ridgeback - your logic isn’t quite on target… Just because you think Totilas has “cart-horse type movement” doesn’t mean other folks do. Ergo, no need to worry prematurely about the hunter people not wanting horses like Totilas.
So you don’t like the horse’s trot… how about his piaffe and passage? What did you think of those movements?
Well I don’t know about Ridgeback, but me personally, well I can’t avoid the weird computer type in this instance - OMG drool - haha. I usually try to avoid those things, but that’s how I really feel = )
:lol: seigi, try reading for comprehension.
Ridegback already wrote that comment wasn’t directed at Tortilas.
Take another shot at post 38 – and good luck.
It’s really too funny you’re complaining about ridgeback’s logic …
:lol: seigi, try reading for comprehension.
Ridegback already wrote that comment wasn’t directed at Totilas.
Take another shot at posts 38, 34 – and good luck.
It’s really too funny you’re complaining about ridgeback’s logic …
:lol: siegi, try reading for comprehension.
Ridegback already wrote that comment wasn’t directed at Totilas.
Take another shot at post 38 – and good luck.
It’s really too funny you’re complaining about ridgeback’s logic …
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ridgeback - your logic isn’t quite on target… Just because you think Totilas has “cart-horse type movement” doesn’t mean other folks do. Ergo, no need to worry prematurely about the hunter people not wanting horses like Totilas.
So you don’t like the horse’s trot… how about his piaffe and passage? What did you think of those movements?[/QUOTE]
Siegi I think you are missing what I was trying to say. I am not worried it was more like food for thought. Theo was happy with the breeders for breeding horses that naturally do piaffe and passage and with that you get tons of action up front(saddlebred or cart horse type movement). This is fine if that is what the dressage world wants I am not making a judgment about it. I am just pointing out that not all of them will make it in the dressage ring and in the past, many of those horses had a career in the hunter or jumper ring. It appears dressage horses are becoming highly specialized which will pigeon hole them into that discipline. I personally like a well rounded horse not just one’s that have super piaffe’s and passage and to be honest I couldn’t finish watching the video after the extended trot. I am not saying I am right about this specific horse it is completely personal preference.
Ridgeback,
You better switch over to TOB, because you will get more applause over there.
Theo
So, I here people say that a lot. What exactly is TOB? The Other Board? What is that?
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"Classical dressage can be translated, “fine training” - capriole, piaffe, levade - yet it’s more than that. It defines quality in horsemanship at every stage, even at, and most importantly at, the “lowest levels”. Classical dressage is about aspiring to perfection; perfect communication, perfect balance, perfect coordination, perfect feel, perfect timing, perfect harmony. Relentlessly striving to improve skill and understanding and raising the bar, yet never being satisfied that we, as riders, have truly achieved perfection on our part. We can always be more subtle in our aiding. We can always have more feel. However, this striving for perfection is not just so we can pat ourselves on the back, thinking we’re somehow superior. It is truly because when we strive to ride better, it’s beneficial to the horse. The purpose behind classical dressage is to improve the experience for the horse. Characteristics of classical dressage are, imperceptible aids given by the rider, precision and light contact with the bit that results from gymnastically increasing the bending and weight carrying ability of the haunches and an obvious expression of enjoyment in the horse. Horses that are strong enough and riders who are interested can go on to the extremely collected movements and airs above the ground. " QUOTE
The above definition, for me, defines what I see in Edward Gal and Totilas.
I grew up thinking Dressage was proper schooling of ANY horse regardless of movement. Yes, this horse is an extreme mover, which I for one, foind breathtaking. Each to their own.
I see a Forward, Strong, Athletic, Happy horse versus many tense ones in the ring today…for me a Glorious duo.
But I only ride lower level dressae and hunter…so I know nothing…nor to I pretend to…Totilas can park himself in my barn anytime 
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Ridgeback,
You better switch over to TOB, because you will get more applause over there.
Theo[/QUOTE]
Theo this is just one example where you and I are different, I’m not looking for applause:lol::lol: :winkgrin:
[QUOTE=ridgeback;3957651]
Theo this is just one example where you and I are different, I’m not looking for applause:lol::lol: :winkgrin:[/QUOTE]
Look at your blind admiration for Catherine Haddad :D:lol:
You travelled from forum to forum to blow the trumpet about this rider 
And when people started bashing her you toke down the videos.
As stated before be happy that Edward and Totilas don’t start at Den Bosch, because this way CH can earn an extra point 
Theo
[QUOTE=freestyle2music;3957806]
Look at your blind admiration for Catherine Haddad :D:lol:
You travelled from forum to forum to blow the trumpet about this rider And when people started bashing her you toke down the videos.
As stated before be happy that Edward and Totilas don’t start at Den Bosch, because this way CH can earn an extra point
Theo[/QUOTE]
Again missing the point Theo:D I can assure you I don’t have blind admiration for Haddad I have a 20+ friendship with her. By the way I did not take down the video of CH riding and no one bashed her I took down the videos of the other riders because they were bashing them and making all kinds of assumptions about what they were or weren’t doing…Facts darlin Facts. Personally because of the limited number of wild cards I’m guessing she won’t be going.
It’s not done (at least not in this country) to post private message’s you have send me, but since you call me a liar :
Quote:
Originally Posted by ridgeback
I took down the videos…Those people on that other board are crazy… They were writing novels like slc about a 30 second video…You were right calling me ignorant but I would have used the world naive.
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It’s not done (at least not in this country) to post private message’s you have send me, but since you call me a liar :[/QUOTE]
I’m so flattered you keep my pm’s…
I realize I should have been more clear I took down the videos of the other riders the Haddad videos are still up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD_lQdYAqDY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab3HbyMtI88
Just to be clear I never called you a liar you were just mis-informed…My God Theo relax…maybe you need some sleep what time is it there?
Good time for an apology Theo or do they not do that where you come from?:lol::lol::lol::lol:
lovely ride
not much more to say. I could only dream of being part of a team that produces this end result. The breeder, rider and care givers that have been behind getting this horse to this performance should be proud. I would be! and some off comment on a board about a cart horse sure wouldn’t make a difference in my day, however, watching the video again and again… that would
As a Trakehner breeder this certainly makes me proud
Go Team Totilas
I don’t give a rats ass what was said in a PM. To me they are PRIVATE MESSAGES and to act like little kiddies when you should be more grown up…get out and ride more it may do you guys some good.
Theo…I personally like to see the videos but don’t fall for all the baiting that is done. Just post them and let us enjoy them. Those that don’t, well they can go elsewhere and mouth off.
Ridgeback you need to get out and off the computer more.
[QUOTE=~Freedom~;3961539]
I don’t give a rats ass what was said in a PM. To me they are PRIVATE MESSAGES and to act like little kiddies when you should be more grown up…get out and ride more it may do you guys some good.
Theo…I personally like to see the videos but don’t fall for all the baiting that is done. Just post them and let us enjoy them. Those that don’t, well they can go elsewhere and mouth off.
Ridgeback you need to get out and off the computer more.[/QUOTE]
Excuse me Freedom…I don’t post that often but when someone can’t read what I wrote or accuses me of calling them a liar I will respond. Try looking at my number of posts compared to most on this board maybe you should take your own advice. If Theo had checked out what I had said before posting a private PM, he would have seen that I DID NOT take down the Haddad videos. Get over yourself! I see we are only allowed to respond to a video if it agrees with you Freedom?? Give me a break!
Saw them in real life
His mare is by Glendale who is by the wellknown jumper sire Nimmerdor and his mothers mare is by sire Akteur. Akteur (sire Amor) did great in international jumping, He had children that did great in dressage and jumping.
I had the pleasure of seeing Edward ride both Gribaldi and Lingh on national tests and shows and saw Totilas under Edward in Rotterdam last year. I must say no other horse/stallion under Edward was this relaxed, but yet with so much power and so fluent and so motivated to work. It was a joy to see them work and see them ride the victory lap. I think this horse has talent and enough extra power through his jumper bloodlines.
I myself own a horse that has a lot of Trakehner blood and he has a very good shoulder and foreleg and lots of space and action. Isn’t that something that is a bit more Trakehner thing?
And perhaps also a park horse thing;-) but I really don’t see much in common between them and Totilas. Certainly not the Totilas I saw in real life.
[QUOTE=~Freedom~;3961539]
I don’t give a rats ass what was said in a PM. To me they are PRIVATE MESSAGES and to act like little kiddies when you should be more grown up…get out and ride more it may do you guys some good.
Theo…I personally like to see the videos but don’t fall for all the baiting that is done. Just post them and let us enjoy them. Those that don’t, well they can go elsewhere and mouth off.
Ridgeback you need to get out and off the computer more.[/QUOTE]
Freedom, I hope you understand that I have been asked many times by riders (my clients) not to post these videos, because they don’t like, nor have the time, to defend themselves or their horses against these keyboard sharks.
I am in the process to set up a “friends-only” forum and videoblog where people don’t hide behind a “screenname”. Because only in this way I can get the riders, trainers, sponsors and judges interrested to join these discussions.
And believe me, being part of over 20 dressageforums from all over the world, COTH is the most modest one when it comes down to butchering the riders, horses, trainers and trainingsystems.
Theo
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