Wet stall

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Put peeworthy bedding somewhere else, so he can empty out there ?[/QUOTE]

I’m open to that. I’m not sure how to change his routine, which is why on good days I was trying to get him to find an alternative spot (even using one of the other stalls!) by keeping his stall door closed. The two mares pee in one location, and I’ve not observed him using that location nor have I seen evidence of him using their stalls, which have the same pelleted bedding.

How can I accomplish this?

Some geldings just hate splashing their legs, so pelleted bedding outside may do it ?

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There is a product called “dry stall” that will help with orders AND absorption.

http://www.drystall.com/dry_stall.html

They sell it at most feed stores out here in CA - not sure about the rest of the country.[/QUOTE]

Wow, this looks great! Thanks Appsolute, I’ll certainly look into it.

$17 a bag ! $102.00 per inch deep for a 12 x 12 stall.

http://www.southernstates.com/catalog/p-3574-kat-co-dry-stall-40.aspx

As for dry stall - I have NEVER seen it used as the primary bedding (even though that is what the manufacturer would like you to do $$ :wink: )

Usually a small amount is added to the “wet spots” or the base of the bedding. A bag lasts a couple of weeks with this method.

The stuff is so drying and absorbent (think kitty litter) I would be concerned that bedding solely with it would Really dry out their feet.

I also think its a bit cheaper in my feed stores than the southern states cost.

I’ve used cheap kitty litter instead of the Dry Stall stuff. Much cheaper.

So wait- this stall is just used to let him eat in peace? It’s not his bedroom?

I’d think about putting in a floor drain in the center of rubber mats and not bothering with the bedding at all.

It’s merely his “dining room” for 1 hour 2x per day and also his shelter in inclement weather. He’s bottom of the pecking order, so while he wears a Wug to conserve calorie loss, I want it to be an option for him to go in during bad weather…with the mares being mares and all :slight_smile: He can go into any stall that’s mare-free for bad weather, but he’d be too scared to enter a stall a mare is already in.

[QUOTE=Equibrit;7900344]
Some geldings just hate splashing their legs, so pelleted bedding outside may do it ?[/QUOTE]

This is an excellent idea. Give him a nice, soft pee spot OUTSIDE. Maybe he’ll start just going there instead.

Otherwise, I think you need something VERY absorbent or a drain of some sort. I’ve read that the corn pellets are more absorbent than the pine pellets…perhaps they might be useful?

I use my barn as an extension of my run-in shed and NOT bedding it with anything, it has rubber mats on our very clay soil, has saved me a TON of work. Everyone goes out to pee and my barn doesn’t smell. Unless he’s being kept in the stall and needs the bedding to lay in, try going without it :slight_smile:

I like this “out-of the box” thinking, literally :smiley:

I do think his peeing routine is connected to his going-inside-to-eat routine. I’ll be better able to tell now that the stall is currently sans-bedding.

If so, I may need to start putting the mares IN during his feeding times and leaving him OUT.

I’d be happy to provide him a good, soft location to pee outside! The paddock is about 200’ x 150’, and I’m not sure where to start on where he’d LIKE to go. I might start putting some pellets near the soft spot where the girls pee.

Double post

Oh… and I started a thread recently, asking if anyone else had a silly horse like mine who pees EVERY time she hears her grain being prepared. And it turns out, a good number of horses do this!

It was driving me batty at first, as I would clean her stall, bring her in, get her grain - and yep! She would flood the perfectly clean stall EVERY time :mad:

So now! Now I either tie her up near the barn while I get her grain (no more pee’ing in clean stall), put her in a different area while I get her grain (a sand turn out pen) - and she will pee there - or I clean her stall AFTER I get her grain (I will push the clean bedding to the side - and let her pee on the already funk stuff - then remove it).

From time to time I might even place a muck bucket behind her and catch in that :uhoh:

My current gelding’s favorite place to pee outside is the low spot directly in front of the gate that doesn’t drain. Enter the “lake of stinky pee” sitting on gravel. So gross.

I’ve actually had good luck teaching him to pee on a stall mat with pellets on it by doing the following:

Week 1. Put the mat directly in/on the lake with 1/2 bag unexanded pellets on top. I top-dressed it with his own pee (from the lake). He started peeing next to it and then on it. I shovel off the nasty pellets every couple of days (it rains a lot here) but it’s better than the lake.

Week 2-4: I moved the mat about 1’ every other day until it was out of the low spot. I sprayed the old pee spot with some microbe stuff that I has that takes the pee away.

Eventually I’d relocated his pee spot about 15’ to a spot away from the gate with enough slope that the extra pee drains away. I go through 1-1.5 bags of pellets a week on his pee mat, and it’s certainly a somewhat nasty thing to deal with. But every time I stop bedding the mat he goes back to the lake bed to pee. So I’ve stopped complaining about it.

I imagine you might be able to do something similar by closing his stall door and putting a mat with pellets just outside it (prime it with pee soaked bedding when you clean the stall) and then moving it over time.

Extremely short-term (36-hour) review :slight_smile:

I have been amazed at what getting rid of the vast amounts of bedding has done. I don’t know if this is really what was happening, but I think I had clogged up the floor’s ability to drain. When I was stripping the stall, I don’t think I was going down far enough. I went down so far on Monday I was fearful of ruining the flooring. I have not added additional sand but have sprinkled some pellets over the sand in the wet spot. It’s damp where he pees but it is not mucky!!!

We’ll have to see what happens long-term. I do think I will plan to work on training him to urinate in another area ultimately. The girls’ pee spot is only about 12’ from his stall door. I also think I’ll check out some of the above-mentioned materials.

Thanks for the helpful replies, and I’ll update again in case it helps anyone in the future :slight_smile: