LOL, Romany, that took me a minute.
hee heee
I keep reading it as Tortilas.
Am I the only one!!?
Gorgeous horse, thanks for posting!
It’s pronounced like Tortillas, but then without the R: Toh-til-as
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hee heee
I keep reading it as Tortilas.
Am I the only one!!?
Gorgeous horse, thanks for posting![/QUOTE]
Just simple Toe (like in one toe, two toes) Ti, like in Tea and Las like in Las Vegas
Wow - what a pleasure to watch and what an inspiration. Thanks for posting that - I enjoyed watching it twice and was so enthralled. For me, it was a real treat!
P.S. - Ginger - you asked who composed the music - there is another thread titled “Gribaldi Stallion” in this forum that shows this same video and it has the composer listed.
Thank you kraslad!!
Wow. Just outstanding! I really love this horse. He looks better everytime I see him. THanks Theo!
Beautiful horse. But, did anyone else get the feeling of a big lick walker when he did an extended trot? It looks a bit over the top.
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Beautiful horse. But, did anyone else get the feeling of a big lick walker when he did an extended trot? It looks a bit over the top.[/QUOTE]
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
omg this is so rich
Hmm, not so much a big licker, I’d say more of an old-school arabian park horse (lots of toe flicking on those guys) haha. But, to be fair, he’s really much freer and balanced = ) Also, I like a flashy mover, so it doesn’t bother me, haha. Well, I guess I could do with a teeeensy bit less toe flick (but that’s just my own personal taste), and he really does have a lovely style. Such suspension and cadence!
I certainly don’t think it’s crazy to compare his movement to some of the more “show” type horses, but I don’t think that it has to be a bad thing. Most dressage horses with the ability to move like that are also trained for years at lower levels and develop a more correct balance and relaxation that allows a gait like that to really shine. The saddle seat types with talent like that tend to get rushed, so the gait becomes less fluid (I come from a saddle seat background originally, and while this isn’t always the case, I have to admit that a saddle seat horse does not usually get as much attention paid to the “basics” of training because it’s not as necessary for the end goal).
Just my opinion, but I don’t think a big trot has to be a bad thing. Especially when it is done so beautifully = ) I quite like him. His suspension is beautiful, and his passage is so square, balanced, and cadenced. Love it. He’ll certainly be one to watch.
I LOVED his piaffe, loved it. I am so tired of seeing rider try to “pump” out a piaffe with their upper body. His Pirouette was wonderful too. I liked all of his collected work, actually. Very expressive and lovely to watch. And! YAY for Gribaldi, good boy! :winkgrin:
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I LOVED his piaffe, loved it. I am so tired of seeing rider try to “pump” out a piaffe with their upper body. His Pirouette was wonderful too. I liked all of his collected work, actually. Very expressive and lovely to watch. And! YAY for Gribaldi, good boy! :winkgrin:[/QUOTE]
I love this expression “pump out a piaffe with their upper body” , because this is so true, and now you have found the right words for it.
I trully believe that the breeders of today did a wonderfull job, because we see more and more horses who offer this difficult movement by nature.
Theo
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Beautiful horse. But, did anyone else get the feeling of a big lick walker when he did an extended trot? It looks a bit over the top.[/QUOTE]
The thought I had was to draw a number line, with zero in the middle, as “average”. The range for “normal” horses would be, say, minus 35 to positive 35. Western pleasure horses would be at about, say, minus 50. And this horse, at maybe plus 65.
But definitely not in the “normal” range.
I hope these cart type-moving horses make in the dressage ring because in the past failed dressage horses often would be picked up by hunter/jumper people but with movement like this, they are useless to those disciplines.
Haha, I love how we call them cart type movers. I can’t see a horse like this failing in the dressage ring, so it’s probably not a big concern that he wouldn’t excel in the hunter world (who knows, maybe he can jump the moon too). A horse with movement like that is really unlikely to have a problem finding a home I think. And really, an actual “cart” horse doesn’t really move like this… This guy’s just flashy.
Certainly not to everyone’s taste, but everyone likes to use the argument that a horse with less flashy movement should be able to do better than the flashy mover if he performs the test better. So why can’t a flashy mover be a winner if he performs the test better? I think there is room for a variety of types in dressage. Keeps things interesting. This horse is neat, even if he’s not everyone’s picture of an ideal mover. I quite enjoy watching a horse with expressive movement if he can maintain a good brain at the same time. I think more novice spectators are likely to enjoy it as well. It adds a little excitment to the ring = )
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I hope these cart type-moving horses make in the dressage ring because in the past failed dressage horses often would be picked up by hunter/jumper people but with movement like this, they are useless to those disciplines.[/QUOTE]
I think this horse is going to more than “make it in the dressage ring” he all ready holds world record GP scores for horses his or age younger.
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I hope these cart type-moving horses make in the dressage ring because in the past failed dressage horses often would be picked up by hunter/jumper people but with movement like this, they are useless to those disciplines.[/QUOTE]
Ridgeback,
Be happy this “cart” horse don’t start at the next Worldcup Qualifier at Den Bosch ;)
Comprende !
Aaron and Theo please read what I wrote…Thank you! If I have to spell it out to you I SAID, I hope these cart type-moving horses make it in the dressage ring…
I wasn’t speaking about that horse specifically. I’m personally not a fan of the way he moves but if this is what the dressage world wants then have at it I don’t care. I was merely pointing out not every horse that moves like this(meaning such high action) will make it in the dressage ring and with that kind of movement hunter/jumper people probably won’t want them either. I hope Europe has a lot of pleasure horse riders that will buy the ones that don’t make it.
P.S. My first comment was based on Theo congratulating the breeders for breeding horses like this.
Perhaps I’m misunderstanding you, but are you saying that breeding horses like this is not to be congratulated? Even if you don’t like his movement, you have to admit he does his job brilliantly.
I guess I also don’t get the resistance towards horses that move this way. Sure, his extended trot is a little toe flickier than I like, but the rest of him is wonderful, so that’s just a tiny little personal preference. Also, what’s wrong with a dynamic mover in general? So they have a little more motion and elevation in their front end, I think spectators like to see this. As long as we don’t sacrifice the rest of the performance for its flashy movement, I guess I don’t see the problem…
