so none of the TB mares were similar in build to your mare?
Is your mare approved anywhere? Do you have confo pics of him and her?
so none of the TB mares were similar in build to your mare?
Is your mare approved anywhere? Do you have confo pics of him and her?
My second horse was a lovely Appendix mare who looked like a TB. Had a walk and canter that was exceptional and a daisy cutting trot. She was competitive in low level dressage and cleaned up in hunters. My vet kept saying I should breed her. However, I was not willing to take the risk of her and/or her foal dying. Plus I did not have the facilities at the time to raise a foal properly. Breeding comes with lots of heart ache and young horses make you believe they have a secret death wish.
Yes, it is. The thing is as I bought her later in her life she also came with significant baggage. This year after a winter of inconsistent groundwork she has improved significantly.
Absolutely there is potential for the foal to take her x points rather than her points :). which is why I hesitate.
I have considered those things FIRST, this is now seeking others opinions to think of things I may have missed and more deeply consider the risks.
Buying an auction horse is a much bigger gamble in my opinion. They are in an auction not a private sale for a reason. I know plenty of people who have put a horse in an auction, feel bad for those who bought.
Good point, one of things I looked at first was his disposition, I have talked with 2 people who have bought multiple colts by him because of the disposition. I was also told by someone who shared a barn with him that his babies have nice minds as does he.
I am able to see the offspring not the mares. I will check on that. Yes, my mare is reg warmblood.
I have pictures of my mare, will try to upload. The boy has some really nice pro pictures but they are cute or typical QH stance, not conformation.
I just purchased this exact breed combination, wasn’t something I set out to do. QH Sire and a TB/WB cross Dam.
I’ve previously owned 2 Imports that were huge movers & actually bred one for myself. After double hip replacements, I’m done trying to sit those bigger trots anymore. Also, I’m getting too old for any scary spooky nonsense, all three definitely had their moments. Not to say this one won’t spook, but I’ll be able to sit his trot.
Not all auctions are backyard displays of horses who shouldn’t have been bred (or being sold as breeding animals).
Registration and (breeding) approval are entirely different things. WBs get registered as foals, occasionally yearlings or older, and it’s based on their parents’ pedigree and breeding approval
Breeding approval comes once the mare can be ridden and shown under saddle at the inspection (where they often do foal inspection and registration as well as mare approvals). Not all registries require ridden presentation, but they do have to be shown in hand at least.
True, but that’s the gamble. Other areas seem to have, um more performance horse type auctions, probably better chances there.
I am not saying buy a horse at an auction. The lower level family horse that you can ride out on the trails, take lessons on, do some local showing is not some rare commodity. My point is that these types of horses are for sale everywhere - Craig’s List, auction, private sale. And usually for a lot less than it would cost to breed one and get it to an age where it has under saddle training. You can try a lot of them and find the perfect fit. I agree that I would rather buy from a situation where you can get a basic vet check and try out the horse before you buy. But there is a lot more uncertainty breeding.
If you want the experience of breeding your own and have the means to do it, don’t be dissuaded, OP.
But just realize breeding is more often than not an exercise in futility. Ok, maybe not futility, but it certainly is not easy nor cheap nor guaranteed in any way. At the same time, it’s an experience many people enjoy… or need to learn firsthand that they don’t enjoy it.
The main reason a lot of crosses, like WB x QH, are uncommon is because the breeds are so disparate. Breeding a big moving, elastic WB to a small, stocky QH doesn’t necessarily give you the big movement in a smaller, quieter package. Sometimes you get the undesirable traits from each parent. And if those parents are physically very different, the resulting offspring may be a hodgepodge of parts.
But the cross can work well, too. So going back to my original stance: it all depends on the parents. Not just their conformation and temperament, but also their production records. Some horses consistently produce better or worse than themselves, or pass on certain traits that you may or may not want.
It all just depends.
I definitely wouldn’t breed a WB mare to a small, stocky QH. That’s too much disparity in type. It’s not the size, it’s the overall type.
I WOULD be ok with a TB-type QH with ground-covering movement.
This is why we really, really need to see conformation-type pics of each horse.
With all due respect, does it matter if YOU are ok with it?
No, it truly doesn’t But also, there IS the idea that selling may be a thing down the road, no matter how much we have the idea we’ll keep them for life
So far all we know about this QH stallion is that he’s got a good mind (which granted, is hugely important for ammies and for resale) and that his few known offspring at least aren’t downhill. That’s not a lot to go on.
Public auctions and rescues in my region are definitely for end of the road type horses. You can’t get sound, sane, and broke in the same package. You might be able to get wildie weanlings or maybe a culled QH foal. That’s very different from a special purpose sale, like a ranch horse or WB or TB yearling sale that uses an auction format. Typically you don’t get super great bargains in those sales.
I will pass on the QH maybe look for something else.
If you still would like to breed your mare, maybe consider an Andalusian stud. Lusitanos are spicier.
I’m not really a crossbreed fan. Oh, I’ve loved many a crossbreed, don’t get me wrong. But I wouldn’t do it intentionally.
There’s quite a a lot of ammy friendly WBs out there.
Now days there is alot of body type variation in the AQHA breed. I myself have a hunter bred AQHA registered Appendix. She Is only 2 but is already almost 16hh and is string testing to be 16.3hh when she finishes growing. Her AQHA sire is 1/2 TB that got his full registration through performance and she is out of my OTTB mare. If I was going to cross a WB with a AQHA I would look for one of these hunter AQHA stallions that have some TB in them already as that cross would be closer to breeding a WB with a TB and that is done all the time with good results.
and no doubt the QH side of him is high % TB. So many of those HUS horses are 7/8+ TB
this guy is only 50% TB. I did lots of research before choosing him. I looked at many stallions that were 7/8 TB.