What does it mean to say that a horse is "confirmed"?

I agree that there is a distinction between a kind, tolerant horse that will take care of a beginning rider which I’ve always heard called a “packer” and a highly trained horse that a rider can learn from, which is what I mean when I say “schoolmaster.”

“Packer” is not meant to be disparaging in any way and some “schoolmasters” are also packers.

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I agree that there is a distinction between a kind, tolerant horse that will take care of a beginning rider which I’ve always heard called a “packer” and a highly trained horse that a rider can learn from, which is what I mean when I say “schoolmaster.”

“Packer” is not meant to be disparaging in any way and some “schoolmasters” are also packers.[/QUOTE]

Ah, but the term “packer” comes from hunter land. A hunter that is a “packer” will “pack” a dead beginner around a course or in the hunt field without reacting to the rider’s lack of skill and with minimal steering. The “packer” knows his job, but doesn’t necessarily have a high level of training.

A schoolmaster generally has a high level of training.

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Ah, but the term “packer” comes from hunter land. A hunter that is a “packer” will “pack” a dead beginner around a course or in the hunt field without reacting to the rider’s lack of skill and with minimal steering. The “packer” knows his job, but doesn’t necessarily have a high level of training.

A schoolmaster generally has a high level of training.[/QUOTE]

Never spent time in hunter land. I first heard the term packer in quarter horse land.

Imo confirmed means the horse is trained well enough in a movement that he does it correctly and consistently when asked (assumption is asked reasonably well by its rider) Which does not necessarily make them a school master that seems a bit different topic. Ads refer to specific confirmed movement to illustrate a certain level of training…confirmed at flying change, or tempis, a green horse it can mean confirmed at canter depart on correct lead .