Vintage tan Dehner boots

I’m not the seller of these boots, but I spotted them on eBay and SOMEONE should get them…the measurements tell me they’ll be too big for me.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220789626921&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Tan Dehner field boots with the triple buckles in very good condition.

They’re too big for me, too.

Fortunately, I’ve already made up my mind to order a 3-buckle pair of new Dehners later this summer. :slight_smile: It’s my consolation gift to myself for not being able to go back to Europe this year.

Same here. What a pity, they are in really good condition and with character.

Haha! I have huge feet since my second pregnancy! Are we thinking the 12" is exterior measurement of the foot? What do we think the interior measurement might be? Any experts in cobblery skills out there?

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Are we thinking the 12" is exterior measurement of the foot? What do we think the interior measurement might be? Any experts in cobblery skills out there?[/QUOTE]
I do think the 12" length is measured on the bottom of the sole but I asked that question of the seller. Who knows, his answer may be up already.

Now, I’m not cobbler but I can tell you that I measured the sole of my best fitting pair of boots and while they are marked (men’s) 7 1/2 EE, the sole is 10 1/2" in length. If I was going to guess, a man’s 12" sole is probably a 9 to 9 1/2 shoe size.

Darn your hide. Hinderelle!
I am bidding on these and now the world knows about it and they will go for more than I can afford. :mad::wink:
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if only my feet were a few inches longer…
Question; Are buckled brown field boots socially ok :winkgrin: for wearing in the hunt field on informal occasions? Please please please tell me yes so I can lust after a pair. :lol:

Good luck, Smokescreen, they are stunningly absotutely gawrgeous!

While we’re on this subject, I too would lOVE a pair of brown field boots withOUT paying a fortune for custom. So why is it that there are pages & pages of BLACK field boots in catalogs and NOT one of them comes in brown ? I don’t get it - I think borwn boots would look great in the show ring as well as the hunt field, so why doesn’t ANYONE make them for less than $600 !???

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While we’re on this subject, I too would lOVE a pair of brown field boots withOUT paying a fortune for custom. So why is it that there are pages & pages of BLACK field boots in catalogs and NOT one of them comes in brown ? I don’t get it - I think borwn boots would look great in the show ring as well as the hunt field, so why doesn’t ANYONE make them for less than $600 !???[/QUOTE]
Try the Alberta Boot Company or Dehner.

You can buy Dehner’s off the shelf motor patrol boots in brown cowhide for $489 from http://www.boot.com/bdstock.htm. They are basically field or dress boots with a slightly thicker sole and shaft.

Alberta Boot Company makes the Strathcona RCMP boots in black or brown.

There are other, lower priced brown lace or strap field boots but they are made in Pakistan or Mexico and of lower (though maybe serviceable) quality.

It’s very hard to tell with just the sole length on a boot, but if you measure several pairs of your own boots, you’ll get a good idea. And I suppose, if they don’t fit, you could always re-sell them. My boots all measure about 11" , so I decided these would be too big (although I considered trying them anyway with big socks)

Nlevie, I’m with you. I don’t know why one of the big manufacturers, like Ariat or Mountain Horse, don’t add a brown field boot to their line. After all, it’s not as though the style changes from year to year :slight_smile:

Smokescreen, good luck!

I found a gorgeous pair of brown field boots in the “fashion” listings. Made by International Boot Company, which may not still exist (I found an address in Sun Valley, CA but no web presence) and in pristine condition. They have the gusset with the little buckle at the top, just beautifully made.

I haven’t been able to wear them yet, can’t quiiiiite get them on over breeches but if I give up trying to smallen my calves it looks like I can sell them in the CotH classifieds, eh? Anyhoo, if you obsessively look through pages of “brown boots” you might get lucky like I did.

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I haven’t been able to wear them yet, can’t quiiiiite get them on over breeches but if I give up trying to smallen my calves it looks like I can sell them in the CotH classifieds, eh? [/QUOTE]

Spray the inside of the calf with isopropyl alcohol until soaked, put them on as far as they’ll go and wear them awhile. They’ll stretch some and you can repeat that routine a few more times until the calves fit.

And because I had a few minutes to spend with Mr. Google, the lucky purchaser can also share some history (if Google is correct). The original boot owner, Mr. Blaine W. Engle, was an insurance agent in Clarksburg WV who was born in 1916, died in 2007, and was “special member” of the American Trakehner Assoc., according to notes from their meeting on January 1, 1975 :wink:

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Question; Are buckled brown field boots socially ok :winkgrin: for wearing in the hunt field on informal occasions? Please please please tell me yes so I can lust after a pair. :lol:[/QUOTE]

No clue. Mine (in a Dragoon wine) will be for practice/hacking only. A way to have a pair of boots that fit over pretty much anything. And since I ride equitation, alas, I won’t be wearing mine for shows.

Yes, absolutely. They’ve become pretty popular in recent years, when I started hunting the brown lace (no buckle) field boots were the standard for informal hunting. And I have two pairs- one dates from early 1920s, had belonged to a friend’s grandmother, ‘made in England for Abercrombie and Fitch’ and I’ve been using them since mid-80s. Although honestly they are pretty well shot now, last time I took them for surgery the cobbler said well, okay, but next time don’t bother and indeed every time I put them on they could well disintegrate. But heck, they are 90 years old. Other pair I got from a friend, lovely custom Loebs that she got in 1971. She has long since hung up her tack. I had them re-heeled and re-soled and they ought to last me a while!

Note though, this is where you ignore Wadsworth’s bible because he advises ‘plain’ brown boots for informal (e.g. no laces).

So- now I have two pair brown field, two pair black w/brown tops, three pair plain black dress (two hand me downs from same family as field boots). Newest pair in the fleet dates from mid-1980s but heck, I don’t hunt much anymore so I think I have a lifetime supply. Though I would still lust after some Newmarket boots if I could find a saltsack jacket to go with…

It is my understanding that sadly, no, three-buckle are not technically proper wear for ladies in the hunt field. (from someone in-the-know at the The Middleburg Tack Exchange, VA)

They are acceptable for gentleman members wearing ratcatcher.

That being said, I have seen them on ladies in the field, but it has only been very, very rarely. They were, however, quite striking in dark, gleaming mahogany. Made a lasting and positive impression, (perhaps because they adorned a pair of lovely and long slim legs which I could not help but envy in comparison to mine).

HOWEVER, times, they do change, and in this new century, I believe that if one were to make inquiry thru the proper channels of their hunt, such as the MFH etc., respectfully asking if they were permissable ratcatcher for the fairer sex, I would not be surprised to hear that some would happily allow them.

And I fail to see where doing such would cause any harm to be visited upon anyone.

You and me both. :lol: I gazed longingly at the Newmarkets when Jeff was here this spring.

Hmmmm…I have a pair of custom Dehner newmarkets in size 9 with a thin tall leg. I can’t wear them anymore (won’t fit over breeches because I started running). Maybe I should get photos?

Just as an FYI, the brown three buckle field boot was standardized as the Model of 1940 cavalry boot of the US Army.

I have a pair of brown DRESS boots I use for informal days. They are off the shelf Marlboroughs made in England. Probably date back to the late 1970s but I found them new on a back shelf when we closed our tack store four years.