What Do You Want from Your Boarding Barn?

This is an age-old question, and I tried searching the archives for something similar but didn’t find anything:

What do you look for in a boarding barn?

Background: I’m a lifelong horse owner and Equine Massage Therapist with over 14 years of experience working in various stables in positions from lowly stablehand to barn manager, groom, exercise rider, etc. I live in Northwest Vermont, where there is a ready supply of boarding barns but honest, true good ones are few and far between. I am in the process of compiling a lot of research from others and assembling a business plan to set up my own facility. I have pretty high standards and a good working idea of what I want, but I want to gather opinions, needs, wants and feedback from others as to what is truly important, what’s a luxury, as well as how you feel about pricing vs. what you get from your boarding experience.

I’d love for people to respond to any (or all!) of the following:

What do you absolutely have to have in a boarding situation, regardless of the price of board?

What are worthwhile “extras” (for example, a grooming/wash stall, heated tack room, blanket changes/dewormers/vet or farrier holding included in board, massage/alternative therapies, etc)?

How do you feel about barn hours, if reasonably set?

Is the physical appearance of the barn important to you? I’m not talking about safety or cleanliness, but just the “niceness” factor of the barn. (And be honest! I sure think it is, but everyone’s opinion differs.)

What would you want/expect out of barn that charges 400 for full care board? 500? 600? 700+?

What do you pay for board currently, and what services are provided to you?

On the flip side of the above question, what services would you LIKE that aren’t provided?

How much control over your horse’s diet, turnout, etc are you willing to hand over to the BO (reasonably speaking, here)? I ask because I have run into situations where a horse is a danger to himself or others in pasture situation, horse is constantly losing weight and owner doesn’t want to increase feed, horse got injured and owner was doing wound care but very poorly and inconsistently and horse suffered for it…situations where, in general, it would be very difficult for me as a barn owner and manager to not step in and say “we need to handle this differently, or you need to leave” sort of thing…
How do you feel about other sorts of animals being housed on the property separate from the equines? Chickens, goats, beef cattle, etc…

Anything else anyone can think of would be so much appreciated! I have always felt that the horse’s happiness and health is the single, most important thing in a boarding situation, but sadly that has rarely been what I’ve found as a boarder…anyway, have at it!

Okay. warning: long!

Non-negotiables:

  • SAFE. safe stalls, safe (and plenty of) turn out (fences, smart grouping, footing)
  • Care: good quality hay/grain fed in sufficient amounts. Adding pre-packaged supplements. An actual person looking at my horse a couple of times a day, noticing if there’s a cut, lameness, missing shoe, etc. Clean stalls, clean water buckets
  • Facilities: I show hunters. I need a large-enough indoor that I can school all winter. An all weather outdoor would be nice, but at least a large outdoor grass area to ride in during summer weather. I need at least basic jumps.
  • BO/BM Integrity. I want honest people with good communication skills managing my horses’ care. Do NOT lie to me, even on little things. If I catch it, trust is gone. And that’s a deal breaker!

Nice to haves:

  • Trailer parking
  • Wash stall (hot water a bonus)
  • hold for vet/farrier
  • heated tack room
  • plenty of room for personal tack
  • bathroom
  • trail access
  • organized lay out
  • grass turnout/pasture
  • company: it’s always nice to have a few other boarders with similar interests and ability level to ride and school with.
  • Facility availability: having a decent indoor doesn’t help if it’s full of up/down lessons for all my available riding time. Similarly, if I have to put jumps away every time I’m done riding, that’s a significant deterrant.
    -Groups of others who show. It’s nice to go to shows with someone and hang out with. In a full show/training program this is automatic. But a lot of the smaller bit-of-everything programs don’t have this. It’s not nearly as much fun to spend all weekend at a show by myself. Or with just grumpy DH. :slight_smile:

An onsite trainer is great. But only if lessons/schooling are not mandatory. An open trainer policy is nice. Open vet/farrier policy is also important. Not all farriers can shoe all horses…
I’m fine with a school program so long as the ring is still open to boarders and the kids can ride well enough to stay out of the way. Also, the lesson horse tack room needs to NOT BE the same as the boarders’ tack room!

Okay, to answer some of your questions:

  • Barn hours: okay, as long as they’re long enough to incorporate non-traditional working hours. And they have to be flexible (coming home late from a show/clinic)
  • physical appearance: a “pretty” barn is nice, but I expect them to be pricier. I’m fine with rough-and-ready, or nice-but-old, so long as care/safety is there.
  • What I pay currently: I pay about 500/month per horse. That’s for clean stall, hay/grain (no additional charge for my giant WB who eats a ton), daily turnout in large fields in large groups, use of facilities which include decent sized indoor, jumps, grass jump field, cold-water-only outdoor wash racks, and holding for vet/farrier (as long as it’s the regular barn farrier/vet. If I want to use someone else, I schedule and hold). Things I would like better about my current situation: An all weather outdoor: The indoor is too small for course work, and the grass area is unusable frequently, even during spring/summer/fall due to rain. Also, day-to-day barn staff aren’t horse smart. They muck and feed just fine, but don’t necessarily see a puffy leg or a missing shoe. The owners/BM are plenty experienced, but may not see my horse every day.
  • Giving up control: fine so long as I’m informed and have an opportunity to discuss. If my horse is too thin, I’m not okay with the barn saying “he’s fine”. Similarly, if BM thinks my horse needs a new supplement/medication, I want to be asked first. But I’m fine with trusting the BM to take care of my horse, and informing me if something changes (we put Sparky out with a different paddock buddy today because we noticed he was being a little too mean to his old friend). Again, that’s where trust in the BO/BM is paramount.
  • Other animals: I hate chickens at a barn! Goats aren’t my favorites but if securely contained seperate from the horses, I’m okay with it. Same with cows. Basically, I don’t want to have to negotiate loose chickens when tacking up my horse, or worry about letting the goat out when I bring my horse in from the field. I’m fine with barn cats, but prefer they’re not allowed in the tack room. Also, POLITE barn dogs are fine. But please don’t let them chase the horses, bark at every customer, or run around in the rings while I’m trying to ride.

I would pay more for a more up-scale facility with a good trainer, but price is a huge deal for me. I have 2 to 3 horses at any given time, and simply don’t make enough to keep them all at a 700+/month program.

as active duty military, I’ve boarded a lot of places. Some nice. Some not. A lot of what made the places nice or not was the people, more than the facilities. Dealing with novice yahoos, or drama queens, or trainer politics gets tiresome fast. I’d rather board someplace lower-key with honestly friendly people than a fancy-smancy place that’s badly run and filled with snobs or worse, a start-up operation run by inexperienced horse owners who let all the equally inexperienced boarders go running amok without supervision (letting the unattended 8yo kids play with the foal, or gallop around bareback and helmetless on a terrified retiree, kind-of-things.)

Finding a program that has everything is impossible. And nothing is going to please everyone. But figure out who your prefferred demographic is (adult ammies with lower level dressage horses, or families with ponies, or competitive show riders, or trail riders, etc) and build a program that will best match their needs. Don’t be afraid to say “no” to a potential boarder that isn’t that demographic, or to ask someone to leave if they’re not a good fit. Again, the best/worst boarding experiences are based on 2 components in my experience: 1) basic/safe horse care/management’
2) good people with similar priorities (to include BM, BO, and other boarders, and lesson students if there’s a school program). A fun “family atmosphere” barn will make up for a lot of facility short comings, whereas the perfect facility isn’t tenable if you can’t stand the people you have to deal with.

Nothing screams “yahoo” louder to me then when people ride at the same time as a lessons is going on. If there is a barn with a lesson program and a boarding program then the ring needs to be closed to boarder during lesson times. Hopefully there is two rings but if not lesson kids get the priority.

Things that I think are essential:

  1. ample turnout. An appropriate ratio of horses to land so that horses can be outside for at least 8 hrs. (All day or all night)

  2. free choice hay. Horses should have access to as much hay as they need. I’ve seen far too many barns get cheap and not feed the horses enough.

  3. good footing. Deep and uneven footing leads to problems. Good footing is important to long term soundness.

  4. no weird rules. I realize this is subjective but some barns I’ve looked at have some nitpicky rules. One barn would always turn all horses out all the time even if injured. Horses had to be all in or all out. If one had to be on stall rest, too bad. That was a real turnoff so I never considered it further.

snow fox, interesting. I’ve never been lucky enough to board at a facility with 2 indoors, and most lesson programs go ‘after school’ hours, which tend to be very similar to “after work” hours. If I work till 6pm, I want to head right over to ride before rushing home for dinner and family time. I can’t wait around till 7:30 or 8pm when the lessons wrap up. As long as the lessons are small (1-2 students) a boarder or two should be able to ride too, so long as everyone understands the lesson kids have right-of-way. That’s been the ROE for most of the barns I’ve ridden in (7 states, 3 countries). If, as a potetial boarder, I was told “sorry, you can’t ride from 3-8pm every weekday because we’ve closed the ring for our lessons”, I would immediately turn around, get back in my car, and go look at boarding programs elsewhere.
And I do take lessons myself (either at my own barn, or as a haul-in) and I’ve never had a problem with this from the other side either.

What do you absolutely have to have in a boarding situation, regardless of the price of board?
I’ll echo EF’s “safe”! If a horse gets loose, they aren’t going to end up on a busy highway. They aren’t going to get caught up in barbed wire fencing. They aren’t going to get their hooves stuck between stall boards. They aren’t going to get caught up on nails that stick out.
Adequate feed for the price. If you’re charging me $300+, it better include as much hay as my horse needs. I hate these places that only include 2 flakes/meal with board and any extra hay is charged extra. My 1300lb TB’s board bill would double. If it’s a crazy hard keeper, then I’m not opposed to a negotiated deal between BO/owner to supplement with high-fat grain or something. I have done that in the past. But 2 flakes/meal?? Come on. My 14.1h Morgans can’t even be maintained on that.
I also need a place that will feed supplements that I pre-make in baggies (including extra grain that I purchase).
Semi-private or private turnout options for my old guys. Paddocks are fine, they just need to get out and don’t need some giant lush pastures.

What are worthwhile “extras”?
Depending on climate, heated tack room, indoor arena that may be heated but at least insulated. At least insulated, if not heated (to a degree, even if it’s just to slightly above freezing) barn. Indoor wash stall. More than one arena or area to ride so I can escape lessons or beginner riders. For me, a cross-country course or trails is also an awesome extra.
Options for paddock board. Small herds in paddocks with access to shelter & water tanks. That was the best boarding situation my horses ever had and I have yet to find another facility that does it.

How do you feel about barn hours, if reasonably set?
No issue with them, as long as they exclude emergencies and leaving for/returning from shows.

Is the physical appearance of the barn important to you? I’m not talking about safety or cleanliness, but just the “niceness” factor of the barn.
Absolutely not. My favorite barn was definitely not pretty by any means but was safe and functional.

What would you want/expect out of barn that charges 400 for full care board? 500? 600? 700+?
In my area, $400 gets you a nice show barn, though with some restrictions (like the hay thing I mentioned above). Anything above that better be fancy. When I lived in Chicago, my barn on the outskirts was a nice show barn, multiple trainers, excellent care, lots of extras, for $535.

What do you pay for board currently, and what services are provided to you?
Keep horses at home because can’t find a good boarding place around here. The average around here for boarding places that I would consider is $350-450. However, all of these have either unsafe stalls and/or bad arena footing and/or ridiculous rules about feed (e.g. hay limits) and/or requirements to show if you board there.

How much control over your horse’s diet, turnout, etc are you willing to hand over to the BO (reasonably speaking, here)?
Complete control? Absolutely none. But I am not opposed to working with the BO in order to find a happy middle. I require that I be informed of & agree to all changes before they are made. 99% of the time I’m like “awesome, thanks for letting me know.” But that 1% makes all the difference to me.

How do you feel about other sorts of animals being housed on the property separate from the equines? Chickens, goats, beef cattle, etc…
No issues. My horses have seen and boarded at places with all of the above. My only beef was I once boarded at a private place and the horse paddocks shared a fence line with a pig pen. The smell was horrible. But I have the cutest photos of my horses touching noses with the pigs.

As a boarder, I want a place with good care that isn’t all up in my business. I am very involved in my horses’ care, I show by myself, but I need a place to clean their stalls and feed them 2x a day and turn them out when I can’t get there.

This is all so excellent, keep it coming!

Element, I haven’t ever come across a barn that required use a certain farrier or vet…interesting, I would certainly never force anyone to use who I use. My policies on that will be pretty lax: if the person is good and you like them and your horse(s) do well with them, by all means.

Morgan, the thing about “BO control” was less about control (probably poor choice of words) and more about being open to suggestions and finding ways to make a happier horse, as you mentioned. I’ve seen some pretty ridiculous stuff from boarders, and as a BO I would want to pretty quickly squish some of it, else get rid of that boarder. As much as I want to help every horse, you can’t fix ignorant owners…Example: when I was a barn manager for a large boarding facility, we had a high level dressage horse who was forced onto stall rest for a torn hind suspensory ligament. The owner refused to allow us to cut back grain (in a safe way, of course) for this horse for fear he’d colic, lose weight, be sad at feeding time, anything she could think of. The horse was losing his MIND on almost 7 lbs of fortified grain/day and no turnout or work, to the point where he became dangerous to handle because he was so amped up. Owner refused to acknowledge this, and was asked to leave after a month of constant arguments. The next year, we had an issue with a boarder who insisted on changing her own wound dressings on her horse who had a very bad cut. Her first aid skills were marginal at best, and the horse ended up with bad cellulitis. We finally convinced her to allow us to do it, as both the BO and I had plenty of experience with wound care, but not until after the horse was already in a lot of pain.

Stuff like that could have been avoided if the owner had recognized that we were trying to help the horse, not insult their ego. I’d love for all my boarders to be open to suggestion as to ways to make their animals happier and healthier, and ultimately they decide. Most of the time it’s worked out, but I thought I’d pose the question anyway :slight_smile:

What do you absolutely have to have in a boarding situation, regardless of the price of board?
Safe facilities, safe pastures, good grass/hay, good feeding program, Indoor riding ring, and (right now due to my boy) ability for individual 24/7 turnout.

What are worthwhile “extras” (for example, a grooming/wash stall, heated tack room, blanket changes/dewormers/vet or farrier holding included in board, massage/alternative therapies, etc)?
Grooming/wash stalls with HOT water (don’t have right now but building), BATHROOM (currently doesn’t have one >.<)…

I haven’t boarded very long (six months). holding/blanket changes are extra cost at my place. Thankfully my farrier does evening hours with me and I worm myself (we de-worm based on fecal counts).

How do you feel about barn hours, if reasonably set?
I’m okay with them. Place I am at generally goes about 8am to 9pm (ish), but they are willing to let you come out early/be late as long as you let them know and close up everything due to shows.

Is the physical appearance of the barn important to you? I’m not talking about safety or cleanliness, but just the “niceness” factor of the barn. (And be honest! I sure think it is, but everyone’s opinion differs.)

While fancy is always appreciated… safe and clean are top priority in my book.

What would you want/expect out of barn that charges 400 for full care board? 500? 600? 700+?
400 and up? Complete full care. Blanket changes, turnout, feed schedule, worming program, the works.

What do you pay for board currently, and what services are provided to you?
I pay 375$ currently for 23/7 individual turnout (when the weather is good). Right now he’s at 12hours but they are building frences/extra pastures so things are a bit jumbled right now. Whatever grain I want, 24/7 hay, indoor and outdoor ring. Worming, holding, blankets, are all extra.

On the flip side of the above question, what services would you LIKE that aren’t provided?

Hot water and a bathroom would be lovely.

How much control over your horse’s diet, turnout, etc are you willing to hand over to the BO (reasonably speaking, here)?

Where I am at it’s a joint effort and I like it that way. BO’s will go off of what the owner says, but they also will make suggestions. They respect my boy’s feeding, and will even purchase your type of grain if it’s different. Some of the elderlies at our place have a list a mile long for what they get for feeding time! Their idea of turnout is “as much as possible” but will also respect the owner’s wishes. They just want everyone to be happy and healthy.

How do you feel about other sorts of animals being housed on the property separate from the equines? Chickens, goats, beef cattle, etc…
As long as it is clean, well maintained and controlled I’m happy with any. I’ve been at farms with chickens, pigs, calves, and goats and never had an issue with them.

Extras:

The place I am at has an amazing manure management program. They spread it and rotate their pastures which keeps the grass nice and a great fly program. Of course this time of year everything is going to be mostly mud and ice :lol: Extra manure she composts and sells by the bagfull (generally the stuff she gets out of the stalls/pastures, not the stuff with ringdust on it).

I am also eternally grateful for them. We had been at two barns in two months, and I alerted them that he may need individual pasturing and they said “No Problem”. To their word they’ve gone above and beyond making sure that he has individual turnout. They’re building some extra stalls (in the plans before we came there, just sped up the construction date) and he’s going to be in one that has 24/7 access to pasture all for himself. Spoiled brat :lol: They could have just said “it’s not going to work” but they all love him. I can never thank them enough.

What do you look for in a boarding barn? Answer: Nice, clean, well kept facility with good people taking care of horses who are knowledgable and who truly care for the horses.

What do you absolutely have to have in a boarding situation, regardless of the price of board? Answer: Horses well fed with good/safe/sufficient amount of feed & hay, safe fencing, owner or caretaker on site, good communication about care of the horse.

What are worthwhile “extras” (for example, a grooming/wash stall, heated tack room, blanket changes/dewormers/vet or farrier holding included in board, massage/alternative therapies, etc)? Answer: An indoor arena and trails on the property are very nice to have. I have that where I board now and really enjoy use of both. We also have a regular farrier schedule vs having to find your own farrier.

How do you feel about barn hours, if reasonably set? Answer: I have never had an issue with my barn’s hours and have been able to go anytime I have needed to outside their hours. Hours are 7am-9pm 7 days per week, including holidays.

Is the physical appearance of the barn important to you? I’m not talking about safety or cleanliness, but just the “niceness” factor of the barn. (And be honest! I sure think it is, but everyone’s opinion differs.) Answer: YES, I feel the physical appearance and care of the facility is a direct representation of the care provided to the animals as well.

What would you want/expect out of barn that charges 400 for full care board? 500? 600? 700+? Answer: Don’t know/don’t care. I would never pay that much because I don’t have to. I can find a very nice facility that takes wonderful care of my horses and offers feed, hay, turnout, stall at night, indoor arena and trails for $245 per month. You can take lessons with a trainer of your choice as long as you get permission ahead of time. I think people can enjoy horses for a lot less!

What do you pay for board currently, and what services are provided to you? Answer: See about- pasture board is $165, stall board is $245. Turnout 12 hrs per day in pastures of 3-4 with a lean-to, heated automatic waterers, nice indoor arena, large outdoor arena, trailer parking onsite for no additional cost, 80 acres of wooded trails, 2 roundpens and a sick bay area. Close to Tractor Supply. Facility is very nice, clean and well kept with owners on site. I would say my boarding situation is priceless…

On the flip side of the above question, what services would you LIKE that aren’t provided? Answer: None

How much control over your horse’s diet, turnout, etc are you willing to hand over to the BO (reasonably speaking, here)? Answer: She supplies sweet feed and hay and it’s included in board. I choose to feed Nutrena Safe Choice so I supply that and my own supplements. I don’t have control over the amount of hay but my horse has NEVER lost weight and is never hungry.

How do you feel about other sorts of animals being housed on the property separate from the equines? Chickens, goats, beef cattle, etc… Answer: We have goats, chickens and pigs on the property in another area. Big deal- who cares, it’s Wisconsin…

A huge plus to a great boarding facility is also the people who board there- people to ride and go to shows with and make it fun. That is the only other thing I can think of.

How exciting you’re planning on opening your own place! Good luck to you :slight_smile:
Here is how I feel about boarding barns:

The Must Haves
-The staff keeping an eye on the horses and letting you know if they have cuts, thrown shoes, aren’t eating normally, etc.
-Large, clean, well made stalls (currently my guy is in a 14 x 14), with adequate bedding and a stall floor with no holes.
-Safe turnout with proper fencing
-Proper feed and no skimping on hay
-Feed & water buckets cleaned when needed
-Personal tack lockers (I love, love, love this. Each one is padlocked so nobody can bother with your tack)
-Rings that drain properly and are raked daily

I also love that at my barn the grooms live on site.
I agree with Element that having a BO & staff that are 100% honest and communicate effectively is positively invaluable.

In regards to ring setup, I think it’s great to have multiple options if that’s feasible for you. There are 1 indoor, 2 outdoor rings and a dressage arena where I ride, which is excellent. Especially with lessons going on so frequently, I always have somewhere to ride and that means everything to me.

Worthwhile Additionals
-Grass pastures (rotations are great too to maintain this-that’s what the horses are on at my barn).
-A wash stall (bonus: hot water!)
-A lounge area (bonus: heated!)
-Other boarders to ride and school with for fun
-People interested in going to shows
-All horses can be put on the barn’s worming/farrier/vet schedule
-Gated property with passcode to enter “after hours”

Barn Hours
We have a locked front gate with a passcode to get in. The barn is open 9am-7pm for people who don’t own/board a horse there. I usually get there between 7-8pm to ride after work on the weekends and love being able to do so. The barn is never truly closed if you own a horse there and the BO is very flexible.

Physical Appearance
I would pay more for this (I know it certainly costs more to build a prettier barn). It’s more important to me though to have a very safe, trustworthy facility. Also, fancier barns tend to house people with horrible personalities in my experience. I’d rather take the homelier place with nicer, agreeable people who have the horses’ best interests at heart.

Price
Honestly, I would pay anywhere from $500-700 for quality full care. Currently I pay $550 for: turnout in a huge grassy field with a group, use of all riding rings and jumps, stalls cleaned daily, grooming when filthy and mud crusted, daily feed (grain & hay), blanketing, and having my horse on their worming/farrier/vet schedule, which includes him being held while all this is done.

Giving Up Control
I’m quite fine with this (so long as everyone is knowledgeable and has informed me of decisions or changes) and don’t micromanage my horse as an owner.

Other Animals
My barn has 2 dogs, which are very friendly and my horse loves. I love having dogs around. My barn also has a ton of cats, and although I’m not a “Cat Person” I enjoy having them around, as they take care of rodents.
Goats and cows would make for interesting barn company!
The last place my horse was at had cows in a separate pasture and he used to stand there watching them all the time! :stuck_out_tongue:

Overall,
I agree that the well being of the horses is the #1 most important thing.

The differences in what people are paying for what they are getting is very interesting. I knew there was a pretty large range depending on where you live: in the vast majority of Vermont, you CANNOT find a decent boarding barn with true full care board like most of you have mentioned for less than 500 a month. Go further south to the areas around the big show grounds, the Mass/NH boarder, etc., and you’ll pay 700 or more for a full care barn. 200-350 bucks around here may get you a run-in shed w/ basic daily care, but nothing else.

Hell, I boarded at a co-op for over 4 years, and the owner charged 200 just for stall rent/paddock space…you did all your own chores and provided everything yourself.

Safe and comfortable for my horse (good fences, no nails/screws popping out).

The property is maintained…doesn’t have to be shiny and show barn, but I want switches to work, gates to latch, water to flow.

Trailer Parking…safe and enough room.

Bathroom…portapotty or porcelain…I want a loo with a door that shuts/locks.

No kids, don’t want a kid barn.

No outside dogs.

BO who will answer the phone.

Safe/dry place for my farrier to shoe my guys.

Safe and comfortable for my horse (good fences, no nails/screws popping out).

The property is maintained…doesn’t have to be shiny and show barn, but I want switches to work, gates to latch, water to flow.

Trailer Parking…safe and enough room.

Bathroom…portapotty or porcelain…I want a loo with a door that shuts/locks.

No kids, don’t want a kid barn.

No outside dogs…owners dogs OK of course, if they’re behaved.

BO who will answer the phone.

Safe/dry place for my farrier to shoe my guys.

What do you absolutely have to have in a boarding situation, regardless of the price of board?
Safe, clean, airy stall assigned to my horse. Daily turnout, for at least 12 hours, and preferably available for 24 hours, weather permitting and shelter available. Quality hay & feed. Reliable, regular feeding schedules. Knowledgeable staff who will see my horse at least twice a day and be able to manage any emergencies until I get there. Wash stall or wash area with ample water. Secure clean & dry tack room. Trailer parking.
What are worthwhile “extras” (for example, a grooming/wash stall, heated tack room, blanket changes/dewormers/vet or farrier holding included in board, massage/alternative therapies, etc)?
Blanket changes, farrier/vet holding included or reasonably priced. Heat for a tack room would be wonderful, and indoor plumbing would certainly be nice.
How do you feel about barn hours, if reasonably set? I have no problem with reasonable barn hours. In fact, I’d prefer to know that people are not hanging around the barn at midnight, it’s hard to believe anything good could come of that.
Is the physical appearance of the barn important to you? I’m not talking about safety or cleanliness, but just the “niceness” factor of the barn. (And be honest! I sure think it is, but everyone’s opinion differs.)
Neat and clean is good, but I don’t care at all about flower boxes or other decorative touches. A little sitting area or picnic table is a nice bonus.
What would you want/expect out of barn that charges 400 for full care board? 500? 600? 700+?
$400: outdoor only, paddock/dry lot turnout, probably nothing heated. $500: maybe an indoor, grass turnout at least part of the year. $600 plus: Indoor, grass turnout, extras like blankets and holding for farrier included.
What do you pay for board currently, and what services are provided to you?
I’m in a rough board situation now. It’s $100 a month and we get a stall, dry lot turnout, electricity and water. Decent outdoor arena, but the owners do zero maintenance so it won’t be nice for long. We do everything ourselves: buy & deliver hay, grain & bedding, clean stalls, maintain water buckets etc. I’ve stayed because it has access to great trails, the barn itself is not bad, and my pony has the option of 24/7 turnout. But it has too many downsides, and I’m looking to move.
On the flip side of the above question, what services would you LIKE that aren’t provided?
I’m looking now for traditional full board services, I don’t want to be at the barn every single day…not unless it’s my own barn.
How much control over your horse’s diet, turnout, etc are you willing to hand over to the BO (reasonably speaking, here)? I ask because I have run into situations where a horse is a danger to himself or others in pasture situation, horse is constantly losing weight and owner doesn’t want to increase feed, horse got injured and owner was doing wound care but very poorly and inconsistently and horse suffered for it…situations where, in general, it would be very difficult for me as a barn owner and manager to not step in and say “we need to handle this differently, or you need to leave” sort of thing…
I don’t expect to turn over control, but I would respect the suggestions of a knowledgeable owner/manager and abide by reasonable rules.
How do you feel about other sorts of animals being housed on the property separate from the equines? Chickens, goats, beef cattle, etc… No problem. It’s a good opportunity for my pony to be exposed to other critters.

What do you absolutely have to have in a boarding situation, regardless of the price of board?
Safe, clean, airy stall assigned to my horse. Daily turnout, for at least 12 hours, and preferably available for 24 hours, weather permitting and shelter available. Quality hay & feed. Reliable, regular feeding schedules. Knowledgeable staff who will see my horse at least twice a day and be able to manage any emergencies until I get there. Wash stall or wash area with ample water. Secure clean & dry tack room. Trailer parking.
What are worthwhile “extras” (for example, a grooming/wash stall, heated tack room, blanket changes/dewormers/vet or farrier holding included in board, massage/alternative therapies, etc)?
Blanket changes, farrier/vet holding included or reasonably priced. Heat for a tack room would be wonderful, and indoor plumbing would certainly be nice.
How do you feel about barn hours, if reasonably set? I have no problem with reasonable barn hours. In fact, I’d prefer to know that people are not hanging around the barn at midnight, it’s hard to believe anything good could come of that.
Is the physical appearance of the barn important to you? I’m not talking about safety or cleanliness, but just the “niceness” factor of the barn. (And be honest! I sure think it is, but everyone’s opinion differs.)
Neat and clean is good, but I don’t care at all about flower boxes or other decorative touches. A little sitting area or picnic table is a nice bonus.
What would you want/expect out of barn that charges 400 for full care board? 500? 600? 700+?
$400: outdoor only, paddock/dry lot turnout, probably nothing heated. $500: maybe an indoor, grass turnout at least part of the year. $600 plus: Indoor, grass turnout, extras like blankets and holding for farrier included.
What do you pay for board currently, and what services are provided to you?
I’m in a rough board situation now. It’s $100 a month and we get a stall, dry lot turnout, electricity and water. Decent outdoor arena, but the owners do zero maintenance so it won’t be nice for long. We do everything ourselves: buy & deliver hay, grain & bedding, clean stalls, maintain water buckets etc. I’ve stayed because it has access to great trails, the barn itself is not bad, and my pony has the option of 24/7 turnout. But it has too many downsides, and I’m looking to move.
On the flip side of the above question, what services would you LIKE that aren’t provided?
I’m looking now for traditional full board services, I don’t want to be at the barn every single day…not unless it’s my own barn.
How much control over your horse’s diet, turnout, etc are you willing to hand over to the BO (reasonably speaking, here)? I ask because I have run into situations where a horse is a danger to himself or others in pasture situation, horse is constantly losing weight and owner doesn’t want to increase feed, horse got injured and owner was doing wound care but very poorly and inconsistently and horse suffered for it…situations where, in general, it would be very difficult for me as a barn owner and manager to not step in and say “we need to handle this differently, or you need to leave” sort of thing…
I don’t expect to turn over control, but I would respect the suggestions of a knowledgeable owner/manager and abide by reasonable rules.
How do you feel about other sorts of animals being housed on the property separate from the equines? Chickens, goats, beef cattle, etc… No problem. It’s a good opportunity for my pony to be exposed to other critters.

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What do you look for in a boarding barn?
Knowledgeable & honest caretakers, A LOT of turnout (24/7 with access to stall, or at least all day or all night turnout depending on season), plenty of good quality hay (ideally free choice hay), ability to have my horses on the feed of my choice, at least 3 grain feedings a day (ideally 4), good footing, etc.
I was very thankful to the last barn I kept my horses at for 2 years before moving them home; they did offer all of the above.

What do you absolutely have to have in a boarding situation, regardless of the price of board? See above.

What are worthwhile “extras” (for example, a grooming/wash stall, heated tack room, blanket changes/dewormers/vet or farrier holding included in board, massage/alternative therapies, etc)?
Hot/Cold wash stall, blanket changes if needed. I am always present for farrier/vet/etc. so don’t need someone else to handle these services. However, certainly would be nice in case of an emergency when care needs to be administered immediately.

How do you feel about barn hours, if reasonably set?
Back when I boarded my horses, I liked seeing hours from around
6:00am-ish to around 10:00pm-ish and was very careful to mind the hours. I absolutely could not board at barns with very limited hours. Of course I would expect full access in case of emergency or shows.


Is the physical appearance of the barn important to you? I’m not talking about safety or cleanliness, but just the “niceness” factor of the barn. (And be honest! I sure think it is, but everyone’s opinion differs.)

Short answer: Good care/feeding/turnout trumps the “niceness” factor any day. Long answer is below. :slight_smile:

What would you want/expect out of barn that charges 400 for full care board? 500? 600? 700+?
Here is my experience with 2 barns at either end of the price range you gave, and this also expands on the “niceness” factor: A beautiful barn is beautiful, however, the CARE, feeding, and turnout are of the utmost importance and will make me happily accept a run down, plain barn. I’ve boarded my horses at very fancy, gorgeous, huge show barns, and I’ve also boarded my horses at farms where the barn was a 100 years old and was nothing pretty to look at. What set them apart?? The fancy huge show barn fed very limited hay (of inconsistent quality) and had extremely limited turnout. The 100 year old run down barn had unlimited (high quality) hay, 12 to 24 hour turnout (whichever you preferred) , and excellent care by an attentive and knowledgeable manager. My horses looked amazing while living at the 100 year old run down barn and were very relaxed and happy. They were agitated and needed weight supplements at the fancy, gorgeous show barn. So based on my experience, I could care less what the barn looks like because It’s ALL about the quality of the care. The fancy, gorgeous show barn was almost 700 per month, per horse, and in addition to that, they would nickel and dime you for anything they could think of. The 100 year old run down barn with excellent care was 450 per month, per horse (no nickel and diming).
The beautiful show barn had an endlessly changing stream of feeders (working students & lesson students) who would make mistakes when feeding fairly regularly and often did not check for moldy hay or levels in water buckets. The 100 year old run down barn had the SAME person feeding nearly all feedings for the 2 years my horses were there. She made sure that anyone who fed in her absence know exactly what they were doing. In my mind, the board fee charged by these 2 particular barns should be reversed. :slight_smile:


What do you pay for board currently, and what services are provided to you?

The above answer probably answers that question. :slight_smile:
I am very thankful that I am now able to keep my horses at home.

On the flip side of the above question, what services would you LIKE that aren’t provided?
When I was boarding, the service I would have liked at the beautiful show barn would have been more consistent feeders, more turnout, higher quantity & quality of hay fed, and for the staff to have been valued more by the barn so that they stuck around longer. I like having staff care for my horses who have been around long enough to get to know my horses quirks, so that they are better able to determine asap if something is not quite right. At the 100 year old run down barn, it would have been nice to have amenities like a bathroom or a hot water wash stall, but honestly I was fine with not having those things because my horses were so happy and looked fantastic, and I felt that if anything was wrong with them, it would be noticed right away.

How much control over your horse’s diet, turnout, etc are you willing to hand over to the BO (reasonably speaking, here)?
Well… not a lot. That is why they are at home now! :slight_smile: That being said, I had a lot of trust in the manager who ran the last barn I boarded at (the 100 year old place) and she & I had like-minded philosophies as far as turnout/feeding. She made good decisions on my horses care, so I was comfortable with her having a fair amount of control over feeding and care, but she was very good about communicating & discussing changes with me. I think problems quickly arise when there is a large staff and information and care protocols do not stay consistent as they go down the chain of command.

How do you feel about other sorts of animals being housed on the property separate from the equines? Chickens, goats, beef cattle, etc…
I do not care at all as long as they are being well cared for.

Anything else anyone can think of would be so much appreciated! I have always felt that the horse’s happiness and health is the single, most important thing in a boarding situation, but sadly that has rarely been what I’ve found as a boarder…anyway, have at it![/QUOTE]
In my experience, it seems like many beautiful, fancy barns start out with the right intentions, but then they get so focused on their training, lessons, competitions, sales, (whatever), that the focus of the barn becomes profit and image and whatever it is they are promoting. The barns who remain true to focusing on the care, feeding, turnout, and happiness of the horses are very valuable to me.

What do you look for in a boarding barn?
Knowledgeable & honest caretakers, A LOT of turnout (24/7 with access to stall, or at least all day or all night turnout depending on season), plenty of good quality hay (ideally free choice hay), ability to have my horses on the feed of my choice, at least 3 grain feedings a day (ideally 4), good footing, ideally 12x12 or larger stalls (because my horses are big) and I LOVE dutch doors or the ability for my horses to hang their heads out of their stalls. I HATE dark stalls.
I was very thankful for the last barn I kept my horses at for 2 years before moving them home; they did offer all of the above.

What do you absolutely have to have in a boarding situation, regardless of the price of board?
See above.

What are worthwhile “extras” (for example, a grooming/wash stall, heated tack room, blanket changes/dewormers/vet or farrier holding included in board, massage/alternative therapies, etc)?
Hot/Cold wash stall, blanket changes if needed. I am always present for farrier/vet/etc. so don’t need someone else to handle these services. However, certainly would be nice in case of an emergency when care needs to be administered immediately.

How do you feel about barn hours, if reasonably set?
Back when I boarded my horses, I liked seeing hours from around
6:00am-ish to around 10:00pm-ish and was very careful to mind the hours. I could deal with 9:00pm closings, but much preferred 10:00pm. I absolutely could not board at barns with very limited hours. Of course I would expect full access in case of emergency or shows.

Is the physical appearance of the barn important to you? I’m not talking about safety or cleanliness, but just the “niceness” factor of the barn. (And be honest! I sure think it is, but everyone’s opinion differs.)
Short answer: Good care/feeding/turnout trumps the “niceness” factor any day. Long answer is below the next question.

What would you want/expect out of barn that charges 400 for full care board? 500? 600? 700+?
Here is my experience with 2 barns at either end of the price range you gave, and this also expands on the “niceness” factor: A beautiful barn is beautiful, however, the CARE, feeding, and turnout are of the utmost importance and will make me happily accept a run down, plain barn. I’ve boarded my horses at very fancy, gorgeous, huge show barns, and I’ve also boarded my horses at farms where the barn was a 100 years old and was nothing pretty to look at. What set them apart?? The fancy huge show barn fed very limited hay (of inconsistent quality) and had extremely limited turnout. The 100 year old run down barn had unlimited (high quality) hay, 12 to 24 hour turnout (whichever you preferred) , and excellent care by an attentive and knowledgeable manager. My horses looked amazing while living at the 100 year old run down barn and were very relaxed and happy. They were agitated and needed weight supplements at the fancy, gorgeous show barn. So based on my experience, I could care less what the barn looks like because It’s ALL about the quality of the care. The fancy, gorgeous show barn was almost 700 per month, per horse, and in addition to that, they would nickel and dime you for anything they could think of. The 100 year old run down barn with excellent care was 450 per month, per horse (no nickel and diming).
The beautiful show barn had an endlessly changing stream of feeders (working students & lesson students) who would make mistakes when feeding fairly regularly and often did not check for moldy hay or levels in water buckets. The 100 year old run down barn had the SAME person feeding nearly all feedings for the 2 years my horses were there. She made sure that anyone who fed in her absence know exactly what they were doing. In my mind, the board fee charged by these 2 particular barns should be reversed.

What do you pay for board currently, and what services are provided to you?
The above answer probably answers that question.
I am very thankful that I am now able to keep my horses at home.

On the flip side of the above question, what services would you LIKE that aren’t provided?
When I was boarding, the service I would have liked at the beautiful show barn would have been more consistent feeders, more turnout, higher quantity & quality of hay fed, and for the staff to have been valued more by the barn so that they stuck around longer! I like having staff care for my horses who have been around long enough to get to know my horses quirks, so that they are better able to determine asap if something is not quite right. At the 100 year old run down barn, it would have been nice to have amenities like a bathroom or a hot water wash stall, but honestly I was fine with not having those things because my horses were so happy and looked fantastic, and I felt confident that if anything was wrong with them, it would be noticed right away.

How much control over your horse’s diet, turnout, etc are you willing to hand over to the BO (reasonably speaking, here)?
Well… not a lot. That is why they are at home now! That being said, I had a lot of trust in the manager who ran the last barn I boarded at (the 100 year old place) and she & I had like-minded philosophies as far as turnout/feeding. She made good decisions on my horses care, so I was comfortable with her having a fair amount of control over feeding and care, but she was very good about communicating & discussing changes with me. I think problems quickly arise when there is a large staff and information and care protocols do not stay consistent as they go down the chain of command.

How do you feel about other sorts of animals being housed on the property separate from the equines? Chickens, goats, beef cattle, etc…
I do not care if they are housed on the property at all, as long as they are being well cared for.

Anything else anyone can think of would be so much appreciated! I have always felt that the horse’s happiness and health is the single, most important thing in a boarding situation, but sadly that has rarely been what I’ve found as a boarder…anyway, have at it!
In my experience, it seems like many beautiful, fancy barns start out with the right intentions, but then they get so focused on their training, lessons, competitions, sales, (whatever), that the focus of the barn becomes how to make more profit in all of these different areas, and how to manage & create an image for all of these areas, or whatever it is they are promoting. The barns who remain true to focusing on the care, feeding, turnout, and happiness of the horses (and make a profit while providing good care) are very valuable to me.

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The differences in what people are paying for what they are getting is very interesting. I knew there was a pretty large range depending on where you live: in the vast majority of Vermont, you CANNOT find a decent boarding barn with true full care board like most of you have mentioned for less than 500 a month. Go further south to the areas around the big show grounds, the Mass/NH boarder, etc., and you’ll pay 700 or more for a full care barn. 200-350 bucks around here may get you a run-in shed w/ basic daily care, but nothing else.

Hell, I boarded at a co-op for over 4 years, and the owner charged 200 just for stall rent/paddock space…you did all your own chores and provided everything yourself.[/QUOTE]

I consider myself lucky, and I love the Midwest! :wink:

Barn hours: when deciding on these, please consider: Not all jobs are 9-5, many healthcare workers may work until 7 pm, and on weekends. People who have only one horse may think 8 pm is late enough, folks who have 2 or 3 horses may think 10 pm is not late enough. My barn closes at 9 pm, I really wish it were 10 pm. I would not board anywhere that closes at 5 pm on weekends, or is closed on Monday.
Nice bonuses at a barn: gates on stalls so horses can hang out in the aisle, window stalls, walkout stalls. Stalls must not be dark.

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Barn hours: when deciding on these, please consider: Not all jobs are 9-5, many healthcare workers may work until 7 pm, and on weekends. People who have only one horse may think 8 pm is late enough, folks who have 2 or 3 horses may think 10 pm is not late enough. My barn closes at 9 pm, I really wish it were 10 pm. I would not board anywhere that closes at 5 pm on weekends, or is closed on Monday.[/QUOTE]

Indeed! I have never held a cut-and-dry 9-5 (horse jobs are never 9-5, alas…), so I appreciate the sentiment of flexible hours. Reasonable hours, in my mind, would be around 7am-9pm with no exclusions (i.e., I don’t close the barn on holidays or weekends), but I recognize the need for expanded hours depending on folk’s needs.