What is considered a "healthy" budget for a Dressage horse?

I know there are a few threads about horse shopping, the market and that.

I was just wondering what price point is considered a healthy and easy budget to horse shop? Obviously it depends on the goals.

I’m thinking more for the adult amateur who isn’t really looking to be competitive. And looking to school 3rd/4th level but very casually. Mind and soundness priority over fancy gaits. Just started under saddle something schooling 1st or 2nd. Either works.

What is the price range that you find this? I’m saving up and just curious what is considered a good budget. I know right now the market is high, hopefully will go down a bit.

$15k? $30k? $60k?

Are you looking for a horse you can school 1st and 2nd Level with? Or a 1st- or 2nd-level horse who can take you to that level, and beyond? What region are you in? Are you looking for any particular breed, or type? Warmblood, TB, Baroque, ???
I don’t know how “casual” a person can be and still expect to school 3rd or 4th Level …

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Age, soundness, 'the look" all change the answer. Also, where you live and your trainer’s involvement and honesty, come into play. An older horse who has maintenance issues, and who may know the movements, but is not confirmed --$25k. A good looking, good moving middle aged, sound and sane. add 100K for each item,and plan to pay $100,000, The horse you are looking for will probable be in the middle

@Rackonteur I meant anything from just started under saddle (90 days, simple w/t/c) to something schooling a little bit of 1st or 2nd. Doesn’t really matter to me, I’m used to green beans.

Any breed, in fact enjoy off breeds.

”‹”‹”‹”‹”‹”‹”‹By casual I mean not competitive if showing at all honesty. Just progressing horse and rider, even at home/clinics/lessons.

@Lord Helpus thinking more green bean than school master type. Probably an off breed.

I doubt my budget can go more than 15k at this time in my life.

I literally just want to play with my horse and improve myself as a rider and hopefully improve/develop the horse. I’ve known people to do this extremely cheaply from $500 to $10k. But of course those people are extremely good riders too!

If you dont need to be competitive in the show ring, then the budget is much lower. Any decently conformed horse can get to second level with decent training. They could also likely do some upper level movements (which ones depend upon their particular strengths). Actually I think getting to third and even fourth is more about the investment in training than quality of the horse if impressing judges is not a priority.

Now finding the horse with the combination of soundness, brain for an ammy, and future ability to collect and extend is difficult in any price bracket! Many of us have found horses that we have enjoyed learning dressage with on a low budget. My current horse was well below your budget (as a green 6yo registered off-breed) and is now Second Level-ish in spite of this ammy not having a lesson in nearly a year (thanks covid!)

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@MsM very good points and I agree about the investment in training/lessons being most important!

I took a green bean from very green (dragged me on lunge line, spooked and bucked me off BEFORE buying him) to a solidly 1st level, schooling some 2nd. I had to sell him but his new owners at least got changes on him. Then kid went to College.

I forgot to add I bought that guy for $3k.

Wonderful! So you know it can be done and at least some of how it is done! There will always be people with big incomes and “healthier” budgets. Find a horse you will love working with and never be concerned about humble beginnings. What sort appeals to you?

Sometimes I think people with bigger budgets just get to make bigger mistakes…:winkgrin:

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This is a hard ask. Most dressage riders aren’t out looking for horses that won’t be competitive, and most people with young prospects won’t advertise them to a discipline where they won’t be competitive. People like to score well and get complements at clinics, or at least have the potential to get medal scores if they ride well enough. There isn’t necessarily a market for capable, but not good.

Most people aren’t interested in putting the considerable time/effort (probably substantially more time/effort than needed with a horse that is naturally talented) into getting to 3rd/4th on a horse that won’t be competitive. It’s considerably cheaper and less time consuming to make a mediocre horse with an ammy-friendly brain into a local level hunter, and you’ll get more money for him there. On top of that, many people over-estimate and over-price potential.

That’s why this horse is a rare bird. If you are willing to make one, rather than buying something with training, you will have to gamble on something with a good brain and a decent enough canter that it might collect. I’d suggest something you can get on, because work ethic and willingness to try is the number one most important thing to learn the hard work. And as you know, sometimes gambles pay off and you get something nicer than you’d hoped. If you want something that’s a bit more of a known quantity - you have some options when you get to the $25k bracket.

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I don’t think horse shopping is ever easy in any budget lol. I had a friend shopping with 10x my budget, we are similar levels and goals and it wasn’t a walk in the park for them either. As budget increases, so do expectations.

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Any horse with decent conformation and 3 clear gaits should be able to get to Second with correct riding and training. Around here you could get an OTTB more than capable of training to Second for the low four figures.

On the other hand if you want a horse with a confirmed correct flying change with the strength and self-carriage appropriate to Third / Fourth, your budget would need to start at $40k around here, unless you are willing to look at something with past injury / soundness issues or a horse in its late teens.

”Healthy budget” can mean $10k or $100k depending where you are looking, what you want, and you’re talking to.

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@rulex you made me Lol because that’s so true.

@BigMama1 I put in another post more specifics. Looking for something more on the green side. I’m used to babies/young horses.

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@joiedevie99
”‹ I definitely have to be willing to put the work in. I agree that I want something started, temperament is so important to me.

I definitely will never have $25k to spend. But can make $15k work.
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The problem is in order to get the 3rd/4th level work the horse must have some degree of aptitude. Bad gaits and not suited for dressage does not equal sequential flying changes and extended trots. Even if they’re not “show ring correct” in the sense that they’d get an 8, they still need to be correct or you’re just looking for a horse to teach tricks to.

If you’re willing to deal with a tb you can get what you want for $15k.

”‹”‹if you’re not, even a 6 gaits horse who is sane, trainable and amateur friendly - I’d expect to bring $30k to the table to find that.

Then yes, your budget is doable if you are willing to start with something very young and make the horse yourself.

If you aren’t planning to show at 3rd level and above and are OK with a greenie you can definitely get something under $15k. I show an appy and he is unusually talented at dressage for his breed (he wasn’t supposed to be a dressage horse but when I realized he hated being in a ring with other horses I gave it a shot and he loves it). I paid $6500 for him as a yearling and have done all of his training myself under direction of an amazing trainer. He’s at 3rd level now and while he may never go GP he is showing us that he still has a lot more room for growth. So don’t be afraid to look at different breeds! People at the shows ALWAYS assume my appy is a warmblood cross and I love telling them he’s not!

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Maybe spread the word around with some eventing barns in your area…a “failed eventer” that prefers the sandbox to XC would be easily in your budget, have a bit of dressage training, and you can analyze the mind better. Will probably be an off breed, but that’s OK. I think this kind of horse is actually a pretty easy find if you shop outside “dressage” sale sites. A nice QH or draft cross would work.

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I’m pretty shocked at the responses honestly! And it’s depressing. Lol

”‹So those who are saying minimum $25k/30k, which I will never ever have to spend, my max that I can spend ever is $15k, what are your suggestions for me? Just find a lease instead? Win the lottery? Give up and do a different discipline? Western Dressage? I’m not being snarky, I’m truly interested in the advice on what someone like me should do.

I wonder if it’s a geographic thing too. I’m in the west and I know so many people who have definitely gotten to third or farther (some GP) on horses that were much cheaper. I’m talking QH, Mustang, Arabian, TB.

@Appy Mom that is AWESOME!!

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