Vet Bill Arrives 2 Years Later

This is a very succinct way of putting it, and yiuvebhit the nail on the head. At this point it’s essentially a “he said/she said” because it’s equally plausible that they never billed you or that you paid and they never realized it. Two years after the face, the onus is on them to prove the discrepancy is correct and there’s no real way to do that minus impeccable records (if they can provide a statement of your last five transactions with them and method & total of payment - if by check should include check #, credit card should indicate the last digits of the card number, then I would consider that maybe they aren’t wrong in saying you owe whatever amount - but the odds of just about any vendor being able to produce this without discrepancy are very low. It’s why audits of companies are such a pain) therefore, I still conclude you’re in the clear.

I hope you’ll update us with how this progresses after you speak with them! I’m very curious to see how they respond.

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Is the bill itemized with dates of service?

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Wait 2 years and see if they send a past due notice

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“Even if it’s itemized I won’t know for sure if my horse did get the banamine or if I already paid part or all of the bill.”

How do you itemize a bill that is for a shot of banamine, much less only pay part of it? Your story is strange.

I don’t find the story strange at all, the OP is responding to people who suggested getting a detailed/itemized printout of the account, and is saying it doesn’t matter how detailed a printout might be, it was 2-3 years ago and (very reasonably) would be hard to remember what was or was not done on any dates provided, or what might have already been paid for but not accounted for accurately.

OP, no way would I just pay it, but I also wouldn’t ignore it. I would call them and say you were under the impression your account was current after the last go-round of belated invoicing, that this makes no sense, and you have no way of verifying these services were actually provided now or the amounts are correct/unpaid after that this much time has passed.

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“How do you itemize a bill that is for a shot of banamine, much less only pay part of it? Your story is strange.” I was using banamine as an example of one of the products/services this vet may have done. My story is strange??? It isn’t a story! Not sure why you are nitpicking on something that isn’t even an issue. I already have the input I was seeking. I’m all good now. Edited to add I went ahead and paid the bill. I am reasonably certain now that the bill was for routine vaccinations. If he received the service I pay the bill, even 2 yrs later.

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But I sure could cross check the dates with my log of where my horse was… no match, no pay

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I wouldn’t expect a client to pay two years after the fact, either.

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Post 1 and again in Post 18. Why would your horse need banamine at a horse show anyway? Did he colic? Wouldn’t you remember that?

I had something similar happen with a collections notice arriving some 6 years and change after the vet appointment.

Horse had abscess; barn owner had her vet look at the horse. I couldn’t be there because of work. Vet leaves me an astronomical bill including about $100 worth of extra bandage material I didn’t need (at veterinary markup prices) and a $90 herbal hoof supplement I didn’t want. I called him after the fact and asked him to take his vet wrap and supplement back, which he did. I paid him for the actual visit. I thought we were square.

Apparently he died a few years after that and his widow sent all his open invoices to collections. However he filed the paperwork, he didn’t credit my account for the returned items even though he took them back, so now I was receiving a collections notice for their cost + 6 years interest. I called the widow and tried to explain and she would not back down. I begrudgingly paid because it was the easiest option.

No :eek: just NO ! …:mad:

[B]yes I’d think about it & worry about it but then ( even as an always do what’s right person)

I’d post it on a wall calendar and hopefully find the good sense to laugh :lol: at it !

:yes: forget about this ignorance from a professional :confused: organization

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If you are local to this vet, don’t call, go to their office in person and make them prove to you that the bill is correct. If they don’t have records from that time/visit (and they look original to that period and not recently created), make them go back thru your records to see if it was posted in your file, then don’t pay.

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I would be in the same boat as the OP. I do not have a “log of where my was” to match to.

To me the OP’s posts make perfect sense. The vet billing this much later, not so much.

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I’m sorry, but I don’t understand the lack of record-keeping. Everything I’ve ever spent on my mare is in a file folder in my desk . Receipts from the veterinarian with payment information, her registration papers the receipt from when I bought her it’s all there, and if you keep up as you go it’s not that hard to do. I know I only have one horse, and it might be different if you have 20. But record-keeping is still important.

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Seriously! How rude can one be??

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I can´t see how the vet is making any money this way? Vet should get a accountant to send out bills.

Ask for a printout of every service this vet rendered to your horse and copies of all statements you were sent by this vet. Then you can compare, from your bank, copies of all checks to this vet. I’d pay if I owed it. But if I did not owe it, I’d tell vet that this was outrageous to ask for money for a bill already paid. Slow billing is one thing. Billing after a year is outrageous. Billing after 2 years is nuts! But if I owed it I’d pay. But then I’m neurotic and if I don’t get a vet bill at the end of each month, I email or call the vet office manager and ask why they did not bill me.

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Everyone does life differently.

It is great that you can pull out of a folder where your horse was on Tuesday July 13, 2010.
I can’t do that.
There is no receipt from the horse show (any that I have gone to) so nothing to put in the folder for that.

I do save vet receipts.

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I’ve had billing issues with my vet practice twice in the past. For reference, I used a large practice with multiple vets, its own clinic/office building and a sizeable administrative staff with a very good reputation in the area. Not going to name names, as I always had a great clinical experience with the vets and would continue to use them if I still had horses, just with immaculate treatment and payment records on my end.

I received all of my invoices via email. The incorrect bill came a few months after I moved barns. I got a bill for a farm call, exam, and 60 tabs of Previcox (plus interest charges as apparently the bill was about 60 days old - this was my first invoice received). I reached out to them right away to let them know this wasn’t my horse and my horse wasn’t even kept on the property anymore.

The second bill came after my mare had to be euthanized due to severe illness. I knew this bill was coming, obviously and that it was going to be a monster - but when it didn’t arrive after 30 days, I did think it was odd and made a note with myself to follow up with them. They had actually sent me a sympathy card in the mail, but no final bill. Then, about a week later the Friday before a holiday weekend, the vet office billing person calls me to ask if I want to apply for CareCredit. Um…I don’t know, how much do I owe you guys? She says she wanted to call because she noticed I had a large balance on my account that hadn’t been paid in over 30 days. I told them I’d never received a bill, and to please send me an invoice for the charges and I’d gladly pay them. She tells me she sent one on date month before this conversation, and I go back through all of my emails from vet practice and read her the date and the charge amounts on each of them. You guys know how to send bills to me, I have a history of prompt payment (for bills that I actually owe), and if you’d have sent me one I’d have either paid or reached out to you by now.

She then finally sends me a bill for the current charges - thankfully less than I was expecting and less than my cap for medical care. I then called the office manager to request the interest charges waived on the bill I never received in the first place, and to arrange a time for me to drop off the ice boots they had left me for treatment that I had forgotten to return on the euthanasia appointment. Office manager was very accommodating, and as soon as the new bill without interest charges was sent, I immediately paid in full.

Now to be fair, I should’ve called them about the bill beforehand. However, I was grieving the sudden and traumatic loss of my horse and I was kind of dreading the bill as it would kind of make everything more real and concrete. As I said, I’ve only had great experiences with the actual veterinarians and the office manager, but the billing does leave a lot to be desired and I am especially unimpressed with the billing employee who didn’t recognize that the owner of a horse who was euthanized and sent a sympathy card by the practice probably doesn’t need to be lectured about interest charges and CareCredit.

All of that said, billing 2 years after the fact is really beyond the pale. I used to work in medical billing (human), and our rule was that if we didn’t discover something hadn’t been billed within a year of receiving final determination from their insurance company, it was considered uncollectable and eaten as an adminstrative expense.

Some people give injectable Banamine 12 hours out from a horse show as a routine or if a horse had a hard first day at a show and competes again the next day (rather than 2 grams of bute 12 hours out or 57 mg of Previcox 12 hours out). It is permitted under Canadian drug rules (if given the way I described), which are much stricter than American ones, so I can’t imagine it isn’t allowed there as well. I am as stringently anti-drug as they come, but I don’t have an issue with a horse getting a bit of anti-inflammatory/pain relief if they are working hard–heck, I’ll take Advil if I’m showing multiple days for the muscle soreness, why shouldn’t the horse get something? I haven’t personally given Banamine for showing purposes but I know people who do.

So no, colic is not the only explanation for a horse receiving Banamine and if the OP used Banamine as part of the show routine it is likely she wouldn’t be able to confirm for sure if it was a bill she actually owed or not, especially if she only used Banamine sometimes at shows, not always.

Some of us are obsessive record keepers (guilty) and I keep receipts from all the horse shows I go to so yes, I would be able to look up and figure out if I had gone to a horse show on a particular date. But I don’t blame people who aren’t that organized or don’t have online banking–different people do things differently.

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