Vet for PPE in Coatesville, PA?

[sockmonkey]

clarification of interns, residents and vet students

As a veterinarian who studied at New Bolton I would like to clear up something. There is a huge difference between vet students, interns and residents. Interns and residents are actual doctors. They graduated vet school. Most interns have just graduated. Most equine residencies last 3 years, with the residents having completed a one-year internship first. When you go to NBC, and get “a vet” you could easily get a resident, but you eventually see a senior clinician. Under no circumstances would a vet student perform flexion tests, or any tests for that matter. The most a student would do is hold your horse and jog it. Students don’t get to do anything. I believe Dr. Ben Martin is still there, and he does the PPEs. He’s excellent. But my take home point is that interns and residents ARE doctors not vet students.

[faybe]

[QUOTE=sockmonkey;7532048]
As a veterinarian who studied at New Bolton I would like to clear up something. There is a huge difference between vet students, interns and residents. Interns and residents are actual doctors. They graduated vet school. Most interns have just graduated. Most equine residencies last 3 years, with the residents having completed a one-year internship first. When you go to NBC, and get “a vet” you could easily get a resident, but you eventually see a senior clinician. Under no circumstances would a vet student perform flexion tests, or any tests for that matter. The most a student would do is hold your horse and jog it. Students don’t get to do anything. I believe Dr. Ben Martin is still there, and he does the PPEs. He’s excellent. But my take home point is that interns and residents ARE doctors not vet students.[/QUOTE]

Another New Bolton grad, seconding everything here. The only students who would be participating in a PPE would be on a Sports Medicine rotation (only available to Equine track 4th year students- so, at the very least, someone who has horse experience/is comfortable working around them). And, of course, by “participating”, I mean, “observing”. I believe I flexed exactly 1 horse as a student, and it was a client I knew from the local horse community (who knew I had sport horse experience).

Ben Martin is, I believe, officially retired now, but Elizabeth Davidson is there and you could not ask for a more thorough PPE.

[judybigredpony]

Sock monkey. And Faybe…The last time a client had NBC come to my farm for a pre purchase was the last…Everyone had a go at the physical…one resident Intern ??
Was listening to the heart of a very large thin skinned fit OTTB and remarked out loud in front of Buy Hey listen to this Heart murmur…To which thenAttending took their stethoscope to listen and proceed to proclaim it was dropped beat…The Buyer was white with fright and almost walked…They took,turns palpating the legs and again a voiced declaration of a Hey gee feel this thinks it’s been bowed…NOT…had to split cost of an U/S to prove to Buyer …I absolutely support the teaching but NOT on a sale horse…There are privacy issues and need to know and non were followed that day. If I had a busy public place lots of overheard miss information could have ruined a perfectly good sale. The Attending took the buyer off and had a private chat as it should be and Buyer calmed down and bought the horse…She to said never never again…To many cooks to many comments…that was 7 or 8 years ago…I welcome residents and interns in a hospital setting or emergency call or routine work BUT not on my Sale Horses.

[faybe]

Field Service is tough (high rate of turnover as mostly staffed by residents who are only there 3-4 years) and actually didn’t even cross my mind when thinking about a PPE. I assumed a haul-in to the clinic to see the Sports Medicine service, which was my mistake. All bets are off on a field service rotation in terms of the number and equine experience of the students you would have. The situation you described is certainly not appropriate and not something I ever experienced as a student, but then again, I was mostly a “keep your mouth shut unless asked a direct question in front of the client” type.

As an aside, I heard frequent complaints about the Field Service dept at NBC from members of the horse community while I was there (all of them from experiences >5 yrs ago), which is really a shame since everyone I interacted with there was really quite wonderful and taught me a lot. I will say that they suffer from a high rate of turnover- most of the FS staff are residents overseen by a handful of senior clinicians; the resident turnover rate is high (by nature) so it can be luck of the draw who you get out if you call and schedule an appt with “first available”.

[bornfreenowexpensive]

I used to use the field service at NB many years ago (maybe >10) and it was great but when the vet I primarily used went into a local private practice…I followed him. When I did use them, they were very good about asking before letting a student do anything with my horse. But agree…a herd of students isn’t ideal for a PPE.

Honestly…there are so many good sport vets in the area it is crazy. We are extremely lucky. Hope the horses asked about in this thread all passed their PPE with flying colors.

[kcmel]

Well, the OPs passed :), but not mine. Cataracts in both eyes:(. I have terrible luck with vettings. (And the one I bought 3 years ago that passed with flying colors is now retired).

[vxf111]

oh kcmel, sorry to hear that!

[Pandora]

I have known Steve for years, fantastic vet and also an eventer.

[ise]

I’m glad that one of the people posting on here that their situation wasn’t a good one at NBC - clarified that it was 7 or 8 years ago. I wouldn’t make a decision based on an event that far in the past.

[kayfry]

[QUOTE=Xctrygirl;7526145]
Celia Goodall, New Bolton Field Service, Kevin Keane, Barb Stewart, Steve Berkowitz/Mark Donaldson.

Pick any of the above.

~Emily[/QUOTE]

Does anyone know if Celia Goodall is with Delaware Equine Center now?