what are the traditions behind the hunt appointments?

[bigbaytb]

Ok, I know I have read it somewhere and would like to get my hands on the article.

I have been hunting for a couple years (and hope to eventually get my colors!) and do have the correct attire, however, explaining to non-hunters why we wear the traditional attire escapes me.

I remember simple things; like wearing a stock tie incase you need a bandage, or that a belt is used for a broken rein/stirrup leather, the sandwich case (but cannot remember why the sandwich needs it’s crust removed), and the flask (ahem, we all know what that’s for! But I cannot rember all of it (maybe due to over use of the previously mentioned:lol:)

I get alot of “why the vest” comments. Please enlighten or point me to the complete article!

Thank you in advance and happy hunting!

[Beverley]

Maybe I can come up with references while digesting turkey over the weekend…meanwhile, simply put, ‘traditions’ evolved from necessity, from back when hunting was pretty much an all day affair, hence need for food and drink. Why remove crust? Beats me, I will theorize that a) makes it a little bit tidier to eat at a gallop, b) many won’t eat the crust despite repeated childhood nagging from Mom- so you wouldn’t want to have to deal with leftovers at a gallop, either littering or putting it back into sandwich case. To be sure, one doesn’t put mayo on the sandwich, using butter instead, so it won’t make you sick when you eat it hours later.

Why the vest? Well, to keep warm. On a hot day, I don’t wear one!

[Wellspotted]

All I can remember is that gentlemen carry one sort of sandwich and ladies another; gentlemen carry a different beverage than ladies do …

Can’t find a thing online (surprise!)–hope someone else will pitch in.

[bigbaytb]

Beverly…that would be a funny tradition not to eat the crusts to spite one’s mom!! LOL.

I was much to my surprise when I read hunters speaking of wearing different colored vests! 'round here, I’ve only seen either canary or hunt colors. I thought that was all that was allowed!

I hope we can find something about the traditions. I love history and I always want to know the “whys” to what we do.

Isn’t it genleman carry Port while ladies carry sherry?..

[gothedistance]

Vests are a holdover from the prior centuries when a man always wore one as a normal article of daily clothing. Nothing more. Same with the (stock) neck tie - it is almost identical to those ties worn of the 1830’s/50’s.

The color of canary is fairly recent (as in this century) but I have no idea how it came to be the preferred “color” for the formal hunt attire. One has lots of choices during rat-catcher season, and I know of several who wear other than canary during formal season.

[Beverley]

http://www.google.com/search?q=History+of+foxhunting+attire&hl=en&client=firefox-a&channel=s&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=1C&sa=G&tbs=tl:1&tbo=u&ei=sPsTS8vINYaOtAP95LTmAQ&oi=timeline_result&ct=title&resnum=11&ved=0CCsQ5wIwCg

Well, I still don’t have good stuff looked up, but if this link works, it gives a really cool interactive timeline on hunting- not necessarily limited to attire but you can click on the decade of choice all the way back to 1740 for some info.

[Romany]

[QUOTE=bigbaytb;4518220]
Ok, I know I have read it somewhere and would like to get my hands on the article.

I have been hunting for a couple years (and hope to eventually get my colors!) and do have the correct attire, however, explaining to non-hunters why we wear the traditional attire escapes me.

I remember simple things; like wearing a stock tie incase you need a bandage, or that a belt is used for a broken rein/stirrup leather, the sandwich case (but cannot remember why the sandwich needs it’s crust removed), and the flask (ahem, we all know what that’s for! But I cannot rember all of it (maybe due to over use of the previously mentioned:lol:)

I get alot of “why the vest” comments. Please enlighten or point me to the complete article!

Thank you in advance and happy hunting![/QUOTE]

Sandwiches are for wimps. Which is why one bakes extra Christmas cake in a suitably-dimensioned loaf pan; suitably dimensioned to produce juicy rich slices of cake which will fit neatly in one’s sandwich case. Firstly having liberally soused the Christmas cake with DH’s best brandy, of course.

[bigbaytb]

[QUOTE=Romany;4529055]
Sandwiches are for wimps. Which is why one bakes extra Christmas cake in a suitably-dimensioned loaf pan; suitably dimensioned to produce juicy rich slices of cake which will fit neatly in one’s sandwich case. Firstly having liberally soused the Christmas cake with DH’s best brandy, of course.[/QUOTE]

oooohhhhhhh guess that sounds like a good enough reason to want to bake…

[Beverley]

Well, I’ve been perusing my various books, lots of good stuff (though I keep getting sidetracked on the hounds…). But rather than quote I’ll just invite you to ‘read more about it’:

http://openlibrary.org/search?q=foxhunting

Above is a list of books- I particularly like Longrigg’s book, Mackay Smith, well, many others too.

Below are the foxhunting books you can read online:

http://openlibrary.org/search?q=foxhunting&ftokens=%2Cmhsncqbxgkup&remove=&offset=0

Kind of fun to read, say, ‘Unwritten rules of foxhunting’ from 1909 and see what is the same today versus what has changed. Or ‘Foxhunting Past and Present’ from 1908. I could go on, but I’d rather go back to browsing…

[skip916]

The Canary colored vest has something to do with that being a traditional calvalry color… i think? Searching the books at home and will get back to you.

[hey101]

I found a GREAT deal on a Burberry wool vest in the gorgeous yellow/ red Burberry plaid (Ok, I’ll share… $15!). The hunt I’ve just joined specifies “canary, tattersall, or other appropriate color”… so I’m going to go under the “tattersall” category.

only problem is that it has a zipper instead of buttons, but my mom is super-handy with a needle so I’m going to have her convert it for me.