[QUOTE=Draftmare;7959023]
…leather (which doesn’t really seem to be a thing in western girths).[/QUOTE]
They aren’t common, but they do exist. A horse that was at the trainer the same time my young mule was had one on her saddle. The owner found it online, but I don’t recall where.
[QUOTE=KIloBright;7959414]
That is hot, so yes, you are riding in hotter temps than I do, thus I have never put that cinch under test at those temps!
When we climb, even if it is fairly hot on the flats, by the time we get up high, even in summer, it gets fairly cool. A good way to escape the bugs!
I agree that the straight neoprene cinches are not comfortable for most horses. I bought two some years ago, when they first came out, and then threw them away. Hubby’s horse objected to them by bucking!
I still like mohair cinches, but just found that the Airflow works in the temps I ride in, and is easy to clean after every ride
Just out of curiosity, as 104F is equal to 40 C, do you not worry about heat exhaustion, esp climbing?
Sometimes it gets up to 30C in the mountains here, at the lower altitudes, and that is plenty hot! I have ridden a 30 mile mountain loop one July, when temps got that high, but we started out early in the morning, thus were up higher by the time temps hit 30 C. I guess, with your horses being used to it, and low humidity, they are still able to cool body core temp enough, sweating?[/QUOTE]
It was way too hot that day. That was the first time my fit mare ever bottomed out. A few weeks later we did another steep hot ride. We climbed about 2000 ft in a short time and it was almost 100. The difference was we had a good breeze and the horses could cool off. We got pretty tired on that ride too, had to stop and rest quite a bit. Between those two rides I decided not to use that Air girth and the impact Gel. I went back to a nice plain wool pad and mohair girth.
Thanks, craz, for the reply
You certainly would know best what to use in temps like that!
My husband won’t even go and trail ride with me if it is anywhere near 80F, so in the summer I have to find other trail riding buddies.
He loves to ride in the fall, in part of course,because he is a trophy hunter, and the bugs are gone, plus he can stand cold way more than I can
I have gone on late fall mountain hunts with him, when a blizzard moved in suddenly,with temps going to minus 20 F. I admit that I look for that tent with the camp stove then!
On our last holiday to Las Vegas, last March, we did book an evening BBQ desert ride, as I always wanted to ride in desert-that and along an ocean shore.
The ride was very dudish, but still enjoyable, as the people were very nice and the BBQ and desert sunset were also relaxing, with good company and singing
I was give a Haffie to ride, that was very broad, flat back and no whithers. he was out fitted with britching
[QUOTE=NoSuchPerson;7959576]
They aren’t common, but they do exist. A horse that was at the trainer the same time my young mule was had one on her saddle. The owner found it online, but I don’t recall where.[/QUOTE]
I found one! For $30! I just have to get myself and my credit card in the same place at the same time to order. 
Totally found it by accident on an online cosignment store.
A Halflinger seems like a strange breed to use on desert trail rides. I find that my draft cross, and my friend’s draft cross gelding and halflinger gelding all do not tolerate trail rides in warmer weather nearily as well as her TWH gelding or the MFT I would occasionally borrow from her owner to ride.
[QUOTE=Draft
I found this girth which is what I originally posted this thread in hopes to find: http://www.ebay.com/itm/32-Western-Non-Slip-Neoprene-Waffle-ROPING-Girth-w-Stainless-Hardware-NEW-TACK-/171643963930?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27f6c70a1a
Now if only it didn’t have the “shock absorbing” bit, I had a CAIR girth with shock absorbing pockets in it and I could never get that girth tight. Had multiple mounting episodes where the whole saddle went sideways. 
I read your post earlier this week in anticipation that my pork chop mare would need a special cinch too for western riding. She needs the TFS girth for English, and still the saddle will slip forward at times. (narrow and forward girth grove, big shoulders, and wide/flat back…wears an XXW English saddle).
With the new to me Abetta Arabian trail saddle and a string girth however, the saddle was very secure in its place with no forward slippage. Not sure if it is that the saddle fits better than my English one, or if the string girth is magic.
While English leather girths work well on English saddles, do you not believe that the many professionals riding with western saddles , have not also discovered which girths work best, not on an English saddle, but a western saddles?
Pros use what works well. If an English leather girth was the way to go with a western saddle, believe me, there would be a huge market of that type of girth, and western professional trainers would be using them
[QUOTE=KIloBright;7961910]
While English leather girths work well on English saddles, do you not believe that the many professionals riding with western saddles , have not also discovered which girths work best, not on an English saddle, but a western saddles?
Pros use what works well. If an English leather girth was the way to go with a western saddle, believe me, there would be a huge market of that type of girth, and western professional trainers would be using them[/QUOTE]
Be that as it may, my horse isn’t built like what the top trainers and riders are riding, she is built much more like a warmblood. She has big laid back shoulders and her girth likes to sit much further forward than where he saddle should be in order to allow her freedom of her shoulders. Hence our problem.
[QUOTE=CHT;7961728]I read your post earlier this week in anticipation that my pork chop mare would need a special cinch too for western riding. She needs the TFS girth for English, and still the saddle will slip forward at times. (narrow and forward girth grove, big shoulders, and wide/flat back…wears an XXW English saddle).
With the new to me Abetta Arabian trail saddle and a string girth however, the saddle was very secure in its place with no forward slippage. Not sure if it is that the saddle fits better than my English one, or if the string girth is magic.[/QUOTE]
Our horses sound a lot a like. Glad you found something that works! I have found that finding a western saddle that fits her and is affordable is proving much easier than the search I went through last year to find a dressage saddle that fit her and was affordable. I am still not 100% happy with it either.
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