions but could only find the proposal and then the number on the list of approved changes.[/QUOTE]
That was withdrawn according to one place on the USEF site. https://www.usef.org/documents/ruleChanges/276-13.pdf
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And in another it is “amended” but doesn’t say approved:
https://www.usef.org/documents/ruleChanges/518-14.pdf
I’m looking to see if I can find anything else.
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Looks like it is approved here. https://www.usef.org/documents/ruleChanges/2015/RuleChanges2015AnnualMeeting.pdf I believe it was the amended version approved, which does not specific h/j.
It’s listed here as approved, and appears to be for all USEF competitions (this document has a later date than the one netg posted): https://www.usef.org/documents/ruleChanges/2015/RulesApproved11615BODMeetingbyrulenumber.pdf
Not cool, I hope it’s not true. My horse has a horrible reaction to that vaccine and I no longer give it to him!
I haven’t heard anything about it, which seems odd if it did pass.
Hunterkid, the rule has an exemption for horses that have reactions. You need a letter from your vet.
Nothing new here. The HITS venue we show at most has been requiring Flu/Rhino within 6 months since the beginning of last season.
Ugh. Why did we not discuss this?
Last I heard, they’re not sure that the vaccination protects against the neurologic form, which is what I assume we’re concerned about. I’m not seeing a ton of consensus that the every-six-month schedule is the right thing for all horses all the time. And I’m wondering why only this vaccine if we’re having a vaccine rule.
If you’re going to Florida for weeks and weeks, I’m totally on board with that venue requiring a set of vaccinations. If I’m hauling in to a little one-day, one-ring dressage show and am on the grounds for four hours with no contact with other horses, I’m not feeling the same urgency. Again, I’m fine with venues assessing their situation as higher risk, but these rules apply to teeny shows in Anchorage as well as the big HITS shows etc.
It’s required here in Germany… well, influenza anyway. Previously unvaccinated horses have to have their second booster shot with 46 days (I think) of setting hoof on a competition venue, and then their half yearly shots have to be maintained. At every show you have to had in your horses’ Passport to the secretary, and they do check the vaccination status.
You get used to the whole procedure pretty quickly, it’s just an added expense, but if it helps prevent the spread of flu then so be it.
Hope it doesn’t come to pass! What about IR horses? They may not have severe reactions - or they may just die or founder. What about horses who have non-severe reactions?
If they said rabies or WNV or EWT, I’d be much more supportive - fatal diseases that are worth the risk. This is a tough one…
And the Rhino vaccine does NOT protect against the neuro form of Rhino. There is no such protection against that disease.
This is not the kind of thing people should just randomly find out about. This is the kind of thing that USEF should be announcing with the rationales from the beginning, certainly at least once the rule was passed.
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This is not the kind of thing people should just randomly find out about. This is the kind of thing that USEF should be announcing with the rationales from the beginning, certainly at least once the rule was passed.[/QUOTE]
Agreed.
We have a summer show in the mountains which as of last year is held at the same time as a roping event - with a shared barn area. I can pretty much guarantee the requirement isn’t there for that show. Does that mean we should not be able to hold a show there?
What about one day shows where horses are boarded and not required to get the vaccination?
Big can of worms.
And my horses DO get this vaccination.
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Again, I’m fine with venues assessing their situation as higher risk, but these rules apply to teeny shows in Anchorage as well as the big HITS shows etc.[/QUOTE]
Anchorage shows can have 100+ horses in multiple rings over 3-4 days. I realize that’s not WEF, but it’s not exactly low/no risk either.
Although ironically, they are one of the few circuits this rule probably won’t impact at all. Since the show season is less than six months long, riders will be covered by their normal spring shots.
This is actually a good example of why trying to assess venue by venue is not the best idea. People can jump to the wrong conclusions about a venue’s risk, and if it doesn’t come down from USEF as a requirement, most venues aren’t going to implement rules on their own.
Make everyone or no one do it.
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Anchorage shows can have 100+ horses in multiple rings over 3-4 days. I realize that’s not WEF, but it’s not exactly low/no risk either.[/QUOTE]
Please don’t think I’m dissing Anchorage as a venue. My point being that their population and disease risk and show realities are different from Kentucky, such that allowing a venue to make an assessment might be smarter. It’s interesting to look at the rule change document and to note that they ask each discipline, but not each region.
Generally doesn’t the USEF put out proposed rule changes and then you can attend your regional meetings to discuss the proposed rule changes or attend the annual conventions to let your feelings be known about rule changes?
As someone whose horse has nasty reactions to vaccines, particularly these vaccines, I’m not happy to hear this.
At this time there is no vaccine on the market that can be labeled as protecting against the neuro form - however - there are a couple of brands that have been proven to be possibly more effective one being the Calvenza brand from Boehringer-Ingelheim. For those with horses that have reactions this one can be given intranasal so no injection needed.
I don’t work for BI but I use to - this vaccine was actually developed by a small company Hennessy Research Associates which was made up of former Bayer employees (we all jumped ship when Intervet bought the vaccine business from Bayer) - I worked for HRA during that time and help develop the vaccine. The owner of HRA recognized the need for the neuro form and while it isn’t labeled as such it was a consideration during development. Just to restate I do not work for either company anymore and in fact no longer work in the animal heath industry. After working over 20 years in that industry and for several companies I will tell you that I will only give BI vaccines (the Veterra brand which is made in cooperation with HRA) simply because I know their quality of production and the quality of the starting material. While not required by the USDA they manufacture their vaccines under cGMP - mainly because they also export to Europe so they must comply with the EU Standards which is GMP (Good Manufacturing Practices). Here in the USA cGMP is only required under the FDA which encompasses animal pharmaceuticals but not vaccines.
The bigger deal about vaccinating is that while no, it can’t protect the vaccinated horse from the neuro form, it can significantly reduce the amount of virus shed if they are exposed, which then helps reduce the spread and risk of the neuro form developing.
