Based on that, I’d want to put in a synthetic joint fluid - look at Noltrex or Arhthramid. I have no doubt that complementary therapies like laser and PEMF are great, but when you have a specific problem, you’re almost always better off fixing it first and then using those therapies to deal with lingering muscle soreness and inflammation.
Thank you. That is the kind of information I need.
If the infection is for sure gone when we do the recheck, I will talk with my vet about getting injections.
We had our recheck this morning with my vet who is consulting with the hospital vet, Dr. Canada.
No sign of infection, most of the swelling has gone down, no tenderness in the heel area, and he was pretty thrilled with how she is walking. He has her hospital records and talked to the Dr. Canda so I think he was actually surprised with how well she’s moving. He took video to send to the Dr. Canada and thinks he will be pleasantly surprised with how well she’s moving.
For now we continue with antibiotics, wedge shoe, and stall/small pen restriction until he can consult with Dr. Canada.
Thanks all for the jingles, good thoughts, and prayers for my girl.
Excellent news!
Good update ~ be proud of your work ~
Awesome!
Great update! More jingles headed her way until she’s fully recovered.
More jingles needed. Major ones. Anyone had this and the horse recovered?
She has developed supporting limb laminitis on her opposite front. There is major rotation and the sole is bulging but the bone has not penetrated.
Right now she is in the support boot while we try to stop further damage.
So odd. On Friday she was walking really nicely. No signs of lameness with the left. On Sunday was a bit ouchy. I took her for x-rays this morning.
I’m so sorry she’s taken a bad turn! My one personal laminitis story ended badly, though I did know a mare who was able to be saved through miracles of vet work. Hoping for a positive outcome for your mare! Jingling for you both!
Right now the vets don’t seem super helpful. One is taking a wait and see approach while we wait to see if we can stop the damage while keeping the support boot on. She is also getting ace to help increase circulation.
The other suggested clogs. I texted a farrier they suggest and he said there are better ways than clogs. Once he saw the x-ray, he just replied "That is bad.’
The other farrier I contacted said in his experience, this isn’t fixable.
I’m not ready to give up if there is something I can do to help her.
Oh, no. I am so very sorry. The prognosis is not great and it will likely be expensive with possibly the same outcome regardless.
Where are you located? If this were me I would find the absolute best integrative hoofcare professional I can find. Someone trained by the likes of Daisy Bicking at Daisy Haven Farm. I would be happy to put out some feelers in the community I know if you’re comfortable giving a general location.
I’m so sorry! Is there a teaching hospital near you? Is she in ice boots?
More Jingles!
I’m south of Houston, TX.
I do realize the outcome is not looking good. But she has fought so hard and still seems willing to fight so I’m not ready to give up if she’s not.
I’m so sorry. Do you know the degree of rotation?
When my mare foundered (both fronts) she was pretty bad. She had 7 degrees of rotation in one hoof, 13 degrees in the other. She corrected completely on the first; the second never corrected completely, but she was sound on it.
We iced her hooves every 2 hours for several days to keep the swelling down, and my farrier put her in backwards shoes to keep the pressure off the toe and support the rest of the hoof (she may have been in bar shoes, I can’t quite recall).
IME, founder is NOT a “wait and see” event; that vet’s attitude worries me a little. You need to hit it hard in the first day or two with everything you can. Massive jingles, but your farrier and your vet need to be on top of this now.
Can you get her to TAMU?
We use Brazos Valley out of Salado and have been very happy with them - not sure if they’re your vet but I believe they have a location closer to you.
Please reach out to Kristen Wertz with Wolverine Hoof Care. She is on FB as Kristen M Wertz. If you don’t do FB I can reach out to her directly to get her phone number.
I’m not sure if she goes near Houston but she travels pretty widely and may know someone in your area if she does not.
Good luck. I’m so sorry, and I’m rooting for you and your girl.
Sending as many Jingles as I can for mare. I did have a pony in clogs for a few months but he was more comfortable in the EasyBoot Clouds with the wedge pads that came with them. He was also on something to help with circulation, I think it was pentoxyfylin. I mauled the spelling on that, I’m sure.
He didn’t give degree of rotation and I didn’t think to ask. I was honestly trying to keep myself together.
I didn’t mean to suggest nothing was being done. She is in special boots and getting ace to help circulation. I think this is sinking founder? Where the sole is bulging? So her sole is supported to try to keep it from getting worse plus ace to increase circulation. Then wait a week or two to see if she is worse or better then go from there. He did say backwards shoes if we can get her passed this.
I’ve talked to two farriers and neither seems hopeful. One says do what the vet says and we’ll go from there.
There is a lot more that you can do for the laminitis. This is based on my experience w an equine metabolic syndrome induced case:
Bute to help the inflammation and pain
Acetaminophen to help the pain
Pentoxyfiline which is a vasodilatador (not sure if better than ace but I assume so since that’s its main purpose)
Trazadone so she will get sleepy and lay down
Soft ride boots as you are doing it sounds.
Ice her leg every few hours.
I’m not sure if limiting her sugar in this case would help but that is prob something to ask the vet.
I really hope she makes it through this. Best of luck.