What color will be foal's adult color?

A friend breeds QHs for barrel racing and roping, and she just had this foal (pic link below). Sire is a palomino, dam looks darkish bay, but maybe like smokey/sooty brownish. Dam’s parents are black with white hairs on flank and barrel and a “bay”. Sire’s sire is a “sorrel” that doesn’t really look sorrel and the sire’s dam is said to be sorrel too.

We’re thinking baby is maybe smokey/sooty buckskin or grulla?

Mom and baby
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sire:
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sire’s sire:
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I knew a Lusitano colt that was this colour as a foal, and after a few moults, turned out a nice clear buckskin as an adult, with maybe a few smudges on his shoulders? That would make sense with the palomino/bay cross here. Smokey is going to be in addition to the base coat, and could give him some smudges on the basic buckskin colour.

The foal is buckskin.

As a side note, the sire is palomino. Which means at least one of his parents must also carry the cream gene (single dilute gene), so there is no way that his parents are both chestnut. :wink: Based on the photo you provided of the sire’s sire, he is also palomino.

Sooty buckskin, lucky for your friend!

Grullo is dun. Parents are dilute and non dilute. Dun has to be present to be passed down to foal

[QUOTE=Daventry;8655789]
The foal is buckskin.

As a side note, the sire is palomino. Which means at least one of his parents must also carry the cream gene (single dilute gene), so there is no way that his parents are both chestnut. :wink: Based on the photo you provided of the sire’s sire, he is also palomino.[/QUOTE]

This is what I told my friend! I said, “someone needs to test that sire because that horse is not sorrel”. lol

Thanks for the help everyone. Friend was aiming for a buckskin filly, but a colt is close enough.

Yes, that grandsire is a gorgeous sooty palomino in this photo! Funny they’d want to register him as garden-variety sorrel. Maybe his colour was ambiguous as a foal? But he’s clearly a palomino, if throwing palomino foals.

I think your friend is just mistaken. Sun Frost was a well-known sire and was always advertised as a palomino. :wink: He died quite a few years ago.

[QUOTE=Daventry;8657325]
I think your friend is just mistaken. Sun Frost was a well-known sire and was always advertised as a palomino. :wink: He died quite a few years ago.[/QUOTE]

Yes, Sunfrost has always been known as palomino. Baby looks like a lovely sooty buckskin to me also.

www.potterranch.com/pedigrees/sunfrost.html

Dam is likely brown, but could be one of those darker bays.

The foal is very likely smoky brown - cream on a brown base as opposed to on a bay base (buckskin.).

[QUOTE=Daventry;8657325]
I think your friend is just mistaken. Sun Frost was a well-known sire and was always advertised as a palomino. :wink: He died quite a few years ago.[/QUOTE]

Ah, thank you. Yes, i guess one of us had it wrong. Ty for the correction.

[QUOTE=JB;8659373]
Dam is likely brown, but could be one of those darker bays.

The foal is very likely smoky brown - cream on a brown base as opposed to on a bay base (buckskin.).[/QUOTE]

I’m glad you said this because I had mentioned to my friend that I thought the dam was brown.