I am looking to buy a very nice Connemara mare, who is fully registered Connemara and also approved into the RPSI book 2 for the pony book. My question, would she qualify to get into any of the mare books with the Weser Ems and/or ISR/Old?? I just wanted to see if anyone knew before I contacted either registry. Thanks so much in advance.
Weser-Ems has approved Connemara stallions for breeding, so I can’t imagine that they wouldn’t approve a Connemara mare. You might want to double-check with the FL office.
Both the Weser Ems and ISR/OLD Sport Pony Division accept registered purebred Connemara Pony mares for inspection and performance testing ask me how I know :). I believe both will also accept ACPS partbred registry—but you will have to check on that as I believe both have a pedigree requirement.
As the other have said, Connemara is an accepted breed to use in GRP breeding.
Reviving this old thread: are there blood or height limitations?
Ie can you register a connemara/tb as weser-EMS? Provided both parents are approved of course.
What if you have a 16 hand connemara stallion? Can he be approved or do they have to be smaller?
I apologize for the typos, I’m on my phone.
You certainly could register a Conn-Tb Weser Ems if both sire and dam were inspected and improved…but I am a little unsure why you would want to. If you don’t want to breed German Riding Ponies why go to the expense and bother of using a GRP organization?
As far as a 16hh “pony” stallion. That is a tough one. I would contact the registry dirrectly with that question. I know you can with a mare…but not sure on a stallion.
The WE Connemara Pony book shows a height of 128cm - 148cm. That is just over 50" (12.2h) to just over 58" (14.2h).
I do not know if that is a hard and fast rule or a guideline - it could be they may feel a 16h stallion might put too much height into the breeding base.
Also not sure about a Connemara/TB, but it seems they would register it as long as both parents are approved.
Best person to ask is the Weser-Ems Director Mareile Oellrich. You can shoot her an email at oellrich.mareile #AT% oldenburger-pferde.com. Her English is very good. (Of course, use the standard @ symbol in the email address instead of #AT% - I am trying to thwart spam robots from picking up on the email address.)
Will also mention that the Weser Ems organization manages many different books for pony and small horse breeds - not just GRPs. I think there are actually something like 20 different “breeds” covered under the WE umbrella, including books for Connemaras, German Riding Ponies, and Small German Riding Horses. I do not know, though, if they will cover all those breeds here in NA.
They only do GRPs in the US (including the small horses).
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You certainly could register a Conn-Tb Weser Ems if both sire and dam were inspected and improved…but I am a little unsure why you would want to. If you don’t want to breed German Riding Ponies why go to the expense and bother of using a GRP organization?
As far as a 16hh “pony” stallion. That is a tough one. I would contact the registry dirrectly with that question. I know you can with a mare…but not sure on a stallion.[/QUOTE]
I was just wondering how they are treated. I think I recall reading that they placed equines of “pony lineage” in the Weser-Ems pony book, regardless of their mature height, which got me thinking about this particular cross we see relatively often in eventing and other disciplines.
Same with ISR Sport Pony Book. As long as one of the parents is registered as a pony, the foal goes in the Sport Pony Book regardless of final height. I have a 15.3 gelding by Forrest Flame (14.2) out of a 15.1H mare. He’s in the pony book, but he ain’t no pony.
For breeding Purposes, what German riding pony registry (Weser Ems, ISR/old, RPSI) is the best?
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For breeding Purposes, what German riding pony registry (Weser Ems, ISR/old, RPSI) is the best?[/QUOTE]
I picked ISR because the first pony stallion I bred to was approved with them. There are also inspections and horse shows offering breed classes within driving distance. I havn’t had a need to look into other registries at this point.
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They will inspect and approve Connemara Stallions and Mares.
I would be suspicious that any Pony Studbook would approve a 16HH stallion (they would however likely register a gelding)–I would instead look into Irish Sport Horse–something along those lines. The CPBS Society (IRE) would NOT approve a 16HH Purebred Connemara stallion–but again, possibly one of the Irish Sport Registries would.
That is an answer that will vary person to person. I think alot depends on what inspections are near you, what stallions you want to use, etc.
If it matters to you that it is a German registry-Weser-Ems and RPSI are German and ISR is a US based registry. I think they all offer a bit different customer service (or lack there of…lol).
side question: will i be able to register my 2013 foal out of my GOV mare by a GRP pony stallion? Does it depend on the size of the foal?
will i need to get my mare inspected first?
also, the stallion is young - and has not yet been thru stallion testing (will be in 2013 i think) … does that bear on what might happen?
If your mare is foal registered only you will need to have her inspected/approved along with her foal. I believe he was provisionally licensed.
I personally wouldn’t purchase a mare who was only in the Studbook II. If they aren’t eligible to be in the Main Studbook I, it’s either because their inspection scores were too low or there was insufficient pedigree available. The mare is a registered Connemara, so we would have to assume the mare was presented at an RPSI inspection but did not receive the total minimum score of 6.0 with no individual score less than 5.0
I personally found the RPSI judging a bit more lenient than ISR/Oldenburg or Weser-Ems, so have to assume that if you presented an RPSI Studbook II mare to those registries that she likely would not pass.
As an FYI, Weser-Ems DOES indeed inspect more than just German Riding Ponies and small horses. There is at least one Section B Welsh stallion approved with them here in the U.S. 
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If your mare is foal registered only you will need to have her inspected/approved along with her foal. I believe he was provisionally licensed.[/QUOTE]
ok, thanks! that is what i thought 
No Daventry, they do not. There are many breeds that are accepted for GRP breeding including Welsh. So they inspect Welsh to be used as breeding stock for the GRP book. They do not inspect Welsh for the Welsh books like they do in Germany. It is completely different.
