Are you sure? I thought they were made in another country. He used to sell Prestige. When he sold Prestige, he wasn’t making saddles.
He does not make the saddles…he sends all of the specs to England and has them made by someone over there.
I’m not concerned if the saddles are put together in England, there are very good saddle makers in England. The design and materials and fit is what is important.
While this is a bit off topic, I just wanted to point out that the Laser CM ultimate fit my guy with the “unfittable” shoulder really well. It is adjustable, comfortable and has lasted brilliantly for me.
http://www.laserequestrian.com/
Gusseted Verhan cost
I had it gusseted last year in Canada, British Columbia for about $300.00.
The saddle fitter from Vancouver that did it was not too keen on it but he did a marvelous professional job. Apparently the inside is like the wool flocking goes into a felt envelop whch is inside the panel. So he had to cut the felt to get in there It sounded like a lot of the saddles don’d have that felt lining.
The Verhan tends to bemore banana shape and so initially it was not a problem for my young horse which was from the holsteiner line i.e. a bit sway back let’s say. But as his back develop it started to rock that no floking could help. I have to say that I prefer having gusset in a saddle as it gives more optionfor reflocking as long as the gussets don’t bring the padding too far back behind the saddle.
If you want I can send you a picture of the saddle.
Sorry to bump up late/show up late to the party, but just to say: I do like my Odyssey I. A lot. I think Beau likes it–about as much as he can like any saddle :rolleyes:–honking big shark-fin withers and all. In fact, part of the reason I got it was the honking big withers + skinny/odd build to fit. [Any other (OT)TB folks here tired of answering non-horsey friends/family, “Yes, s/he’s SUPPOSED to look like that”?] I just got Sick and Tired of dragging home saddles to try and none of them really worked. Poor boy still has bald spots by his withers from bad saddles before I got him :no: (Anyone know anything to help re-fuzz/heal that?)
It’s been about a year and working and holding up wonderfully; I ride on avg. 5-6x a week and clean it 1x a week with glycerine soap, just a bit of water, dry off quick and well, balsam (they recommend Effax but I’ve been using the Super VII I already had on hand w/good results) every time. FWIW, I spent a bit more–figured if I were going to hell, I might as well get 1st class tix–and opted for the buffalo, which might affect things. Yes, it’s a nice option 
No, I don’t know how it is w/o it.
On my side of things, I like the seat. (On the one occasion he spooked, I joked either it’s a good seat, or my seat’s improved; my teacher said “Yes”.) She’s had Stubbens and Schleeses and when she rode him, was actually pretty impressed with it…so maybe there might be something to that name recognition thing.
From what I’ve seen so far, I recommend the saddle, and in buffalo, too, but also want to point out that the gent who did it (Cork’s in Paola, in my case) did custom measurements–which is why it’s working so well on Beau. Because of this, I honestly don’t know about what kind of results you’d get from someone else’s unless they were pretty close in build. Me, I’ve once or twice gotten barely-broken-in shoes at vintage shops but still wasn’t crazy about re-breaking them in once I got them home 
As a 5’3" person w/a tough-to-fit TB, I can say I’m happy with it. If you still want to know about those serial no’s., he’ll be in the area checking up on other people’s saddles he’s measured for/sold in a couple of weeks and I can ask.
I’m told the saddles are NOT stitched in England, but that the frame is assembled there. The frame is made from Sprenger hardware.
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I’m told the saddles are NOT stitched in England, but that the frame is assembled there. The frame is made from Sprenger hardware.[/QUOTE]
i would like you to say that to many a good saddler that makes there own saddles we have a wide choice
so i strongly disagree with you and as you arnt british then you cant say that
www.mastersaddlers.co.uk
"i would like you to say that to many a good saddler that makes there own saddles we have a wide choice
so i strongly disagree with you and as you arnt british then you cant say that
www.mastersaddlers.co.uk"
LOL.
“you arnt british then you cant say that”
LOL. Come on gls. It’s enough already. You aren’t American so you can’t tell me what to say, LOL. It’s a ridiculous statement. I can’t say that there are plenty of great saddlers in England, which appears to be exactly what you were saying? Americans have bought saddles made in England for a very long time because of the quality.
What I wrote, if you had read it, which I doubt, is that there are many wonderful artisans in England who can assemble saddles and it wouldnt bother me a bit if Verhan saddles were stitched up there. So far, we think the saddle frame is assembled in England and sent to the US for final stitching.
Either way I couldn’t care less where what is done as I’m sure the maker chooses fantastic materials and does a great job. The workmaship and leather is lovely, and for a custom measured saddle it’s a heck of a deal.
Most products these days are very international. Top quality leather is getting harder and harder to get and people go further afield to get it.
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"i would like you to say that to many a good saddler that makes there own saddles we have a wide choice
so i strongly disagree with you and as you arnt british then you cant say that
www.mastersaddlers.co.uk"
LOL.
“you arnt british then you cant say that”
LOL. Come on gls. It’s enough already. You aren’t American so you can’t tell me what to say, LOL. It’s a ridiculous statement. I can’t say that there are plenty of great saddlers in England, which appears to be exactly what you were saying? Americans have bought saddles made in England for a very long time because of the quality.
What I wrote, if you had read it, which I doubt, is that there are many wonderful artisans in England who can assemble saddles and it wouldnt bother me a bit if Verhan saddles were stitched up there. So far, we think the saddle frame is assembled in England and sent to the US for final stitching.
Either way I couldn’t care less where what is done as I’m sure the maker chooses fantastic materials and does a great job. The workmaship and leather is lovely, and for a custom measured saddle it’s a heck of a deal.
Most products these days are very international. Top quality leather is getting harder and harder to get and people go further afield to get it.[/QUOTE]
always back peddaling
what a strange thread!
I will say i do get tired of reading attack posts, especially when the attacker clearly hasn’t read what the attackee has posted. very bizarre…
cant we just not act like school children?
Ok ya talked me into it, LOL. And a girth, the special leathers, and buckets of their saddle conditioner, LOL.
Bernardo is really absolutely brilliant, he is the real deal. He watches you ride, he palpates the horse’s back, gets a history on the horse, goes over the tack you have, he talks to your trainer…plus he rides and teaches dressage.
You had B come to your place and do all this? When was that? I thought he wasn’t travelling right now as he is so busy, or perhaps you live really nearby?(lucky you)
What time frame did he give you on your saddle being delivered?
He’ll want to see it ON the horse once it gets here, as well, and make minor adjustments.
Acco
you have a pm
Have you gotten the serial # question answered?
for example: 0404122818 the first 4 numbers are the month and yr build
the next for numbers are the tree size. 1228 , as I understand it is fairly narrow. the last 2 numbers is the seat size. 
I spoke to Verhan on the phone, they are extremely helpful.
-Stacey
DROOOL!
