Warren Thoroughbreds -- Names All Start with Warren

[PeteyPie]

I was thinking about this old thread about Liseter Welsh ponies and it made me wonder if Warren’s Thoroughbreds are named after him along this same line of thought, which is that all the horses bred by a farm or breeder bear the name of that farm (or breeder.) Did the Warren’s raise Welsh ponies? Are there other horse breeds which follow this same tradition? Or does anyone know why he does this?

Daventry explains the tradition here:
http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?287328-Liseter-Ponies&p=6449052#post6449052

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@gusbabe;5994740

We have a lovely 5 year old Welsh/Tb mare out of Liseter’s Joy Boy. If the original Liseter ponies were anything like her, they must have been amazing. We got her out of a field having done nothing as project pony. She was super easy to train, has a great mind on her, lovely movement and an excellent jump. Not knowing about the whole “breeder” name issue, we registered her with USEF without the Liseter on her name. She can get half Welsh papers but came to us without them. I will pass the information about the Liseter name to whoever buys her. Maybe they can continue the name tradition.

Your mare could only have the Liseter prefix added if she was directly bred by Liseter ponies…which isn’t possible as the breeder has been long gone and hasn’t been around since 1988.

So, for example, if a mare owner has a TB mare and breeds to Liseter’s Joy Boy, they cannot name their foal “Liseter Buttercup”. While the resulting foal will carry the Liseter lines, only the breeder who owns that prefix can use it to name their foals. The prefix denotes who bred the foal and/or what farm bred the foal. For example, our own personal breeders prefix is “Daventry” and each foal gets called “Daventry’s” something. But if someone breeds to one of our stallions, or lets say they purchase our young colt Daventry’s Power Play and breed him to their mare - they can’t name their foal “Daventry’s” something…only I can do that! ;)[/QUOTE]

[Matador]

Not sure, but please let it not be another Karakorum deal.

[saratoga]

There are so many “warren” horses in SoCal…not a one of them seem very successful either. Ugh

[furlong47]

Lots of breeds have some farms which use a breeder’s prefix or suffix, either a word or letters/initials. Yes, quite common in Welsh ponies. Also in Arabians and Minis. Standardbreds have quite a few (Hanover, Lobell, Armbro just a few examples). In Thoroughbreds you have the Ramseys’ Kitten horses.

In some cases you can register your prefix with the breed registry and nobody else can use it, in other cases it’s more unofficial.

[LaurieB]

I believe that the Warren TBs all come from the same person, but I’m not certain of that. Ernie Semersky and Dory Newell (Conquest Stables) are not breeders but they use “Conquest” as a prefix on all the horses they buy to race.

[halo]

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There are so many “warren” horses in SoCal…not a one of them seem very successful either. Ugh[/QUOTE]

I think Warren’s Veneda was pretty successful.