A friend breeds QHs for barrel racing and roping, and she just had this foal (pic link below). Sire is a palomino, dam looks darkish bay, but maybe like smokey/sooty brownish. Dam’s parents are black with white hairs on flank and barrel and a “bay”. Sire’s sire is a “sorrel” that doesn’t really look sorrel and the sire’s dam is said to be sorrel too.
We’re thinking baby is maybe smokey/sooty buckskin or grulla?