USEF rule change about judges teaching

True, that!

For what its worth, NOW when you click the link to the rule change proposal, you get “404 page not found”

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Hmm. Interesting.

Comes up fine for me

It still comes up for me, and this is what I see now when I click the comment button, although I can still view it with the current wording. Even more interesting. :thinking:

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It’s a GR rule proposal and fortunately, enough dressage judges caught wind of it before it took it’s final steps to passing. We all should be looking at the rule proposals but I admit, I read the DR proposals and only glance at the rest.
Word on the street is this is a reaction to antics currently taking place in the H/J community where trainers who are judges get show dates, clients “quit” 30 days before the scheduled show, compete under said judge, and one day 31, move back into a trainer/client relationship.
Legal under the current USEF regulations but as a repeated behavior - ethically questionable.
One must assume that it’s becoming an unfortunate a-typical behavior for this proposal to gain legs.
Maybe the answer is to extend the time a part to something that would truly cause a financial burden to the rule abusers - say 90 or 120 days.

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So then change 30 days to 6 months. Problem fixed.

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We all need the USEF. Let’s start with Animal Welfare
Drug testing. Along side some but not all states because not all states are in the position to drug test, the USEF coordinates all drug testing on competition grounds. (Not sure if it’s still currently the case but the AQHA was using the USEF to run it’s drug testing program) And not just the end result testing - research attempting to stay ahead of the constantly evolving drug abuse in equestrian sports.
Illegal use and abusive use of equipment.
Then there’s the official licensing, show licensing, and Safe Sport.
That’s a tiny list.
The national affiliates aren’t financially or architecturally in the position to take the place of the USEF.
Let the national affiliates do what they do best - training, education, awards

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I don’t need the USEF at all.

If they want to make their customers and members happy then they should do that.

If they want to govern by ridiculous dictate then I’ll go somewhere else. Lots of horse clubs around.

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Aren’t rule change proposals in the works for awhile before they make it this far ? There’s a form to complete by a member, explaining the proposed change, and why it’s necessary. The relevant committee reviews it and moves it forward, or rejects it.

For this proposal to even be thought of and then submitted, there must have been a big problem some where. Another poster mentioned it started in Hunter/Jumper land. So many issues seem to start there.

Edited to add: The topic is getting light reading on the H/J forum. Someone posted that the rule change came from Paso Finos (and other breeds).

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USDF could never afford that. :frowning:

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As long as dressage remains an Olympic sport, USDF cannot be the the NGO. There can only be one, and for Equestrian, like it or not, that’s USEF.

Now, for the non-Olympic disciplines/breeds, eventually they may decide to break away, but they would have to be able to handle things like judge training, rule creation, etc.

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And I saw that someone posted in the H/J thread that it was breed/saddle seat people who started this petition is that correct info? If so it’s a much smaller group of competitors and maybe they do think it’s unfair but they should not dictate a whole USDF change in policy

I find that really hard to believe. Compared to other disciplines in USEF the breeds have much fewer R judges. I cannot imagine that this petition would have come from any of them unless it is those folks that we all know who never are at fault when they don’t get pinned.

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Nope. The Arab people are losing their shit over it.

People gossiping about something doesn’t mean it actually happened.

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I can’t imagine the disaster this would be for the Arabian division. Ye gods.

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Maybe the answer is to make it a rule specific to H/J or whatever discipline or breed is having the issue. The answer is not to apply this draconian nonsense across the board as the rule proposal wants to do.

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Well the same is being said here about the hunters so who knows!

Per Janet Foy on her FB page “it is a few bad apples that have a horse and rider leave the barn 31 days prior to a competition. Then they judge this person. And this person moves back into the barn the next day after the competition. Wording is needed to address that”

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I would agree, but the wording needs to be a bit more thought out.