What Does The Phrase "Doing FEI" Mean To You?

Since the advent of the FEI Young Horse, Children’s and Junior tests, I’ve heard only a couple of people on the web state they were “doing FEI” because they had shown at these levels. Now, the FEI 4 year old test is what, TRAINING LEVEL?!? and the Children’s test is about First. But who takes that seriously? (only the twinkies who made me waste the phone call about their “FEI level horse for sale”) The FEI 6 year old test and Junior tests are about 3rd level. I’ve got a certain amount of respect for a junior rider who can do third and also for the person who can train their own 6 year old to do third. However, this is not FEI. The Young Rider’s Test is the only one that is truly FEI Level. (about PSG)

If you can get on a horse you trained and do a series of 5 4-tempis, a passable canter pirouette, a real trot extension and a counter canter circle of 15 meters or less I figure you qualify as an FEI level rider, and the horse could be said to be schooling FEI. If you can get on a horse you didn’t train and reproduce this as well, I’d accept you were an FEI rider. (However, in my experience, riding a schoolmaster is far far easier than training the animal yourself from the ground up.)

Competition is only one way to prove your or the horse’s qualifications. I actually prefer to watch the performance myself, and that only requires a fine day and a nice ring, not necessarily at a show.

So I have a question. Why do people feel the need to control how other people describe their own riding?

If I want to say I’m doing FEI, I plan to do FEI, my horse will go to FEI for sure, etc., and you know I actually suck and my horse is a broken down old nag and I don’t have a trainer, is it really that important?

If I want to say I’m doing FEI, I plan to do FEI, my horse will go to FEI for sure, etc., and you know I actually suck and my horse is a broken down old nag and I don’t have a trainer, is it really that important?

Yes.
Or rather it would be if you were engaged in extracurricular activites with the board on false pretences.

If you’re simply telling tall tales on the internet involving fantasy piaffe and imaginary pirouettes you go right ahead. I’ll be over in the other arena getting in shape for Beijing.

[QUOTE=fiona;3091125]
Yes.
Or rather it would be if you were engaged in extracurricular activites with the board on false pretences.

If you’re simply telling tall tales on the internet involving fantasy piaffe and imaginary pirouettes you go right ahead. I’ll be over in the other arena getting in shape for Beijing.[/QUOTE]

That reminds me of something I read at The Litterbox. “I’m not actually a dressage rider. I just play one on the internet.” :lol:

See you in Beijing Fiona!

LOL, I was thinking more along the lines of those who I meet elsewhere, because the attitude seems to be rampant :wink:

I tend to be pretty self deprecating when it comes to my riding, but I did have someone challenge me when I called myself intermediate once. I just don’t see the need to be the level police :lol:

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If I want to say I’m doing FEI, I plan to do FEI, my horse will go to FEI for sure, etc., and you know I actually suck and my horse is a broken down old nag and I don’t have a trainer, is it really that important?[/QUOTE]

It’s not important it’s just dishonest and foolish.

well, and in the case of the twinkies who described their nice 6 year old as “showing FEI” because he was doing the 6 year old test with the trainer, was probably just foolish, not dishonest.

Many people live out a fantasy about themselves but its nice when that self concept has some relationship to the physical reality of their actual lives.

[QUOTE=grayarabpony;3091187]
It’s not important it’s just dishonest and foolish.[/QUOTE]

You know, for me, it goes beyond that. It’s kind of offensive. As someone who worked pretty hard to do well at lowly First level, I would never pretend to be an FEI rider or boast of any future FEI goals. People work very hard to get to that level. Maybe when I’m at Third, (if I ever get there) yes, then I might begin to think, not speak, about that. But where I am now, it would be ridiculous to go around bragging like that. Not a level policewoman by any means, just someone who’s honest about her abilities and possibilities.

what fei means to me

someone or horse has a proven carreer-- and competes at fei level all over the world
federation equesterian internationale

see how often the person competes away and is that perosn or horse on tv and recongnised
if not then they anit an fei person

you do have to have exception skills to get high scores though!

:winkgrin::winkgrin::D:D:lol::lol:

I got a 72 last time. Got a blue ribbon :wink:

I do see your point. I know a few FEI riders (real live ones, not on the internet ;)) and they are lovely riders and I do know they’ve worked hard to get there. I am sure I will have to work very hard with my big lug to get to training level.

pretty much sums up my sentiments too. :smiley:

Lessee…so, I can do canter pirouettes for a 9 with one of my guys, but his flying changes suck, but I could say we’re “doing FEI”, right?
I. think. not. :no:

Doing FEI not implies sleeping with upper level judges but also implies one can pull off any movement[s] PSG and above. I don’t know what competing has to do with anything. Some of us actually train dressage for the art of it and not points. Go figure.

WTF??:confused:

I can do a shoulder in on my 5yo-WHO KNEW I was an FEI rider! :lol: :lol: :lol:

I make different assumptions when I hear “doing FEI stuff” than when I hear “FEI rider” or “competing FEI”

I picture someone coming home from a clinic and saying, “We did FEI stuff” meaning maybe clinician introduced half steps or maybe they worked some canter zig zags or quarter pirouettes. Or maybe they got to ride a schooled horse in piaffe or passage.

I hear that phrase sort of synonymously with "whee! That was fun!"

[QUOTE=EqTrainer;3087552]
Curious. I hear this term bandied about…

“they are doing the FEI stuff”

frequently.

What does that mean to you?[/QUOTE]

It means the speaker has no idea what the hell they are talking about.

and you just smile and nod.

Wow, I never thought this question would inspire such a thread. Thank you everyone, for sharing your insights.

[QUOTE=goeslikestink;3091227]
what fei means to me
someone or horse has a proven carreer-- and competes at fei level all over the world
federation equesterian internationale

see how often the person competes away and is that perosn or horse on tv and recongnised
if not then they anit an fei person[/QUOTE]

Well, in this case, I don’t know ANYBODY who competes at FEI level in N. California :lol: